Teaching Pre Schoolers ASL - Page 4

loml · 02-15-2009, 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Babyblue

Do Spanish speaking teachers speak spanish all the time with English speaking pre schoolers or toddlers? In order to teach them spanish?

Good point Babyblue.

I guess it comes done to what are the intended outcomes? Are the familes looking for the English speaking child to learn a few spanish words because it is implied that it helps them with spoken English?

*dunno*

loml · 02-15-2009, 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Babyblue

Again you are patronizing how I am teaching my class. If you don't like the fact that I call it teaching them ASL then go for it. What ever floats your boat.

Babyblue - I am attempting to understand how you are teaching your class with the information that you are providing.

Babyblue · 02-15-2009, 06:17 PM

Well Spanish is spoken and ASL is not.

So kids have the ability to learn signs and such before they will learn spoken words. So I can collaborate that with spoken language.

spoken language with another spoken language will not help a child to learn speak certain words.

ASL does.

Babyblue · 02-15-2009, 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by loml

Babyblue - I am attempting to understand how you are teaching your class with the information that you are providing.

You are not attempting to understand.

You are attempting to say I am not teaching these kids ASL.

When you claim that you are you are just patronizing my methods because I do not use the same method as you do.

faire_jour · 02-15-2009, 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Babyblue

You are not attempting to understand.

You are attempting to say I am not teaching these kids ASL.

When you claim that you are you are just patronizing my methods because I do not use the same method as you do.

I want to understand. That is why I asked.

loml · 02-15-2009, 06:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Babyblue

Well Spanish is spoken and ASL is not.

So kids have the ability to learn signs and such before they will learn spoken words. So I can collaborate that with spoken language.

spoken language with another spoken language will not help a child to learn speak certain words.

ASL does.

Babyblue - I think some ASL signs used with hearing children is a great idea! How can you state with certainty that teaching some words from ASL to hearing children, from hearing familes, in a hearing world, helps them to preform the complicated skill of speaking that signed word?

Babyblue · 02-15-2009, 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by faire_jour

I want to understand. That is why I asked.

Small children communicate with their hands before they even learn to speak. For an example. They will point at what they want, they will hold their hands up to be picked up, They will wave, they do all sort of things with their hands. These are hearing babies.

I am empathizing on using that to help them to learn to speak. Using ASL.

loml · 02-15-2009, 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Babyblue

You are not attempting to understand.

You are attempting to say I am not teaching these kids ASL.

When you claim that you are you are just patronizing my methods because I do not use the same method as you do.

Babyblue - I am sorry if you think that I am patronizing you. That certainly is not my intention.

I was taught by the Deaf community that ASL should only be taught in it's purest form, through immersion. They in fact did not appreciate or condone having ASL taken out of context and feel quite strongly about it. Hopefully this provides you with a sense of where I am coming from.

Babyblue · 02-15-2009, 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by loml

Babyblue - I am sorry if you think that I am patronizing you. That certainly is not my intention.

I was taught by the Deaf community that ASL should only be taught in it's purest form, through immersion. They in fact did not appreciate or condone having ASL taken out of context and feel quite strongly about it. Hopefully this provides you with a sense of where I am coming from.

Funny, coming from someone that uses a entirely different method.

Babyblue · 02-15-2009, 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by loml

Babyblue - I am sorry if you think that I am patronizing you. That certainly is not my intention.

I was taught by the Deaf community that ASL should only be taught in it's purest form, through immersion. They in fact did not appreciate or condone having ASL taken out of context and feel quite strongly about it. Hopefully this provides you with a sense of where I am coming from.

With the above post stated. How many D/deaf people disagree with what I am doing here???

Babyblue · 02-15-2009, 06:57 PM

I do not feel like I am doing anything wrong. Read through my thread. No one has claimed that I was being disrespectful to the D/deaf community. Throughout this thread so far only one person claimed it was disrespectful of me to teach a hearing child to use ASL signs.

So I do not understand where you are coming from loml. If anyone is Mocking ASL it is you. Not me.

loml · 02-15-2009, 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Babyblue

Funny, coming from someone that uses a entirely different method.

Babyblue - These were the teachings that I had the opportunity of recieving from the Deaf community.

faire_jour · 02-15-2009, 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Babyblue

I do not feel like I am doing anything wrong. Read through my thread. No one has claimed that I was being disrespectful to the D/deaf community. Throughout this thread so far only one person claimed it was disrespectful of me to teach a hearing child to use ASL signs.

So I do not understand where you are coming from loml. If anyone is Mocking ASL it is you. Not me.

Can you please answer my question?

***naisho*** · 02-15-2009, 07:09 PM

What on earth is going on here?

I come in and read the last 10 posts and it is like some kind of a witch hunt going on.

Leave Babyblue alone, if she wasn't entitled to teach ASL she'd have parents or the school board complaining to her. It shouldn't be your business to judge off the internet, flat off that...
If you really want to complain about the way she teaches, go find out and go complain to their school board.

Babyblue · 02-15-2009, 07:12 PM

Sign Language - Baby Signing - Sign Language for Babies

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I do this on my own. But here is an example of why I am doing this.

faire_jour · 02-15-2009, 07:13 PM

Dude, I was just curious if she had like, "signing time" like as a center, or if she sim-coms or sits and teachs sign, or uses songs with signs. It is just a question, not a witch hunt.

Babyblue · 02-15-2009, 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by faire_jour

Can you please answer my question?

Seek within this post, and you will find...

loml · 02-15-2009, 07:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Babyblue

I do not feel like I am doing anything wrong. Read through my thread. No one has claimed that I was being disrespectful to the D/deaf community. Throughout this thread so far only one person claimed it was disrespectful of me to teach a hearing child to use ASL signs.

So I do not understand where you are coming from loml. If anyone is Mocking ASL it is you. Not me.

Babyblue - I do not believe that taking ASL, basically out of its true form, and saying that this is teaching ASL, and telling parents that their children are learning ASL, is honouring the language of ASL, based on my teachings from the Deaf community.

**Jiro** · 02-15-2009, 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by loml

Babyblue - I do not believe that taking ASL, basically out of its true form, and saying that this is teaching ASL, and telling parents that their children are learning ASL, is honouring the language of ASL, based on my teachings from the Deaf community.

again - read the post above -

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Originally Posted by naisho

Leave Babyblue alone, if she wasn't entitled to teach ASL she'd have parents or the school board complaining to her. It shouldn't be your business to judge off the internet, flat off that...

What you're asking for is UNREALISTIC. Do you think ALL teachers in USA teach the same subjects the same thing? Not all English teachers write the same style in its "purest" form.

loml · 02-15-2009, 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Babyblue

Sign Language - Baby Signing - Sign Language for Babies

Sign2Me.com | Signing In Childcare

I do this on my own. But here is an example of why I am doing this.

Babyblue- As I said in earlier post, I think what you are doing is awesome. I simply do not agree with the phrase "teaching hearing children ASL", when from my prespective, it is really sign supported spoken English.

loml · 02-15-2009, 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Jiro

again - read the post above -

What you're asking for is UNREALISTIC. Do you think ALL teachers in USA teach the same subjects the same thing? Not all English teachers write the same style in its "purest" form.

Jiro - Are you in fact saying that the expectations of the Deaf community in my area and the teachers therein are UNREALISTIC?

Babyblue · 02-15-2009, 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by loml

Babyblue- As I said in earlier post, I think what you are doing is awesome. I simply do not agree with the phrase "teaching hearing children ASL", when from my prespective, it is really sign supported spoken English.

If you would truly sit and read the links I provided it will state it.

**Jiro** · 02-15-2009, 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by loml

Jiro - Are you in fact saying that the expectations of the Deaf community and the teachers therein are UNREALISTIC?

are you saying ALL teachers must teach ASL in "its purest form"?

Babyblue · 02-15-2009, 07:35 PM

Benefits of Baby Sign Language - Infant Signing Communication Development

loml · 02-15-2009, 07:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jiro

are you saying ALL teachers must teach ASL in "its purest form"?

Jiro - Is this what you a expecting me to consider as your answer to my question:

Are you in fact saying that the expectations of the Deaf community in my area and the teachers therein are UNREALISTIC?

**Jiro** · 02-15-2009, 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by loml

Jiro - Is this what you a expecting me to consider as your answer to my question:

Are you in fact saying that the expectations of the Deaf community in my area and the teachers therein are UNREALISTIC?

I answered that question already. Look up above at post #109 if you didn't get the hint.

loml · 02-15-2009, 07:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jiro

I answered that question already. Look up above at post #109 if you didn't get the hint.

Jiro - A simply yes or no would have sufficed.

These are not expectations that I have created, they are those of the Deaf community here.

**Jiro** · 02-15-2009, 07:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by loml

Jiro - A simply yes or no would have sufficed.

These are not expectations that I have created, they are those of the Deaf community here.

Can I ask a question now? are you saying ALL teachers must teach ASL in "its purest form"?

Babyblue · 02-15-2009, 07:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by naisho

What on earth is going on here?

I come in and read the last 10 posts and it is like some kind of a witch hunt going on.

Leave Babyblue alone, if she wasn't entitled to teach ASL she'd have parents or the school board complaining to her. It shouldn't be your business to judge off the internet, flat off that...
If you really want to complain about the way she teaches, go find out and go complain to their school board.

I have had no complaints yet.

Not from the parents, teachers, or anyone yet that I am affiliated with at the preschool. The other teachers are doing it as well.

loml · 02-15-2009, 07:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jiro

Can I ask a question now? are you saying ALL teachers must teach ASL in "its purest form"?

Jiro - First let's agree on a defintion of purest form shall we.

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02-15-2009, 06:17 PM	#93 (permalink)
Babyblue Registered User Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Florida Posts: 11,998	Well Spanish is spoken and ASL is not. So kids have the ability to learn signs and such before they will learn spoken words. So I can collaborate that with spoken language. spoken language with another spoken language will not help a child to learn speak certain words. ASL does.

02-15-2009, 06:57 PM	#101 (permalink)
Babyblue Registered User Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Florida Posts: 11,998	I do not feel like I am doing anything wrong. Read through my thread. No one has claimed that I was being disrespectful to the D/deaf community. Throughout this thread so far only one person claimed it was disrespectful of me to teach a hearing child to use ASL signs. So I do not understand where you are coming from loml. If anyone is Mocking ASL it is you. Not me.

02-15-2009, 07:12 PM	#105 (permalink)
Babyblue Registered User Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Florida Posts: 11,998	Sign Language - Baby Signing - Sign Language for Babies Sign2Me.com \| Signing In Childcare I do this on my own. But here is an example of why I am doing this.

02-15-2009, 07:13 PM	#106 (permalink)
faire_jour Banned Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 7,202	Dude, I was just curious if she had like, "signing time" like as a center, or if she sim-coms or sits and teachs sign, or uses songs with signs. It is just a question, not a witch hunt.

02-15-2009, 07:35 PM	#114 (permalink)
Babyblue Registered User Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Florida Posts: 11,998	Benefits of Baby Sign Language - Infant Signing Communication Development