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Old 11-04-2004, 07:01 AM   #1 (permalink)
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I found that members are mostly from US, CANADA, AUSTRALIA & EUROPE.I would like to know status, living style, rules & regulation of deaf people in all other countries.Any body can share his experiences of developing and other countries.
I am telling about India, Goverment of INDIA has fixed reservation of 1% in most of the goverment's job for deaf people.Normal Schools can not deny admission to deaf child.All type of hearing aids like phonak, siemens etc. are available but other instruments as I have seen in this site, are rarely available. Mostly parents of deaf are making efforts for their child to bring speech.Sign language is not so popular and available up to10th or 12th standard only.
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Old 11-04-2004, 08:20 AM   #2 (permalink)
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nandlal, what outstanding problems do you find very hard for Deaf people in your country? How are you or any Deafies able to communicate if sign-language isn't the 'norm' or 'popular' for your country?

Thanks for sharing with us the plights and information regarding Deafies/Hoh in your country....
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Old 11-04-2004, 08:48 AM   #3 (permalink)
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How does this relate to forum suggestions? Could you clarify what you're trying to ask for? If this is just a question asking others about their experiences, then I can move this to "General Chat".
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Old 11-04-2004, 07:33 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I read that deaf people in India cannot drive. Is that still true? I think this should be moved up to like Deaf Education or something like that. General Chat is too busy.
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Old 11-04-2004, 11:42 PM   #5 (permalink)
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How does this relate to forum suggestions? Could you clarify what you're trying to ask for? If this is just a question asking others about their experiences, then I can move this to "General Chat".
I have no objection if my question is moved to "General Chat"/"Deaf Education.
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Old 11-04-2004, 11:47 PM   #6 (permalink)
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I read that deaf people in India cannot drive. Is that still true? I think this should be moved up to like Deaf Education or something like that. General Chat is too busy.
It is not true.One has to pass certain test with hearing aid/s.
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Old 11-05-2004, 12:22 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Hmm..was never required a certain hearing test for obtaining a driver's license. I only believe that having a good grasp of english and understanding/following the road laws will allow people to obtain a driver's license.
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Old 11-05-2004, 12:27 AM   #8 (permalink)
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Roadrunner]nandlal, what outstanding problems do you find very hard for Deaf people in your country? How are you or any Deafies able to communicate if sign-language isn't the 'norm' or 'popular' for your country?

Thanks for sharing with us the plights and information regarding Deafies/Hoh in your country....
India is not so rich country.Technological advancement in the field of latest hearing and deaf products is not there .So far sign language is concerned, it is popular among limited deaf people only.But now a days parents are making hard work with their deaf children to develop speech from very begining. My son (8TH standard student) is 90db loss of hearing and can speak almost 70-75% of normal speech in local language.We are sending him to purchase all day today requirements like eggs,breads and other grocery items. From the last three years we are giving him more thrust on english. Now he can write english also but still pronunication is problem.
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Old 11-05-2004, 12:38 AM   #9 (permalink)
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Hmm..was never required a certain hearing test for obtaining a driver's license. I only believe that having a good grasp of english and understanding/following the road laws will allow people to obtain a driver's license.
I have to check up from Transport Department Site.
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Old 11-05-2004, 01:40 AM   #10 (permalink)
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Now he can write english also but still pronunication is problem.
I'm a native speaker of English and I have trouble pronouncing it. I took two languages in high school and can somewhat muddle along en francais, but my pronouncition is crap. However my written understanding is decent and I can handle simple conversation in it.
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Old 11-05-2004, 07:13 AM   #11 (permalink)
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How many do they have Deaf schools in India? I have meet some of students from India at Gallaudet. They stated, they are trying very hard to establishment better education for the Deaf children when they will finish their Master degree.

India government is very oppressed to the Deaf people as they treat them as second class citizten. They are very frustrated to find an interpreter to communication with hearing people. There is not much of knowledge in sign language in India.

It must be very frusratation for you to find a good Deaf school for your Deaf son. Hopefully, India government will realize how important for the Deaf Indian children entroll Deaf Schools to expore their language in sign language.
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Old 11-06-2004, 01:55 AM   #12 (permalink)
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Actually, I think I heard that you needed to hear with hearing aids in order to drive, but can't be completely deaf to drive.

I can drive without my CI, but I wouldn't pick up weird sounds--not sure if that would be important anyway. Just being alert is a good idea.

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Actually, I think I heard that you needed to hear with hearing aids in order to drive, but can't be completely deaf to drive.
The only restriction for Deaf drivers in SC is the vehicle must have left and right outside mirrors.
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Old 11-06-2004, 07:01 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Reba. I think that's so odd. I have that in my state too, but I think that's the same in every state as I have heard others state the same thing. The reason is because every car must have that anyway, which I think it's so weird to make that as a 'requirement.' Don't hearing drivers get penalized for driving with one? I don't understand this 'requirement' since everyone need it. Is it just to have a law for deaf drivers?
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The reason is because every car must have that anyway, which I think it's so weird to make that as a 'requirement.' Don't hearing drivers get penalized for driving with one? I don't understand this 'requirement' since everyone need it. Is it just to have a law for deaf drivers?
Cars are only required to have one outside mirror. Many older cars did not have two mirrors, and people still drive them. Hearing drivers are not required to have two mirrors. Deaf drivers have the 2-mirror restriction printed on their driver's license.
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Old 11-09-2004, 06:35 AM   #16 (permalink)
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Cars are only required to have one outside mirror. Many older cars did not have two mirrors, and people still drive them. Hearing drivers are not required to have two mirrors. Deaf drivers have the 2-mirror restriction printed on their driver's license.
Scientifically, what is advantage of two mirrors in cars to drive it by deaf.
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Old 11-09-2004, 07:46 AM   #17 (permalink)
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I see Reba. My mom and brother don't see how they can drive without it.
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Scientifically, what is advantage of two mirrors in cars to drive it by deaf.
I don't work for DMV, so I can't speak for their conclusions. I think that their theory is that two mirrors give the Deaf driver a better view of what is happening in all lanes next-to and behind them, to make up for the fact that they can't hear emergency sirens approaching.

Personally, I think that two mirrors is a good idea for everyone. I guess the automakers agree because it seems all new vehicles are equipped with two outside mirrors. In fact, on the SUVs and trucks the mirrors get bigger and bigger!

Many hearing drivers don't notice emergency sirens. Drivers have the windows closed, the AC blowing, the radio/CD blaring, or they are chatting with the passenger or on the cell phone.

As a hearing driver, sometimes even when I do hear the sirens, it is difficult to know which direction the sound is coming from.

Bottom line is, it is important for all of us to pay attention to driving.

I don't know why some states are still restricting Deaf drivers. I guess the lawmakers are just behind the times.
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I don't work for DMV, so I can't speak for their conclusions. I think that their theory is that two mirrors give the Deaf driver a better view of what is happening in all lanes next-to and behind them, to make up for the fact that they can't hear emergency sirens approaching.

Personally, I think that two mirrors is a good idea for everyone. I guess the automakers agree because it seems all new vehicles are equipped with two outside mirrors. In fact, on the SUVs and trucks the mirrors get bigger and bigger!

Many hearing drivers don't notice emergency sirens. Drivers have the windows closed, the AC blowing, the radio/CD blaring, or they are chatting with the passenger or on the cell phone.

As a hearing driver, sometimes even when I do hear the sirens, it is difficult to know which direction the sound is coming from.

Bottom line is, it is important for all of us to pay attention to driving.

I don't know why some states are still restricting Deaf drivers. I guess the lawmakers are just behind the times.
Good explanation.Thanks
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Nandlal, I can understand and sympathize for the fact that the Deaf/HoH culture/community lack the resources in areas such as technical advances, social/public awareness and other issues which exists in your country...Isn't there any Deaf/HoH clubs or groups available in any part of your country or does the country consider the plights(problems-difficulties) of Deaf/HoH not worth the attention it does deserves? If there isn't any such groups or functions available, isn't there a possibility that you or any other Deaf/HoH individuals could initiate(begin) such a group that would be beneficial and supportive for all Deaf/HoH people in your country?
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Old 11-11-2004, 02:03 AM   #21 (permalink)
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Usually, if I can't hear it my mom can't hear it either. So usually we have to pay attention.

I don't know why it is so difficult to enforce no cell phone during driving. A few people almost hit my car or I almost hit someone because they weren't paying attention.
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Nandlal, I can understand and sympathize for the fact that the Deaf/HoH culture/community lack the resources in areas such as technical advances, social/public awareness and other issues which exists in your country...Isn't there any Deaf/HoH clubs or groups available in any part of your country or does the country consider the plights(problems-difficulties) of Deaf/HoH not worth the attention it does deserves? If there isn't any such groups or functions available, isn't there a possibility that you or any other Deaf/HoH individuals could initiate(begin) such a group that would be beneficial and supportive for all Deaf/HoH people in your country?
There are some organisations in New Delhi and Bombay who are doing some work for Deaf/HoH.But still lot of work is to be done. We some parents of Deaf/HOH also made small group to discuss problems of Deafs/HOH and getting good result.My work is to teach deaf/HOH children.I am teaching them by making mostly by figures and diagram with local and english language.
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Sweedish deaf community seems to be caught up in technology. Lots deafs in camfrog from sweeden.

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Old 11-17-2004, 06:52 PM   #24 (permalink)
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Sweedish deaf community seems to be caught up in technology. Lots deafs in camfrog from sweeden.

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That is because they live too far apart between, so they turn to their computers to keep in contact without walking miles in snow.

(I can make fun of Swedes since I am a Finn. )
Webcams are popular among the Europeans anyway so it is not surprising the deaf community would jump on this thread especially in northern Europe where urabn-like cities are sparse in these countries.

It is easy to use the technology to keep in touch with the deaf community, for example AllDeaf.com-- as you can notice several countries are using internet to access this website: USA, of course, Australia, germany, England, India, and many more. A decade ago, we wouldn't even know any deaf persons outside of our local city/town, not even from ANOTHER country.

The power of technology, gotta love it.
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This is a very interesting discussion.

Speaking of Deaf people and driving... in Australia, we do not have any restrictions. Deaf people are treated the same way as hearing people here, and we do not have any special conditions. All we have to do whilst driving is be very alert and very aware of what is happening around you whilst driving - just keep on looking in the rear mirror and the door mirrors (drivers and passengers side).

Hearing aids are not necessary whilst driving in Australia - all you need to do is be observant.

Deaf people have excellent concentration skills - this is an advantage for driving.
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Old 11-18-2004, 11:39 PM   #26 (permalink)
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This is a very interesting discussion.

Speaking of Deaf people and driving... in Australia, we do not have any restrictions. Deaf people are treated the same way as hearing people here, and we do not have any special conditions. All we have to do whilst driving is be very alert and very aware of what is happening around you whilst driving - just keep on looking in the rear mirror and the door mirrors (drivers and passengers side).

Hearing aids are not necessary whilst driving in Australia - all you need to do is be observant.

Deaf people have excellent concentration skills - this is an advantage for driving.
We need that over in USA . Why is it so hard for US Americans to understand that we are normal?
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