NTID AS Degree

ClearSky · 06-30-2008, 05:28 AM

Are these programs from NTID easy? Are they real AS degrees? They are only for deaf students, right? So you'll be with deaf students only?

RIT - NTID - Prospective Students - Majors/Areas of Study - Associate Degree Programs

Why doesn't RIT have AS programs?

scottw · 06-30-2008, 06:03 PM

If they want to. They can take A.S Degree or more higher education.

***VamPyroX*** · 06-30-2008, 06:14 PM

I don't think RIT provides AAS degrees.

They do have an AAS degree program for hearing students... interpreting program.

As for whether it's easy or hard, that depends on how serious you take the work.

I've seen students flunk out of class because they skipped too many classes. A lot of classes in NTID grade on attendance.

A lot of RIT classes don't grade on attendance, but they might grade on other things that will require attendance to get good grades. For instance, they might do daily quizzes that counts as 10% to 20% of your grade... or have daily homework assignments. It varies.

I had a class where students would skip class except for the day of the tests. The professor got tired of seeing students skip classes. So, he started giving pop quizzes at the beginning of class. A lot of students heard about it and stopped skipping classes. Later, students would show up for class... then when they saw that no pop quiz was given at the beginning, they would leave early. The professor noticed those students doing that as well. So, he started giving pop quizzes near the end of class. I remember on class where I was sitting in the back of the room. I saw a few guys near me get up and leave. I then noticed the teacher watching them leave. As soon as they walked out the door, he had that unusual grin... and then gave everyone a pop quiz. Hehehe!

What did I get for that class? 102%!

ClearSky · 06-30-2008, 06:21 PM

What I meant is if they are (the link I gave) real and recognized as a normal Associate Degrees and not something that's easy because it's in the NTID program. I am not looking for easy work, no!

***VamPyroX*** · 06-30-2008, 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by ClearSky

What I meant is if they are (the link I gave) real and recognized as a normal Associate Degrees and not something that's easy because it's in the NTID program. I am not looking for easy work, no!

It depends on where you placed in your assessment tests.

If you didn't do well in your assessment tests, then you will have more work to do in order to get your AAS degree. If you did well, then you will have less work to do to get your AAS degree.

I've seen students who don't take the assessment tests seriously that they end up being placed on a very low level and can't qualify for AAS... only AOS. So, they have to work extra harder and extra longer just to get their AAS. I've seen some students who take 7 to 8 years just to get AOS and that's not even as good as the AAS degree, nor could you even transfer to RIT and get a BS degree.

I would suggest that you talk with the chairperson in each department to determine what work is given in each program so that you know what to expect.

shel90 · 06-30-2008, 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by VamPyroX

It depends on where you placed in your assessment tests.

If you didn't do well in your assessment tests, then you will have more work to do in order to get your AAS degree. If you did well, then you will have less work to do to get your AAS degree.

I've seen students who don't take the assessment tests seriously that they end up being placed on a very low level and can't qualify for AAS... only AOS. So, they have to work extra harder and extra longer just to get their AAS. I've seen some students who take 7 to 8 years just to get AOS and that's not even as good as the AAS degree, nor could you even transfer to RIT and get a BS degree.

I would suggest that you talk with the chairperson in each department to determine what work is given in each program so that you know what to expect.

Geez..that has to really suck! People need to take college seriously..it is their futures at sake! If they dont want to take it seriously, then dont bother going!

Tousi · 06-30-2008, 07:42 PM

Yeah, Shel, betcha anything the mortality rate is in the stratosphere, too!

ClearSky · 06-30-2008, 08:08 PM

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If you did well, then you will have less work to do to get your AAS degree.

So what I am asking is, does the AAS degree have a normal college coursework credit? Is the Associate degree at NTID considered a less than normal diploma? Is their program normal credit like any other colleges?

I don't think that I'll have to be tested because I already went to a community college. I already had English Comp 1,2,3,4. I couldn't even go into the Career Exploration at NTID because I have too many courses taken in like psychology, sociology, etc. I already took College Algebra, so I don't think that I'll be taking any remedial classes in order to do the normal college course work.

The disability office at the community college tested me on english and math. Are there other areas that NTID test you on?

Can you finish the AS degree on the link I gave in less than 2 years?

Boult · 06-30-2008, 11:51 PM

ClearSky,
NTID is one of 8 college of RIT and as NTID students graduate, they get degree from RIT.

see this: RIT - Programs of Study by college
CAST - Applied Science & Technology
CCIS - Computing & Information Sciences
CIAS - Imaging Arts & Sciences
CLA - Liberal Arts
COB - Business
COE - Engineering
COS - Science
NTID - Nat'l Technical Institute for the Deaf

The degree will say;
Rochester Institute of Technology
through the
--insert one of college above --
by the authority of the Board of Trustee and on the recommendation
blah blah....

so it is a RIT degree.. .

hence the reason we says NTID/RIT (NTID at RIT) not RIT/NTID.

Boult · 06-30-2008, 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by VamPyroX

I don't think RIT provides AAS degrees.

They do have an AAS degree program for hearing students... interpreting program.

Yes, they do... See my post above for the link.

ClearSky · 07-01-2008, 01:10 AM

Is the NTID program only for deaf students except for hearing interpreters?

How long do their program take? Can you finish in less than 2 years?

Boult · 07-01-2008, 01:16 AM

NTID was created for deaf and hard of hearing students... the reason they have interpreter program was to train hearing students to become interpreters.

You will have to check the program of study you are interested in... some are 2 or 3 years for AS

Some deaf or hard of hearing can enter other 7 college of RIT if you qualify and yes you will get support service ie: interpreter and notetakers or CART or whatever the support service provide for certain deptartment when you request for one.

ClearSky · 07-01-2008, 01:24 AM

Are the professors hearing or deaf or hard of hearing?

Boult · 07-01-2008, 01:28 AM

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Originally Posted by ClearSky

Are the professors hearing or deaf or hard of hearing?

either...

ClearSky · 07-01-2008, 01:52 AM

Have some students found NTID programs easy? What I mean is if they found it not challenging?

Why does Vampyrox say that he heard Gallaudet is easier than NTID? That's why I wonder if a student really learn the real thing to get a decent job.

***VamPyroX*** · 07-01-2008, 02:35 AM

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Originally Posted by shel90

Geez..that has to really suck! People need to take college seriously..it is their futures at sake! If they dont want to take it seriously, then dont bother going!

Yep! I've had to deal with this when working with students during my job with NTID.

***VamPyroX*** · 07-01-2008, 02:38 AM

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Originally Posted by ClearSky

So what I am asking is, does the AAS degree have a normal college coursework credit? Is the Associate degree at NTID considered a less than normal diploma? Is their program normal credit like any other colleges?

I don't think that I'll have to be tested because I already went to a community college. I already had English Comp 1,2,3,4. I couldn't even go into the Career Exploration at NTID because I have too many courses taken in like psychology, sociology, etc. I already took College Algebra, so I don't think that I'll be taking any remedial classes in order to do the normal college course work.

The disability office at the community college tested me on english and math. Are there other areas that NTID test you on?

Can you finish the AS degree on the link I gave in less than 2 years?

Hmm... I think you might still be tested even though you went to community college. I went to community college and they still tested me.

As for comparing the program between NTID and community colleges, it still depends on how you are placed in the program. If you are on the level, then your classes would be similar to classes offered in community college. If you weren't on the level, then you would be taking more classes to fulfill an equivalent course at community college.

Things could be different now than before. I'm just speaking from what I was told by several people in NTID.

***VamPyroX*** · 07-01-2008, 02:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Boult

Yes, they do... See my post above for the link.

Ah, that's new to me.

***VamPyroX*** · 07-01-2008, 02:39 AM

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Originally Posted by ClearSky

Is the NTID program only for deaf students except for hearing interpreters?

How long do their program take? Can you finish in less than 2 years?

It depends on the program. Some programs require co-op and some don't. If you've already completed some courses at another college, then you would have less work to do.

***VamPyroX*** · 07-01-2008, 02:43 AM

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Originally Posted by ClearSky

Have some students found NTID programs easy? What I mean is if they found it not challenging?

Why does Vampyrox say that he heard Gallaudet is easier than NTID? That's why I wonder if a student really learn the real thing to get a decent job.

It depends on the student.

I've never visited Gallaudet nor have I ever seen what their classwork is like.

I do have a friend who is a teacher at Gallaudet. One thing he told me was that half of his students think that there are 48 weeks in a year.

When I worked at NTID, I worked with students from time to time. I've always heard one of two things... They transferred from Gallaudet to NTID because Gallaudet was too easy or they will transfer from NTID to Gallaudet because NTID is too hard.

My opinion? It's a matter of how you do things in school. If you're going to party all the time and not take classes seriously, then it will be hard.

ClearSky · 07-01-2008, 03:26 AM

How does the Co-op program work? When do you take that? Can you do this while you go to college to shorten time? Also, do you have to stay in NY to take a Co-op program? If so, do they help you find a Co-op where you want to?

Boult · 07-01-2008, 10:07 AM

ClearSky, you have lots of question that we may not have answers to.. so you should ask the NTID admission rep. they do have AIM where you can im them the question...

see this page; RIT - NTID - Prospective Students - Admissions/Apply - Live Chat ask them the same question you have been asking us..

Reba · 07-01-2008, 10:21 AM

How is an Associate of Applied Science (AAS) degree or Associate of Occupational Studies (AOS) different from Associate of Science (AS) or Associate of Arts (AA) degrees? Are they still equivalent two-year degrees?

Reba · 07-01-2008, 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by VamPyroX

It depends on the student...

My opinion? It's a matter of how you do things in school. If you're going to party all the time and not take classes seriously, then it will be hard.

Two excellent points.

Boult · 07-01-2008, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Reba

How is an Associate of Applied Science (AAS) degree or Associate of Occupational Studies (AOS) different from Associate of Science (AS) or Associate of Arts (AA) degrees? Are they still equivalent two-year degrees?

AAS include liberal arts courses while AOS does not... Although AOS does require several courses to meet requirement like Humanities, Social Studies or any General Education courses...
see this program to see the difference between AAS and AOS (see those asterisked)
Digital Imaging and Publishing Technology

Some program are 2 or 3 for any associate programs in NTID in some program a third year are lighter courses (see the link for typical courses sequences)

06-30-2008, 05:28 AM	#1 (permalink)
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*VamPyroX* bloody phreak from hell Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Hell Posts: 27,844	I don't think RIT provides AAS degrees. They do have an AAS degree program for hearing students... interpreting program. As for whether it's easy or hard, that depends on how serious you take the work. I've seen students flunk out of class because they skipped too many classes. A lot of classes in NTID grade on attendance. A lot of RIT classes don't grade on attendance, but they might grade on other things that will require attendance to get good grades. For instance, they might do daily quizzes that counts as 10% to 20% of your grade... or have daily homework assignments. It varies. I had a class where students would skip class except for the day of the tests. The professor got tired of seeing students skip classes. So, he started giving pop quizzes at the beginning of class. A lot of students heard about it and stopped skipping classes. Later, students would show up for class... then when they saw that no pop quiz was given at the beginning, they would leave early. The professor noticed those students doing that as well. So, he started giving pop quizzes near the end of class. I remember on class where I was sitting in the back of the room. I saw a few guys near me get up and leave. I then noticed the teacher watching them leave. As soon as they walked out the door, he had that unusual grin... and then gave everyone a pop quiz. Hehehe! What did I get for that class? 102%! __________________ Check out my city... CLICK HERE! (If you already visited yesterday, visit again today!)

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06-30-2008, 06:03 PM	#2 (permalink)
scottw Registered User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Crestview, Florida Posts: 797	If they want to. They can take A.S Degree or more higher education.

06-30-2008, 06:21 PM	#4 (permalink)
ClearSky Registered User Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 1,082	What I meant is if they are (the link I gave) real and recognized as a normal Associate Degrees and not something that's easy because it's in the NTID program. I am not looking for easy work, no!

06-30-2008, 07:42 PM	#7 (permalink)
Tousi Registered User Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 8,236	Yeah, Shel, betcha anything the mortality rate is in the stratosphere, too!

07-01-2008, 01:10 AM	#11 (permalink)
ClearSky Registered User Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 1,082	Is the NTID program only for deaf students except for hearing interpreters? How long do their program take? Can you finish in less than 2 years?

07-01-2008, 01:24 AM	#13 (permalink)
ClearSky Registered User Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 1,082	Are the professors hearing or deaf or hard of hearing?

07-01-2008, 01:52 AM	#15 (permalink)
ClearSky Registered User Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 1,082	Have some students found NTID programs easy? What I mean is if they found it not challenging? Why does Vampyrox say that he heard Gallaudet is easier than NTID? That's why I wonder if a student really learn the real thing to get a decent job.

07-01-2008, 03:26 AM	#21 (permalink)
ClearSky Registered User Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 1,082	How does the Co-op program work? When do you take that? Can you do this while you go to college to shorten time? Also, do you have to stay in NY to take a Co-op program? If so, do they help you find a Co-op where you want to?

07-01-2008, 10:21 AM	#23 (permalink)
Reba Premium Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 17,237	How is an Associate of Applied Science (AAS) degree or Associate of Occupational Studies (AOS) different from Associate of Science (AS) or Associate of Arts (AA) degrees? Are they still equivalent two-year degrees?