Parents of Hearing Children complaining about FM systems

shel90 · 11-17-2007, 06:19 PM

ASLisRisen: Oral Deaf Children: To Be Mainstream OR Not To Be Mainstream

I thought this was interesting. I wonder if my old FM system bothered my hearing peer's ability to understand the lectures.

What do u think of this? Also about the woman's comment about the parents of the oral deaf kids taking advantage of her taxpayer dollars, what do u think?

Banjo · 11-18-2007, 03:01 AM

I used to carry it around when I was a kid. Really never did much for me.

Maybe it worked for some. In my experience, it was completely useless. Mind you, the one I carried around was top-of-the-line.

shel90 · 11-18-2007, 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Banjo

I used to carry it around when I was a kid. Really never did much for me.

Maybe it worked for some. In my experience, it was completely useless. Mind you, the one I carried around was top-of-the-line.

Same here...mine was worthless. My HAs worked better for me than the FM system.

john57 · 11-18-2007, 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Banjo

I used to carry it around when I was a kid. Really never did much for me.

Maybe it worked for some. In my experience, it was completely useless. Mind you, the one I carried around was top-of-the-line.

Sorry to heard that. A properly setup FM system will out perform hearing aids in the simple reason that the micophone is must closer to the speaker voice than with a hearing aid wish in turn gives better signal to noside ratio. I do not know your situation that you face that prevented your FM system to work for you. Not all technical asssistive devices work for everyone. I had four FM sytems in my life and they were a big help in the classroom and at work.

jillio · 11-18-2007, 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by john57

Sorry to heard that. A properly setup FM system will out perform hearing aids in the simple reason that the micophone is must closer to the speaker voice than with a hearing aid wish in turn gives better signal to noside ratio. I do not know your situation that you face that prevented your FM system to work for you. Not all technical asssistive devices work for everyone. I had four FM sytems in my life and they were a big help in the classroom and at work.

FM systems do not work for all. I am glad that you found it a benefit. I currently have a student (post lingual, adult onset HOH of mild to moderate severity) that achieves good benefit from her use of an FM system in the classroom. However, my son (prelignually, congential onset, severe to profound in severity) was not able to get any benefit from the use of an FM system, just shel and Banjo have stated. In my experience, I have found fewer who get very limited to no benefit outnumber those that get some to good benefit, and that the indiviual circumstances such as those I listed are largely resposnible.

Banjo · 11-18-2007, 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by john57

Sorry to heard that. A properly setup FM system will out perform hearing aids in the simple reason that the micophone is must closer to the speaker voice than with a hearing aid wish in turn gives better signal to noside ratio. I do not know your situation that you face that prevented your FM system to work for you. Not all technical asssistive devices work for everyone. I had four FM sytems in my life and they were a big help in the classroom and at work.

Like I said, it may work for some. Glad it worked just fine for you.

deafdyke · 11-19-2007, 07:13 PM

Well the thing is, that they're not USELESS per se.................it's just that they are very overrated. I hate hate hate how they are kneejerkingly prescribed for ALL dhh kids. I mean the people who advocate them, make the typical classroom sound like a construction site.
I did just fine with preferential seating and my aids. Haven't really worn one since 4th grade. (except in college when I had a VERY soft spoken professor) When I asked for use of a FM in college, disabilty services said that I was the first one in YEARS to ask for that accomondation.

shel90 · 11-19-2007, 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by deafdyke

Well the thing is, that they're not USELESS per se.................it's just that they are very overrated. I hate hate hate how they are kneejerkingly prescribed for ALL dhh kids. I mean the people who advocate them, make the typical classroom sound like a construction site.
I did just fine with preferential seating and my aids. Haven't really worn one since 4th grade. (except in college when I had a VERY soft spoken professor) When I asked for use of a FM in college, disabilty services said that I was the first one in YEARS to ask for that accomondation.

When you were a kid and wearing them, did any of your hearing peers ever complain that it interfered with their ability to hear the teacher talking? I just never thought of it and I am really curious if that happens to the hearing students.

Banjo · 11-19-2007, 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by shel90

When you were a kid and wearing them, did any of your hearing peers ever complain that it interfered with their ability to hear the teacher talking? I just never thought of it and I am really curious if that happens to the hearing students.

Never thought of it too as well. I don't recall anybody complaining nor anyone staring at me.

Miss-Delectable · 11-19-2007, 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by shel90

Same here...mine was worthless. My HAs worked better for me than the FM system.

Yep, I agree. I had worn it from toddler to 3rd grade then it was ditched. Good riddance!

I don't believe it did a thing for me and my classmates. Which might be why we were no longer ordered to wear it during third grade or afterward. We were overjoyed, I can tell you that.

R2D2 · 11-20-2007, 03:19 AM

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Originally Posted by shel90

ASLisRisen: Oral Deaf Children: To Be Mainstream OR Not To Be Mainstream

I thought this was interesting. I wonder if my old FM system bothered my hearing peer's ability to understand the lectures.

What do u think of this? Also about the woman's comment about the parents of the oral deaf kids taking advantage of her taxpayer dollars, what do u think?

Interesting. I had an FM system for many years and it saw me through university as well. I loved it as it made me feel I was in a small room with just me and the speaker. I never had anyone complain about it though. Mine was pretty old by todays standards.

I had more complaints about feedback from my hearing aids when I used to wear them.

deafskeptic · 11-20-2007, 10:00 AM

i remember the large area FM system from my first grade class well. The whole class had to use them when I was in the oral program. We all hated it because the headphones hurt.

I started using the Phonic Ear in the 3rd grade and they did help me understand people better but I started hating them in 6th grade as they made me stand out.

Loop systems never did much for me on the other hand.

Reba · 11-20-2007, 10:24 AM

I'm confused about the original posting.

The hearing parents are complaining that the hearing children are bothered by the FM system? What exactly is the problem?

Over the years, I've interpreted for Deaf students in various schools, and they used FM systems. The teachers wore a lapel mike, and the Deaf students wore OTE receivers. I've never heard any sounds coming from the equipment or affecting the hearing students. Are there different kinds of systems that are audible to the hearing people in the classroom? I've never experienced that kind.

shel90 · 11-20-2007, 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Reba

I'm confused about the original posting.

The hearing parents are complaining that the hearing children are bothered by the FM system? What exactly is the problem?

Over the years, I've interpreted for Deaf students in various schools, and they used FM systems. The teachers wore a lapel mike, and the Deaf students wore OTE receivers. I've never heard any sounds coming from the equipment or affecting the hearing students. Are there different kinds of systems that are audible to the hearing people in the classroom? I've never experienced that kind.

I am the same as u. My friend sent me this link and I watched the video so I posted it here for your opinions or experiences cuz I wonder if hearing children can be bothered by FM systems or not. If there is feedback or the system in the classroom echos??

Reba · 11-20-2007, 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by shel90

I am the same as u. My friend sent me this link and I watched the video so I posted it here for your opinions or experiences cuz I wonder if hearing children can be bothered by FM systems or not. If there is feedback or the system in the classroom echos??

I've never heard any feedback or echoes in the classroom.

deafdyke · 11-21-2007, 12:19 AM

Maybe the link is talking about the soundfield systems.
And, no............nobody ever complained about the FM bothering them. I wore the sexy body worn one, with the harness.........LOL.

Reba · 11-21-2007, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by deafdyke

Maybe the link is talking about the soundfield systems.

Maybe. I'm not familiar with that.

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And, no............nobody ever complained about the FM bothering them. I wore the sexy body worn one, with the harness.........LOL.

Oddball · 11-22-2007, 03:19 PM

I used to wear FM systems in elementary and HS for years. I hated them with a passion. During my HS years, I've lost two detachable pins and I did poke a hole on the middle of screen hole on FM system. I supposed to shell over $600 to replace a slightly damaged FM system, but I was told that school paid for it.

Someone totally destroyed a FM system and other person lost a FM system and had to pay $600 to replace it. Speaking of destroying a FM system, we had no way to know who did it on the last day of school and got away with it (without paying for the damages).

jillio · 11-22-2007, 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Oddball

I used to wear FM systems in elementary and HS for years. I hated them with a passion. During my HS years, I've lost two detachable pins and I did poke a hole on the middle of screen hole on FM system. I supposed to shell over $600 to replace a slightly damaged FM system, but I was told that school paid for it.

Someone totally destroyed a FM system and other person lost a FM system and had to pay $600 to replace it. Speaking of destroying a FM system, we had no way to know who did it on the last day of school and got away with it (without paying for the damages).

When my son was mainstreamed in the first grade, they insisted he use an FM system, and he used to take the batteries out and hide them. If he could get to the mic that the teacher wore, he'd hide that, too. I guess those reactions tell us exactly how useful the deaf individual considers the FM system to be. However, the decisions to use one usually rests on some hearing persons idea of how much help the FM system is.

shel90 · 11-22-2007, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Oddball

I used to wear FM systems in elementary and HS for years. I hated them with a passion. During my HS years, I've lost two detachable pins and I did poke a hole on the middle of screen hole on FM system. I supposed to shell over $600 to replace a slightly damaged FM system, but I was told that school paid for it.

Someone totally destroyed a FM system and other person lost a FM system and had to pay $600 to replace it. Speaking of destroying a FM system, we had no way to know who did it on the last day of school and got away with it (without paying for the damages).

Guilty of doing the same to my old FM system. The school eventually gave up in forcing me to wear them.

kimpossible · 11-28-2007, 03:11 PM

hiding it was never necessary for me, my teachers clear forgot to wear them even though i put them on their desk every morning. (okay, maybe a bit out of view...) i just didn't bother to remind them and that was that =)

jillio · 11-28-2007, 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by kimpossible

hiding it was never necessary for me, my teachers clear forgot to wear them even though i put them on their desk every morning. (okay, maybe a bit out of view...) i just didn't bother to remind them and that was that =)

LOL!

deafdyke · 11-28-2007, 11:14 PM

LOL.........most kids I know have hated them. Still don't get why they are so pushed! Prefrential seating or semi-circle seating helps a lot better.

AliciaM · 11-29-2007, 12:07 AM

my university paid for my fm that i get to keep...but i rarely use it since my aids really help and i have a notetaker for the class that i have a heavy accented teacher in...my teachers never cared nor wanted to know bout the fm when i first tried to get them to use it so i gave up

lol

11-17-2007, 06:19 PM	#1 (permalink)
shel90 Sun Whorshipper Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: A Desert Rat that has found herself in Maryland Posts: 14,800 Blog Entries: 1	Parents of Hearing Children complaining about FM systems ASLisRisen: Oral Deaf Children: To Be Mainstream OR Not To Be Mainstream I thought this was interesting. I wonder if my old FM system bothered my hearing peer's ability to understand the lectures. What do u think of this? Also about the woman's comment about the parents of the oral deaf kids taking advantage of her taxpayer dollars, what do u think? __________________ ~Shel~

11-20-2007, 10:00 AM	#12 (permalink)
deafskeptic AAACCK! I got BORGED! Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 2,321	i remember the large area FM system from my first grade class well. The whole class had to use them when I was in the oral program. We all hated it because the headphones hurt. I started using the Phonic Ear in the 3rd grade and they did help me understand people better but I started hating them in 6th grade as they made me stand out. Loop systems never did much for me on the other hand. __________________ Left ear implanted with Med-El on April 24 2007. Activated on May 9th.

11-29-2007, 12:07 AM	#24 (permalink)
AliciaM Lil Italian/Jamaican Chic Join Date: May 2006 Location: Ottawa, ON Posts: 820	my university paid for my fm that i get to keep...but i rarely use it since my aids really help and i have a notetaker for the class that i have a heavy accented teacher in...my teachers never cared nor wanted to know bout the fm when i first tried to get them to use it so i gave up lol __________________ My Blog http://myhohlife.blogspot.com/ *Phonak Una* Never bend your head. Hold it high. Look the world straight in the eye. Helen Keller Alicia

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11-18-2007, 03:01 AM	#2 (permalink)
Banjo Mr. Movie Guy Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 4,961 Blog Entries: 1	I used to carry it around when I was a kid. Really never did much for me. Maybe it worked for some. In my experience, it was completely useless. Mind you, the one I carried around was top-of-the-line.

11-19-2007, 07:13 PM	#7 (permalink)
deafdyke So NOT a Princess! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Trebekistan Posts: 6,549	Well the thing is, that they're not USELESS per se.................it's just that they are very overrated. I hate hate hate how they are kneejerkingly prescribed for ALL dhh kids. I mean the people who advocate them, make the typical classroom sound like a construction site. I did just fine with preferential seating and my aids. Haven't really worn one since 4th grade. (except in college when I had a VERY soft spoken professor) When I asked for use of a FM in college, disabilty services said that I was the first one in YEARS to ask for that accomondation.

11-20-2007, 10:24 AM	#13 (permalink)
Reba Premium Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 16,369	I'm confused about the original posting. The hearing parents are complaining that the hearing children are bothered by the FM system? What exactly is the problem? Over the years, I've interpreted for Deaf students in various schools, and they used FM systems. The teachers wore a lapel mike, and the Deaf students wore OTE receivers. I've never heard any sounds coming from the equipment or affecting the hearing students. Are there different kinds of systems that are audible to the hearing people in the classroom? I've never experienced that kind.

11-21-2007, 12:19 AM	#16 (permalink)
deafdyke So NOT a Princess! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Trebekistan Posts: 6,549	Maybe the link is talking about the soundfield systems. And, no............nobody ever complained about the FM bothering them. I wore the sexy body worn one, with the harness.........LOL.

11-22-2007, 03:19 PM	#18 (permalink)
Oddball Wacky Oddball Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Cleveland native now lives in New Jersey. Posts: 3,159	I used to wear FM systems in elementary and HS for years. I hated them with a passion. During my HS years, I've lost two detachable pins and I did poke a hole on the middle of screen hole on FM system. I supposed to shell over $600 to replace a slightly damaged FM system, but I was told that school paid for it. Someone totally destroyed a FM system and other person lost a FM system and had to pay $600 to replace it. Speaking of destroying a FM system, we had no way to know who did it on the last day of school and got away with it (without paying for the damages).

11-28-2007, 03:11 PM	#21 (permalink)
kimpossible Registered User Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: British Columbia Posts: 177	hiding it was never necessary for me, my teachers clear forgot to wear them even though i put them on their desk every morning. (okay, maybe a bit out of view...) i just didn't bother to remind them and that was that =)

11-28-2007, 11:14 PM	#23 (permalink)
deafdyke So NOT a Princess! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Trebekistan Posts: 6,549	LOL.........most kids I know have hated them. Still don't get why they are so pushed! Prefrential seating or semi-circle seating helps a lot better.