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NTID ponders to remove the name of AGB from the campus
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What s your take on this situation? I m curious.
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I'm an alumni of RIT/NTID back in 70's. Was was the name of building before changed to Alexander G. Bell Hall?
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Good question. I just enrolled NTID last fall so I have no idea. I believe Vamprox just graduated last yr. So he should have answer.
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So you think the name of AGB should be removed from any deaf colleges or schools since AGB believed that deaf people have no value in this society and deaf people should eliminated (eugenics) from gene pool?
Or you re in favor that he should be remain as "hero" in deaf community since he fought so hard to keep oralism to thrive and bec of him, oralism prevailed?
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Gee... AGB died years ago. Just because an organization does this doesn't mean we should blame AGB.
What if I set up an organization and named it "LBJ". Then, I start doing anti-deaf stuff. Does that mean that they should rename LBJ?
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AGBell had no respect for deaf people and their rights so yes, remove his name. It would be like having a plague with Hilter's name on a Jewish temple. It wouldnt make sense.
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so why should we honor his tainted name? I know for the sure I am not only one person who feels this way. Yup both of them are wacky.
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From what I learned about AGB, he was NOT a hero. The name should be REMOVE.
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Yup. He is Satan and I hope he rots in hell. We gotta thank Gallaudet (and NTID) for preserving ASL during dark times in deaf history (1880-1960),
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It's up to the NTID Community, I have no say what goes and what stays.
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remove plague must go..
Doesn't make sense nowadays they are ASL why plague says.. Oral only and not allowed Sign language people marry to oral.. that heck stupid plague on it agbell.. Agbell must remove it.
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And we could also add a bit of information regarding his flawed philosophy of eugenics as applied to inherited forms of deafness.
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The person who wrote the letter in first post does not understand the reasoning behind the naming of residence halls... see AGBell/Tower C Mania -- found in blank and I hope you and others understand the reasoning behind the naming of the hall. It was dedicated by a relative of AGB. There is already a balance on NTID campus. There is no need to go biased on one side. NTID already have speech therapy, CI supports, ASL etc etc... NTID caters to all walk of life with hearing loss regardless of communication modes.
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Years ago, a lot of people thought that deaf people couldn't do anything. Do we look at those people and degrade them or protest them in every manner possible? No. We do look back and laugh... while applauding ourselves today for where we are. There's no need to suddenly attack someone today for something that happened years ago. NTID was founded 35 years ago. Why wait 35 years to say something today?
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“Only six years before his death, Alexander Graham Bell looked back over his amazing life and wrote, ‘Recognition of my work for and interest in the education of the deaf has always been more pleasing to me than even recognition of my work with the telephone.’ A brilliant and innovative teacher of the deaf, Bell dedicated a great portion of his life to help deaf children develop their potential for listening, speaking, and lip-reading. Today, NTID emulates the ideals of which Alexander Graham worked.” Years ago, people thought that deaf people couldn't communicate... period. Just because he dedicated his life to helping deaf people listen, speak, and lipread doesn't mean that he was oral-only. He was simply trying to prove that any deaf person has potential and can do anything.
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Why was he not a hero?
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Oh okay I know Tower C. It was two floor dorm, across from NTID Academy. Thanks for answer my question.
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I'm all for renaming the Bell building at NTID. I've always thought that his name didn't belong on a signing campus. The building should have been named after a person who did a lot for the Deaf Culture.
A partial list comes to mind: Hearing: Stokes, Lane Deaf: Paddy Lane, Bernard Bragg, Dummy Hoy, Deaf Smith, Larent Clerc.. etc..
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Hell, AGB organization was inspired by man himself and this organization is well known for ridiculing ASL and claimed Oral is the only one effective method for deaf people.
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