rjr2006

I have been thinking about hearing colleges as my backup IF i DON'T GET ACCEPTED BY NTID. A few deaf friends told me that hearing colleges don't always provide interpreters for every class. Please give me your opinions on attending hearing colleges. Thanks

RJR

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deafdyke

Personally, as a grad of a hearing college, I think that it's best to find either a large university that has a diverse population or a college that has a formal deaf program. The trouble with disabilty services at hearing colleges, is that they tend to serve mostly LD kids, rather then kids with classic disabilties.

Reba

I am a terp. I work mostly at a public college. Other terps from my agency work at other colleges in this state and other states. The colleges for which we have worked have been very good about providing services to students. They have never refused terp services to any of the Deaf students, no matter how expensive it was for the college. They even willing to pay extra for terps to work evenings and Saturdays, and they pay for team interpreting (two terps working the same time for each class that lectures three or more hours). They also provide terps for all counselling sessions, orientation, and other college meetings and activities.

racheleggert

What about local community college by major cities? My Community College is in the metro area, more accessible to Minneapolis, but more closely to St. Paul so intrepreting services are good. Do you live close to Hartford? If do, it would be best bet.

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rjr2006

i know one community college near my home but my brother said that they would not assist deaf and NWCC is about a hour away from my town. i am from Fairfield, CT..

Kalista

How about in New Britian, CT

http://www.ccsu.edu/

Yes, they do provider the interpreters

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Endymion

I'm with Deafdyke. Definitely go to a big university. The interpreter and real-time captioning access is almost always absolutely fantastic, especially since universities love "minorities" (which include deaf people like us). If you have a problem, you can usually appeal and get lots of support right away. My university has maybe five deaf people, but they have all kinds of fantastic support services and even the deaf counselor is deaf!

Also, a degree from a big university is usually worth a lot and will help you get a good job. (If you go to NTID, I recommend you graduate with a degree from RIT).

Either way, good luck! I hope everything goes well for you!

rjr2006

What college are you currently attending?

rjr2006

well, I just recently applied to CCSU, however my VR Counselor told me that she was discriminated from CCSU, just because she was hoh and they didn't provide her any interpreter services. The primary reason why I chose PUBLIC COLLEGES instate as my backup, because I am trying to look for Personal Care Assistants in order to live on the campus and only if NY doesn't accept my state's Medicaid in order to pay for Personal Care Assistants when I go to NTID/RIT.

Deafdye, do you know anyone who has similar disability like mine and attending college?

Vamp, do you have any friends at RIT that are mobility impared or know any home health care agencies in Rochester?

coloravalanche

If I were you, I would search for hearing college where they have intepreter provided...my advice is not to listen to any of your VR Counselor's advices...because VR tends to put us down and doesnt want to pay us to go where we want to go...know what Im saying?

Good luck to you!

signer16

I know from experience at CSUN, and from the experience of many of my deaf friends, the interpreting at CSUN has NOT been good recently. The biggest problem is that they are short terps but won't raise the salary. They just cut benefits in order to raise the salary but uh, duh, it's the same amount of money. Terps there are leaving for VRS and other schools, even community colleges pay more! CSUN has a good deaf community, and a good deaf studies major program, but they don't seem to have the best services. I've had friends in upper-division classes who have had to miss class because their terp couldn't/didn't show up, and even with plenty of advanced notice, the NCOD (National Center on Deafness) didn't get them a replacement terp.
Also, most other depts. and the dorms are actually not really deaf-friendly, but that's another story.

angelstar819

I definitely encourage you to apply to hearing colleges, especially public universities. Based on the law, you have the right to request interpreters and captioning by consulting with the school's disabilities office. Do what I did last year: visit or call each of the schools' disabilities office and ask them questions about what kind of services they offer and if they have good and reliable interpreters for all the classes you need them for, etc. Usually at big public universities, with such a diverse populations, including minorities like us, deafies, they have better interpreters/captionists. Also, when you apply for these schools, they may ask you to write an essay about yourself. Be sure to mention your deafness and you are more likely to get into the school. Trust me--how do you think I got into UCLA (total population of over 35,000 students)--I'm a first year now am equipped w/ the BEST captionists (I do not know any sign language). BTW, I see that you were born in 1986, why aren't you in college already??

rjr2006

i am supposed to be in college by now but the public schools system had repeated me in 5th grade, due to insufficient services at my private Elementary school.

rjr2006

i applied to 3 hearing colleges and I included "deaf and quadriplegic" in my essay.

deafdyke

Lots of deaf kids wait to graduate til they are 21.

rjr2006

oh really? Well, not me and I just went halfway through my senior year and I will be 20 and graduating in a few months. Why do deaf people WAIT UNTIL they are 21????

Anyways, I might have to stay in CT and go to college part time for a year and that people in special education don't know what they are doing and they are trying to stop me but I will not give up!

rjr2006

yeah and now I am not listening to my vr counselor anymore because she kept trying to push me to go to a school psychologist and I e-mailed her NO in a direct way, but she replied back with this BS:
Many people are worried about testing. Remember when we talked about the test in my office without the school present? I explained that all of my Seniors get psychological tests so that BRS can help them to be successful and provide accommodations and services that best support you after you graduate? This test is not to hurt you, but to help you. Please think about it some more, because without the test. I'm curious to hear how the school changed your mind about getting the Psychological.

Endymion

To which colleges did you apply?

And this school is where my heart is.

Mookie

That's why the France governemnt psychologists test their own French ciziten to match their skill and intelligent for the right major at university or technology school....

Anyway, you may remind your VR counselor about CAP (Client Assistance Program) that you may have right to select your own school...

rjr2006

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Oddball

Yes, it is correct. His VR counselor should not demand him to see psychologist because it violated his rights as a client and she also should respect his informed choices. FYI, I am a VR counselor for State of PA and have to listen to what my clients' needs without critizing them or whatever.

If his vr counselor is still persistent, you can file CAP. I wish you good luck in your education endeavors.

rjr2006

I've been very busy with school and I didn't have time to update this thread.

Here's the news!
I went to see someone who is an advocate and I agreed that I will have to go to community college part time until 2007 and then transfer to bigger college. I am considering Northwestern CT community college because they have dhh program and that I know a deaf woman who works there. She said that SHE KNEW THAT THERE would be deaf people in wheelchairs and that she wants to assist me to go to ntid/rit since she went to NTID in 80's. it looks like my dreams might come true...

My deaf/cp friend said that I am not alone and that I will be with deaf people in future.

Endymion

Going to a community college is smart. The teaching tends to be better at community colleges, and they're cheaper. It gives students a little extra help when adjusting to the rigor of college.

Then you transfer to a bigger university and get a four year degree. Same sheet of paper, same career opportunities. The only different thing is you got your degree for cheaper and you got better teaching at first!

Reba

I totally agree.

Sounds like a plan!

Miss-Delectable

Glad to hear you've worked out something.

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deafdyke

On the other hand...... transferring as a residental kid is HARD to put it mildly. Most transfer students have absolutly NO social life. But I mean community college is good if you're somewhat behind academicly.......still I don't like the current community college I'm attending

Endymion

Deafdyke,

Are you planning to transfer to a four-year program?

If so, good luck! You're a bright person and you seem like you'd be a good addition to the academic deaf world!