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Old 10-17-2007, 09:14 PM   #31 (permalink)
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Did my recent post that I posted last night get removed? I posted about the number of deaf students starting in the BiBi programs since their diagnosis is small due to parents placing their children in other kinds of programs especially oral ones only to send their children to BiBi programs at a later age when they become delayed in language. Did that post ever get thru?
I never saw it. No reason for it to have been removed. But I agree with the points you made!
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Old 10-17-2007, 09:30 PM   #32 (permalink)
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I never saw it. No reason for it to have been removed. But I agree with the points you made!

Same happen to me that I have some missing post in other thread. I send private message to Alex Chu about why remove post. He refuse answer my question since still today no answer. That reason I don't post lot here (alldeaf) often due Alex is lack of respect here. I had no clue why they removed it even there is no foul language.
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Old 10-17-2007, 09:33 PM   #33 (permalink)
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Same happen to me that I have some missing post in other thread. I send private message to Alex Chu about why remove post. He refuse answer my question since still today no answer. That reason I don't post lot here (alldeaf) often due Alex is lack of respect here. I had no clue why they removed it even there is no foul language.
Oh, O.K. I didn't know that. I thought a post had to be offensive before it was removed.
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Old 12-31-2007, 08:33 AM   #34 (permalink)
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Did I say that? I said the parents need to be educated in order to make an informed decision regarding education alternatives. They are the ones to be educated. Someone must take responsibility for educating.
Sounds like a catch 22 situation to me. Who would be best to educate the parents?
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Old 12-31-2007, 10:51 AM   #35 (permalink)
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Sounds like a catch 22 situation to me. Who would be best to educate the parents?
The professionals responsible for diagnosis should be referring out to programs that provide all views of all options, rather than those which only promote their own philosophy. I posted portions of a research report a short while ago in sign language and oralism, I believe, that looked at parental beliefs regarding the information they received. The conclusion was, doctors, audis, and the professionals who have first contact with the deaf child and the parents are not providing information, nor providing resources to the parents that inlcude all options available. Most often, the information neglected is inforamtion regarding the use of sign. Even though these parents had children that were implanted, their oral language was not developing as expected or with the ease they were led to believe it would, and the parents felt that the lack of information regarding the use of sign had not only deprived their children of the opportunity to acquire langugage in a normal and timely fashion, but that they had also been deprived of several years of communication with their children.

Doctors and audis should be responsible for the initial referrals, deaf educators, early intervention specialists, members of the deaf community, and other parents of deaf children should all be involved in the education of hearing parents of deaf children.
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Old 01-02-2008, 12:38 PM   #36 (permalink)
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The professionals responsible for diagnosis should be referring out to programs that provide all views of all options, rather than those which only promote their own philosophy. I posted portions of a research report a short while ago in sign language and oralism, I believe, that looked at parental beliefs regarding the information they received. The conclusion was, doctors, audis, and the professionals who have first contact with the deaf child and the parents are not providing information, nor providing resources to the parents that inlcude all options available. Most often, the information neglected is inforamtion regarding the use of sign. Even though these parents had children that were implanted, their oral language was not developing as expected or with the ease they were led to believe it would, and the parents felt that the lack of information regarding the use of sign had not only deprived their children of the opportunity to acquire langugage in a normal and timely fashion, but that they had also been deprived of several years of communication with their children.

Doctors and audis should be responsible for the initial referrals, deaf educators, early intervention specialists, members of the deaf community, and other parents of deaf children should all be involved in the education of hearing parents of deaf children.
OK... so that is not happening either. It just seems hopeless especially to hearing parents of newly diagnosed deaf babies.
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Old 01-03-2008, 02:41 AM   #37 (permalink)
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OK... so that is not happening either. It just seems hopeless especially to hearing parents of newly diagnosed deaf babies.
Not hopeless, but difficult,to be sure. That is why it is important that we continue to post all sides on this forum. You never know when a parent is viewing that is looking for more information than what they have been provided by the professionals. Recently, we've had a couple of moms come on that were looking for the deaf perspective from adults, because they understood instinctively that the only person who can tell you what is is to be a deaf child is a deaf adult that has lived it.
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