Study links low intelligence with right-wing beliefs

DeafCaroline · 02-27-2012, 05:40 PM

Study links low intelligence with right-wing beliefs - The Globe and Mail

"Researchers have found a possible explanation for why certain people are prejudiced: they’re less intelligent.

Children with lower general intelligence are more likely to become prejudiced as adults, according to a Brock University study.

The study, published in the journal Psychological Science, examined data from two large-scale British studies, and found lower intelligence scores in childhood were predictors of greater racism in adulthood, which the researchers controversially explain is brought about by adopting right-wing ideologies.

A secondary analysis of data from a U.S. study also showed those with poor abstract-reasoning skills were more likely to have anti-homosexual prejudice, partially linked to authoritarian attitudes.

Lead researcher Gordon Hodson told LiveScience that the results of the study indicate a vicious cycle, in which people with low intelligence are drawn to socially conservative ideologies. In turn, those ideologies can contribute to prejudices.

“Socially conservative ideologies tend to offer structure and order,” he said, explaining why those with lower intelligence may gravitate toward the right. “Unfortunately, many of these features can contribute to prejudice.”

The researchers found that people with lower intelligence also tended to have less contact with other races and groups, which, Dr. Hodson said, supports previous research that determined interacting with other groups is mentally challenging and cognitively draining.

Dr. Hodson explained the findings do not mean all liberals are smart and all conservatives are stupid, LiveScience.com reports. “There are multiple examples of very bright conservatives and not-so-bright liberals, and many examples of very principled conservatives and very intolerant liberals,” he said.

Previous research has suggested that the brains of conservatives and liberals are wired differently."

**saywhatkid** · 02-27-2012, 05:50 PM

I thought it was because they were more emotional, and leftists were more logical. My bad.

Tousi · 02-27-2012, 06:35 PM

The OP has only one reason for posting this.......I mean, Hello, Transparency!

VacationGuy234 · 02-27-2012, 07:05 PM

Wow! I'm speechless!

**TXgolfer** · 02-27-2012, 07:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tousi

The OP has only one reason for posting this.......I mean, Hello, Transparency!

Ya think?

We know why too. No biggie.

**TWA** · 02-27-2012, 07:17 PM

And here is some companion reading material:

Incompetent People Too Ignorant to Know It - Yahoo! News

rolling7 · 02-27-2012, 10:52 PM

A much better title would be:

"Study links low intelligence with Hollywood actors."

Grayma · 02-28-2012, 12:59 AM

Hodson's own prejudices and uncritical assumptions come through far more clearly than anything else he's said. this really is one of the funniest things I've read in ages. It might as well be headlined "Leftwinger proves to himself that his cherished prejudices are true."

There are a number of flaws in his underlying assumptions, and there's a huge leap from one conclusion to another with no underlying data supporting it and no effort to really apply a sound control group.

Not to mention the whole problem with the inconsistency in the left about whether or not IQ test scores are significant.

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As we noted last month--and a tip of the hat to Heather Mac Donald for documenting the phenomenon--colleges and universities have developed sprawling bureaucracies to encourage "diversity," at the expense of traditional academics. Higher-ed institutions also pump out an enormous quantity of dubious scholarship that purportedly proves the ideological presupposition behind this business model--namely, that white racism is the proximate cause of all racial disparity. Here's a funny example, reported by LiveScience.com:

There's no gentle way to put it: People who give in to racism and prejudice may simply be dumb, according to a new study that is bound to stir public controversy.

The research finds that children with low intelligence are more likely to hold prejudiced attitudes as adults. These findings point to a vicious cycle [sic], according to lead researcher Gordon Hodson, a psychologist at Brock University in Ontario. Low-intelligence adults tend to gravitate toward socially conservative ideologies, the study found. Those ideologies, in turn, stress hierarchy and resistance to change, attitudes that can contribute to prejudice, Hodson wrote in an email to LiveScience.

So IQ tests are racist, except when they're used to "prove" that people with "socially conservative ideologies" are racist and intellectually inferior.
TheRoot.com has an article arguing that the Republican presidential candidates are racist. It's about as uninteresting an argument as you can find--but the headline is revealing: "Colorblind Racism: The New Norm." That Orwellian term, "colorblind racism," is the pithiest summation we've ever encountered of the absurdity of contemporary left-liberal racial dogma.

and there's this:

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Additionally, social and cognitive psychologist Brian Nosek of the University of Virginia politely, yet soundly cautions about lending credibility to Hodson‘s handiwork.
Doctor Nosek told Live Science “it is correlational. That means the researchers didn’t conclusively prove that the low intelligence caused the later prejudice. To do that, you’d have to somehow randomly assign otherwise identical people to be smart or dumb, liberal or conservative. Those sorts of studies obviously aren’t possible.”
Doctor Nosek also noted, “…a study of left-wing liberals with stereotypically naïve views like “every kid is a genius in his or her own way,” might find that people who hold these attitudes are also less bright. In other words, it might not be a particular ideology that is linked to stupidity, but extremist views in general.”
I submit that reasonable people of all sociopolitical persuasions understand that prejudice is typically a product of ignorance, which is not within the sole domain of any particular sociopolitical or other group, and even those who hold grand educational credentials can be ignorant.
Because reasonable people acknowledge these realities we rightly can and should automatically reject Hodson’s self-marginalizing handiwork for the unfortunately harmful, damaging, and unhelpful in the public interest and discourse product that it is.

bigotry, of course, is not the provenance of either left or right, and Hodson fails to offer anything but his own assumptions as proof that it is solely the provenance of the side he disdains.

According to the dictionary, a bigot is "a person who is intolerant of any ideas other than his or her own, especially on religion, politics, or race."

I think it's pretty obvious who is truly intolerant of ideas other than his or her own here.

Read more here: From the left, a new wave of bigotry? | CharlotteObserver.com & The Charlotte Observer Newspaper

**Foxrac** · 02-28-2012, 02:06 AM

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Originally Posted by rolling7

A much better title would be:

"Study links low intelligence with Hollywood actors."

It will better to say... "Study links low intelligence with anyone whoever believe about rolling7 saying."

DeafCaroline · 02-28-2012, 08:57 AM

Grayma -

I didn't quote from any leftwing websites. I merely quoted an article that was based on studies and findings from Psychology Today and LiveScience.

You quoted Colony Rabble from "Red County".

charlotte observer is saying leftwings attack anyone who is religious hence the reason they hate right wing republicans so much.

nice twist - religious right wing republicans are attempting to force the people to comply with their beliefs through politicial means which goes against the Consititution which calls for separation of Church and State.

"In contemporary culture, those who claim to tolerate everything are intolerant of ideas that come from perspectives other than their own, especially when those ideas are rooted in conservative politics or evangelical faith.
"

Well DUH. Evangelical conservative right wingers are the worst kind there is.

lol.

rolling7 · 02-28-2012, 11:49 AM

So do you mind me asking which is it, do you stand FOR the separation of government and church or don't? The reason I'm asking is because in another thread I got the idea that you don't.

**Beowulf** · 02-28-2012, 11:56 AM

I have read various articles covering this subject, and even posted about it, but for now I will refrain from making comments.

DeafCaroline · 02-28-2012, 12:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rolling7

So do you mind me asking which is it, do you stand FOR the separation of government and church or don't? The reason I'm asking is because in another thread I got the idea that you don't.

You really had to ask?

rolling7 · 02-28-2012, 07:41 PM

Too bad you are not American because you would make for a normal American politician.

**KarissaMann05** · 02-28-2012, 08:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeafCaroline

Study links low intelligence with right-wing beliefs - The Globe and Mail

"Researchers have found a possible explanation for why certain people are prejudiced: they’re less intelligent.

Children with lower general intelligence are more likely to become prejudiced as adults, according to a Brock University study.

The study, published in the journal Psychological Science, examined data from two large-scale British studies, and found lower intelligence scores in childhood were predictors of greater racism in adulthood, which the researchers controversially explain is brought about by adopting right-wing ideologies.

A secondary analysis of data from a U.S. study also showed those with poor abstract-reasoning skills were more likely to have anti-homosexual prejudice, partially linked to authoritarian attitudes.

Lead researcher Gordon Hodson told LiveScience that the results of the study indicate a vicious cycle, in which people with low intelligence are drawn to socially conservative ideologies. In turn, those ideologies can contribute to prejudices.

“Socially conservative ideologies tend to offer structure and order,” he said, explaining why those with lower intelligence may gravitate toward the right. “Unfortunately, many of these features can contribute to prejudice.”

The researchers found that people with lower intelligence also tended to have less contact with other races and groups, which, Dr. Hodson said, supports previous research that determined interacting with other groups is mentally challenging and cognitively draining.

Dr. Hodson explained the findings do not mean all liberals are smart and all conservatives are stupid, LiveScience.com reports. “There are multiple examples of very bright conservatives and not-so-bright liberals, and many examples of very principled conservatives and very intolerant liberals,” he said.

Previous research has suggested that the brains of conservatives and liberals are wired differently."

Basically, the majority of evil, crazy, closed-minded and stupid right wingers. No wonder, people hate me. Ah, well.

**Foxrac** · 02-28-2012, 09:55 PM

There is good example about Maggie Gallagher and Brian Brown are completely ignorant people and very low intelligence, despite about having a college degree.

whatdidyousay! · 02-28-2012, 10:22 PM

What a load of crap! I had neighbors that where very conservative and they where very intelligence! One neighbor was one of top engineer and worked for the government. Richard Nixon tried to get my neighbor to work for the White House defense department .My neighbor wife was a piano concert player and her father was one of Thomas Edison Pioneers. She had a photo of her dad with
Thomas Edison and some of his first light blubs . And she was one of most conservative woman I knew growing up and she was also one the most intelligence women I had ever meet! I could go with the intelligence conservative people I know. My neighbor was the most right wing person I knew and I respected him and loved him and his wife and he was a life long friend of my famliy. And their children are very intelligence too. This study is full of crap!

rolling7 · 02-28-2012, 10:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whatdidyousay!

What a load of crap! I had neighbors that where very conservative and they where very intelligence! One neighbor was one of top engineer and worked for the government. Richard Nixon tried to get my neighbor to work for the White House defense department .My neighbor wife was a piano concert player and her father was one of Thomas Edison Pioneers. She had a photo of her dad with
Thomas Edison and some of his first light blubs . And she was one of most conservative woman I knew growing up and she was also one the most intelligence women I had ever meet! I could go with the intelligence conservative people I know. My neighbor was the most right wing person I knew and I respected him and loved him and his wife and he was a life long friend of my famliy. And their children are very intelligence too. This study is full of crap!

Most stories fromThe Globe and Mail are full of crap.

**Jiro** · 02-29-2012, 12:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rolling7

Most stories fromThe Globe and Mail are full of crap.

that's how I feel about your political opinions

deafbirk · 02-29-2012, 02:56 AM

Its good to see DC supporting obama and his party. It is a shame she was exiled to canada with her familyas punishment for her crime spree in her youth

Steinhauer · 02-29-2012, 03:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by deafbirk

Its good to see DC supporting obama and his party. It is a shame she was exiled to canada with her familyas punishment for her crime spree in her youth

**Jiro** · 02-29-2012, 03:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Steinhauer

I had same thought.

Steinhauer · 02-29-2012, 03:36 AM

She must not have been spanked growing up

DeafRaptor · 03-05-2012, 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by DeafCaroline

...I didn't quote from any leftwing websites. I merely quoted an article that was based on studies and findings from Psychology Today and LiveScience. *You quoted Colony Rabble from "Red County"...

...nice twist - religious right wing republicans are attempting to force the people to comply with their beliefs through politicial means which goes against the Consititution which calls for separation of Church and State...

..."In contemporary culture, those who claim to tolerate everything are intolerant of ideas that come from perspectives other than their own, especially when those ideas are rooted in conservative politics or evangelical faith.
"...

I attended a Christian elementary and high school with some leftists views and I attended a very liberal college. *Some of the things I learned there speak about exercising caution when using evidence and data and about the assumptions you can safely make. *While I don't doubt the study's finding that those of lower intelligence tend to be more prejudice, I disagree that there has been any finding that there is one political group with higher rate of people with lower intelligence or that prejudice is more prevalent in one or the other group. *I think Grayma found a good article, yes from a typically right-wing biased group, that made a good argument about being careful about finding "a" means "b" and assuming that means you can jump to "z" without proving everything in-between. *A good argument can come from anywhere, it doesn't matter if it came from a typically biased group, although that usually results in people giving it more or less weight than it deserves due to the typical bias they have shown.

Your response may be true that you did not quote from a left-wing website, but from a psychology and science article. *That implies, though, that that journal abstains from posting articles supporting a specific political bias and not posting ones supporting the opposite (maybe true but hold on) or that the writer of the article does not having any biases. *We're all human with biases and beliefs (including in the political arena) and are all susceptible to including those in whatever we do, think, and say even when we intend the opposite.

I am a religious conservative, but I do not try to force my beliefs on anyone. The only way my religious beliefs affect my views is that I will use the constitution to enforce seperation of church and state in order to protect my religious rights not impose on anyone else's.

And your ending quote I believe would be more accurate as "In any culture, those who claim to tolerate everything are frequently intolerant of ideas that come from perspectives other than their own." *I do not believe any group, culture, or religion (or lack of) is exempt from this or that there is any group, culture, or religion (or lack of) where this applies more.

**KarissaMann05** · 03-05-2012, 09:04 PM

Don't bother. They don't care about what you said... they still think you're just another stupid and prejudged person because this thread said so. =/

alicecastillo · 03-05-2012, 11:42 PM

Too much of study material. You might have spent a lot of time searching such posts…..

DeafRaptor · 03-06-2012, 03:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KarissaMann05

Don't bother. They don't care about what you said... they still think you're just another stupid and prejudged person because this thread said so. =/

Don't worry, I don't mind.

I always prefer to give someone an opportunity to learn and grow; if they take it to mind or heart, that is always their choice. It is better to "waste" breath trying to educate then "waste" breath complaining about ignorance; only one way can result in positive change.

About your comment that they will automatically assume I am stupid and/or prejudice without "listening" to my argument (as in debate, not as in being contrary), doesn't that mean they are prejudice, since they pre- (before knowing) judged (form an opinion or assumption) me.

Grayma · 03-06-2012, 03:59 PM

The obvious problem with this so-called study is the axiomatic association of bigotry with conservatives without proving that assertion. It's based on an stereotype that wasn't proven. The fact that a bigoted liberal did the study and had it published in a journal edited and published by those who share his political prejudices in no way lends it credibility.

In fact, the nasty political practice of eugenics is firmly based in progressive politics- if you've never heard of the case of Buck vs Bell, you should read up on it. Carrie Buck was in foster care with an aunt. Her cousin raped her and got her pregnant, so her foster family had her institutionalized as incorrigible. Her case was used by progressives as a test case for a law allowing the forcible sterilization of 'undesireables.' Chief Justice Oliver Wendell Holmes wrote the majority opinion allowing her force sterilization, stating that 'three generations of imbeciles is enough.'
But there weren't three generations of imbeciles. Carrie's mother was something of a ne'er do well, but there's no reason to supposed she was an 'imbecile.' Carrie herself was quite normal, and her illegitimate daughter made the honor roll in school before she died of complications from measles.

That Progressive law, and the eugenics societies popular with Progressives here in the states, were used by Hitler later in creating his programs to eliminate 'undesirables.' The tight connections between Progressives and eugenics indicates that bigotry does not confine itself to only one political point of view- as does the unquestioning, uncritical acceptance of this obviously flawed work.

It's really pretty laughable that people accepted this study without question and think it proves that they are the smart ones.

http://www.rightklik.net/2012/02/bri...gressive.html:

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Naturally, faced with such a delicious affirmation of one of their most cherished stereotypes, progressives have been credulous. To protect and buttress their hateful attitudes, progressives have ignored the problems in Hodson's study while overgeneralizing its dubious results.

In so doing, the left has somehow missed the irony.

But Hodson's research is riddled with flaws. Dr. William M. Briggs, Adjunct Professor of Statistical Science at Cornell University, takes note:

[The study] is a textbook example of confused data, unrecognized bias, and ignorance of statistics...

What makes the study ludicrous, even ignoring the biases, manipulations, and qualifications just outlined, by the authors’ own admission the direct effect size for [intelligence] on “racism” is only -0.01 for men and 0.02 for women. Utterly trivial; close enough to no effect to be no effect...

Dr. Briggspoints to a host of other problems.

In fact, several important points have been conspicuously ignored during left-wing jubilation over Hodson’s research:

1. Some ideas that are strongly associated with the progressive point of view are firmly rooted in ignorance. For example:

If you changed the question to attitudes toward global free trade there would be a correlation between lower I.Q. and the ‘more liberal’ (at last in American politics) position.

Why do I feel it’s safe to bet that Hodson and his fans will not hasten to investigate these links?

As Jonathan Haidt has articulated most recently, most academic political scientists and psychologists have strongly social liberal views, and so they consciously or unconsciously tend to caricature and misrepresent the views of half their study population…

2. "As LiveScience's Stephanie Pappas mentions, the questionnaire didn't test for secretly racist thoughts, and thus the more intelligent subjects may still have been prejudiced, but just better at lying about it." (social desirability bias, à la the Bradley effect).

Hodson et al. are utterly disappointing in their lazy attempt to address this concern.

3. The study looked at IQ at ages 10-11, and social attitudes 20 years later. "[T]rying to measure a person's 'cognitive ability' at such a tender age is fraught with difficulty. According toa recent paper in Nature, IQ fluctuates dramatically during adolescence, with some people's scores improving and others' deteriorating, and only becomes relatively static once the brain has stopped growing." A direct link between childhood IQ and adult attitudes would be expected to be tenuous, at best.

4. Conservative prejudice (real or imagined) does not justify prejudice against conservatives. This is especially true if we are to believe that conservative prejudice is truly due to intrinsic cognitive deficiencies.

One of the most pernicious ideas to emerge from this discussion is the notion that conservative ideology is a poison that turns feeble-minded folk into monsters.

If we get the the point where we’ve legitimized the idea that stupid people should be sheilded from our opponents’ political ideas, we’ll be well on our way to a panoply of problems that are at least as dangerous as Hodson’s “dark attitudes.”

Grayma · 03-06-2012, 04:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeafRaptor

Don't worry, I don't mind.

I always prefer to give someone an opportunity to learn and grow; if they take it to mind or heart, that is always their choice. It is better to "waste" breath trying to educate then "waste" breath complaining about ignorance; only one way can result in positive change.

About your comment that they will automatically assume I am stupid and/or prejudice without "listening" to my argument (as in debate, not as in being contrary), doesn't that mean they are prejudice, since they pre- (before knowing) judged (form an opinion or assumption) me.

Yes, you are right. It clearly shows their own bigotry and prejudices without proving anything about anybody else.

**Foxrac** · 03-06-2012, 04:27 PM

Most GOP politicians are bigoted and less integellence when come with issue over gay marriage and abortion. They come to against on our belief and I think that abortion should be up to women without government interfere. The gay marriage is personal matters and opinion should be not heard from majority of people since gay marriage is very minority.

This situation has caused for me to not support GOP anymore.

02-27-2012, 05:40 PM	#1 (permalink)
DeafCaroline Registered User Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 4,889	Study links low intelligence with right-wing beliefs Study links low intelligence with right-wing beliefs - The Globe and Mail "Researchers have found a possible explanation for why certain people are prejudiced: they’re less intelligent. Children with lower general intelligence are more likely to become prejudiced as adults, according to a Brock University study. The study, published in the journal Psychological Science, examined data from two large-scale British studies, and found lower intelligence scores in childhood were predictors of greater racism in adulthood, which the researchers controversially explain is brought about by adopting right-wing ideologies. A secondary analysis of data from a U.S. study also showed those with poor abstract-reasoning skills were more likely to have anti-homosexual prejudice, partially linked to authoritarian attitudes. Lead researcher Gordon Hodson told LiveScience that the results of the study indicate a vicious cycle, in which people with low intelligence are drawn to socially conservative ideologies. In turn, those ideologies can contribute to prejudices. “Socially conservative ideologies tend to offer structure and order,” he said, explaining why those with lower intelligence may gravitate toward the right. “Unfortunately, many of these features can contribute to prejudice.” The researchers found that people with lower intelligence also tended to have less contact with other races and groups, which, Dr. Hodson said, supports previous research that determined interacting with other groups is mentally challenging and cognitively draining. Dr. Hodson explained the findings do not mean all liberals are smart and all conservatives are stupid, LiveScience.com reports. “There are multiple examples of very bright conservatives and not-so-bright liberals, and many examples of very principled conservatives and very intolerant liberals,” he said. Previous research has suggested that the brains of conservatives and liberals are wired differently." Foxrac, TXgolfer and Ildri like this.

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rolling7 Banned Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 3,340	A much better title would be: "Study links low intelligence with Hollywood actors."

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DeafCaroline Registered User Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 4,889	Grayma - I didn't quote from any leftwing websites. I merely quoted an article that was based on studies and findings from Psychology Today and LiveScience. You quoted Colony Rabble from "Red County". charlotte observer is saying leftwings attack anyone who is religious hence the reason they hate right wing republicans so much. nice twist - religious right wing republicans are attempting to force the people to comply with their beliefs through politicial means which goes against the Consititution which calls for separation of Church and State. "In contemporary culture, those who claim to tolerate everything are intolerant of ideas that come from perspectives other than their own, especially when those ideas are rooted in conservative politics or evangelical faith. " Well DUH. Evangelical conservative right wingers are the worst kind there is. lol. Ildri likes this.

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rolling7 Banned Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 3,340	So do you mind me asking which is it, do you stand FOR the separation of government and church or don't? The reason I'm asking is because in another thread I got the idea that you don't.

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rolling7 Banned Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 3,340	Too bad you are not American because you would make for a normal American politician. airportcop likes this.

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Foxrac Need Stormtroopers? Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Zaphias Posts: 32,521	There is good example about Maggie Gallagher and Brian Brown are completely ignorant people and very low intelligence, despite about having a college degree. __________________ In Moto We Trust

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whatdidyousay! Registered User Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 8,608	What a load of crap! I had neighbors that where very conservative and they where very intelligence! One neighbor was one of top engineer and worked for the government. Richard Nixon tried to get my neighbor to work for the White House defense department .My neighbor wife was a piano concert player and her father was one of Thomas Edison Pioneers. She had a photo of her dad with Thomas Edison and some of his first light blubs . And she was one of most conservative woman I knew growing up and she was also one the most intelligence women I had ever meet! I could go with the intelligence conservative people I know. My neighbor was the most right wing person I knew and I respected him and loved him and his wife and he was a life long friend of my famliy. And their children are very intelligence too. This study is full of crap! airportcop likes this.

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deafbirk Banned Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 619	Its good to see DC supporting obama and his party. It is a shame she was exiled to canada with her familyas punishment for her crime spree in her youth

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alicecastillo Registered User Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 5	Too much of study material. You might have spent a lot of time searching such posts…..

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Foxrac Need Stormtroopers? Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Zaphias Posts: 32,521	Most GOP politicians are bigoted and less integellence when come with issue over gay marriage and abortion. They come to against on our belief and I think that abortion should be up to women without government interfere. The gay marriage is personal matters and opinion should be not heard from majority of people since gay marriage is very minority. This situation has caused for me to not support GOP anymore. __________________ In Moto We Trust

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