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***VamPyroX*** · 12-03-2007, 10:25 PM

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authentic · 12-03-2007, 11:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VamPyroX

Need help cheating in school and can't think of anything new?

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What if teacher ban students to bring any food (including drink) to the class. That student got F- in the class . . . fo' sho!

***VamPyroX*** · 12-05-2007, 02:02 AM

There are other ways.

A lot of college classes allow drinks in the classroom.

I have a friend who did something similar.

Instead of printing out a new label, he simply peeled off the original label... wrote on the inside... then taped it back on. All he has to do is hold the bottle up at the right angle and read the inside as the answers are revealed. All he had to do was make sure he didn't drink when he acted like he was drinking it.

Interpretrator · 12-05-2007, 09:35 PM

These students must have some butt-stupid teachers.

By the way, there are some students in my class (I teach all deaf students) who are at risk of being kicked out of school because of cheating. They will have to go through a whole academic hearing and everything. Cheating is not cool, it's not fun, it's a great way to get yourself a lifelong job at the gas station instead of improving your future.

Sorry to be a wet blanket here but as a teacher I couldn't let this go, especially seeing how much it completely sucks that these students cheated. (Not in my class.)

***VamPyroX*** · 12-06-2007, 01:12 AM

I had some college professors who allowed students to use their homework, notes, and books on the tests, quizzes, and exams.

One professor actually said, "In the real world, your boss isn't going to walk up to you and say... 'Okay, I want you to solve this problem right now on the spot.' and stand there while you do it. He will give you a project and expect you to do it yourself on your own time or with a team. So, what will you be doing? You'll be reviewing the problem on the computer or from a book that your company provides you. Therefore, I see no point of giving you a test and make you do everything from memory. That's why I am allowing you to use your notes, homework, and books. Of course, you can't use a friend or a classmate."

Interpretrator · 12-06-2007, 03:59 AM

What one teacher believes is irrelevant: if you break the rules set by a teacher who doesn't have that perspective, then you are cheating.

Also: I'm not preparing my students for the real world. I'm preparing them for an academic career. Which cheating can put an end to.

Reba · 12-06-2007, 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Interpretrator

These students must have some butt-stupid teachers.

By the way, there are some students in my class (I teach all deaf students) who are at risk of being kicked out of school because of cheating. They will have to go through a whole academic hearing and everything. Cheating is not cool, it's not fun, it's a great way to get yourself a lifelong job at the gas station instead of improving your future.

Sorry to be a wet blanket here but as a teacher I couldn't let this go, especially seeing how much it completely sucks that these students cheated. (Not in my class.)

Also, trite as it sounds, the cheater still hurts himself the most.

Do you ever wonder how students can put so much effort and ingenuity into cheating but they can't study for a test?

What ever happened to the self satisfaction of acquiring knowledge and skills, and earning a grade?

shel90 · 12-06-2007, 11:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Interpretrator

These students must have some butt-stupid teachers.

By the way, there are some students in my class (I teach all deaf students) who are at risk of being kicked out of school because of cheating. They will have to go through a whole academic hearing and everything. Cheating is not cool, it's not fun, it's a great way to get yourself a lifelong job at the gas station instead of improving your future.

Sorry to be a wet blanket here but as a teacher I couldn't let this go, especially seeing how much it completely sucks that these students cheated. (Not in my class.)

I agree...if my students cheat, it becomes personal to me cuz it shows that they are not really trying to learn the material and gain knowledge. As a college student, I have had a few opportunities to cheat but I refused to take them cuz it is me that I will have to live with.

Cheating may get you the grades you desire to get (if u dont get caught) but it sure wont help you prepare for the real world or to be successful at your chosen career.

Reba · 12-06-2007, 11:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VamPyroX

I had some college professors who allowed students to use their homework, notes, and books on the tests, quizzes, and exams.

One professor actually said, "In the real world, your boss isn't going to walk up to you and say... 'Okay, I want you to solve this problem right now on the spot.' and stand there while you do it. He will give you a project and expect you to do it yourself on your own time or with a team. So, what will you be doing? You'll be reviewing the problem on the computer or from a book that your company provides you. Therefore, I see no point of giving you a test and make you do everything from memory. That's why I am allowing you to use your notes, homework, and books. Of course, you can't use a friend or a classmate."

There are some subjects that are tested "open book", and that's not cheating because that's the way they are set up. But even in your example, if one student helps another, that IS cheating. Even open-book examinations have rules that must be observed.

There are some instructors who use open-book exams at our college but they also explain to the students that their open-book exams are also twice as long as the standard Scantron multiple choice exams, and more stringently evaluated.

I hope your instructor also emphasized that in the real world, employers don't tolerate cheating and stealing in their businesses.

BTW, there ARE real world bosses who will come up to you and say, "I want this solved, and I want it done yesterday!" And bosses don't accept as many excuses as a teacher might.

No make-up exams or bonus points in the real work world.

I'm not picking on you, Vampy; just giving you another "real world" perspective.

Kaitin · 12-06-2007, 12:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reba

Also, trite as it sounds, the cheater still hurts himself the most.

Do you ever wonder how students can put so much effort and ingenuity into cheating but they can't study for a test?

What ever happened to the self satisfaction of acquiring knowledge and skills, and earning a grade?

A friend wanted to cheat from in Physics by giving him old tests. I talked with him about the problems (mechanics - bodies in motion etc) and know he understands nothing. I explained that he needs to learn the information and offered to help. He refused and said he didn't want to to know Physics, just get a good grade because Physics was required for him.

Forget it.

Most students I know work very hard at school, but probably there are some who cheat. I agree, Reba - cheaters hurt themselves. You don't learn, worry about cheating, are unfair to other students and teacher, maybe you have a good grade but really you get nothing.

jillio · 12-06-2007, 01:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Interpretrator

These students must have some butt-stupid teachers.

By the way, there are some students in my class (I teach all deaf students) who are at risk of being kicked out of school because of cheating. They will have to go through a whole academic hearing and everything. Cheating is not cool, it's not fun, it's a great way to get yourself a lifelong job at the gas station instead of improving your future.

Sorry to be a wet blanket here but as a teacher I couldn't let this go, especially seeing how much it completely sucks that these students cheated. (Not in my class.)

Agreed. And when a student cheats their way through school, they only cheat themselves of an education. Sooner or later, it will become clear that they cheated their way through, when on the job, they do not have the knowledge and skills they are supposed to have.

jillio · 12-06-2007, 01:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reba

There are some subjects that are tested "open book", and that's not cheating because that's the way they are set up. But even in your example, if one student helps another, that IS cheating. Even open-book examinations have rules that must be observed.

There are some instructors who use open-book exams at our college but they also explain to the students that their open-book exams are also twice as long as the standard Scantron multiple choice exams, and more stringently evaluated.

I hope your instructor also emphasized that in the real world, employers don't tolerate cheating and stealing in their businesses.

BTW, there ARE real world bosses who will come up to you and say, "I want this solved, and I want it done yesterday!" And bosses don't accept as many excuses as a teacher might.

No make-up exams or bonus points in the real work world.

I'm not picking on you, Vampy; just giving you another "real world" perspective.

(And I'm not picking on you either, Vampy!)

Interpretrator · 12-06-2007, 06:19 PM

I hate to see my students cheat, doesn't matter if it's in my class or another one. Especially when it's a student who is really good, and if she only worked harder she could do so well at whatever she wanted. That is really a shame. Also, it reinforces hearing stereotypes of deaf students. Does that mean every deaf student has to be a role model? No, but sometimes with what life deals you, you just have to work harder than other people to get what you want.

That last line is out of my personal experience, by the way. I'm not wagging my finger at you, I just seriously believe that. And it sucks but the benefits are incredible.

12-03-2007, 10:25 PM	#1 (permalink)
*VamPyroX* bloody phreak from hell Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Hell Posts: 27,844	Cheat Trick Need help cheating in school and can't think of anything new? Try this... Cheat At School Professionally Video __________________ Check out my city... CLICK HERE! (If you already visited yesterday, visit again today!)

12-05-2007, 02:02 AM	#3 (permalink)
*VamPyroX* bloody phreak from hell Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Hell Posts: 27,844	There are other ways. A lot of college classes allow drinks in the classroom. I have a friend who did something similar. Instead of printing out a new label, he simply peeled off the original label... wrote on the inside... then taped it back on. All he has to do is hold the bottle up at the right angle and read the inside as the answers are revealed. All he had to do was make sure he didn't drink when he acted like he was drinking it. __________________ Check out my city... CLICK HERE! (If you already visited yesterday, visit again today!)

12-06-2007, 01:12 AM	#5 (permalink)
*VamPyroX* bloody phreak from hell Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Hell Posts: 27,844	I had some college professors who allowed students to use their homework, notes, and books on the tests, quizzes, and exams. One professor actually said, "In the real world, your boss isn't going to walk up to you and say... 'Okay, I want you to solve this problem right now on the spot.' and stand there while you do it. He will give you a project and expect you to do it yourself on your own time or with a team. So, what will you be doing? You'll be reviewing the problem on the computer or from a book that your company provides you. Therefore, I see no point of giving you a test and make you do everything from memory. That's why I am allowing you to use your notes, homework, and books. Of course, you can't use a friend or a classmate." __________________ Check out my city... CLICK HERE! (If you already visited yesterday, visit again today!)

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12-05-2007, 09:35 PM	#4 (permalink)
Interpretrator Crime fighter Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,425	These students must have some butt-stupid teachers. By the way, there are some students in my class (I teach all deaf students) who are at risk of being kicked out of school because of cheating. They will have to go through a whole academic hearing and everything. Cheating is not cool, it's not fun, it's a great way to get yourself a lifelong job at the gas station instead of improving your future. Sorry to be a wet blanket here but as a teacher I couldn't let this go, especially seeing how much it completely sucks that these students cheated. (Not in my class.)

12-06-2007, 03:59 AM	#6 (permalink)
Interpretrator Crime fighter Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,425	What one teacher believes is irrelevant: if you break the rules set by a teacher who doesn't have that perspective, then you are cheating. Also: I'm not preparing my students for the real world. I'm preparing them for an academic career. Which cheating can put an end to.

12-06-2007, 06:19 PM	#13 (permalink)
Interpretrator Crime fighter Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,425	I hate to see my students cheat, doesn't matter if it's in my class or another one. Especially when it's a student who is really good, and if she only worked harder she could do so well at whatever she wanted. That is really a shame. Also, it reinforces hearing stereotypes of deaf students. Does that mean every deaf student has to be a role model? No, but sometimes with what life deals you, you just have to work harder than other people to get what you want. That last line is out of my personal experience, by the way. I'm not wagging my finger at you, I just seriously believe that. And it sucks but the benefits are incredible.