Father shoots daughter’s laptop after disrespectful Facebook post - Page 3

limaris21 · 02-11-2012, 06:22 AM

I think this is the Father of the Year. not only did he though her a lesson by 1. embarrassing in front of her friends in fb like she obviously did to her parents. 2. ground her for 3 months 3. took away the one thing she loves the most or likes the most her laptop. all this was done without having to lay any hands on her. American Teenagers are wild that is the reality they have no respect for themselves or parents they want parents to give them the freedom to act like adults and no that cant happen. if you let this fly this is how teenager get pregnant, brake the law and kill there own parents. If this parent would have let this fly by who knows what this kid would have done next. Listen she got lucky cause in my times my Mother would have wip the hell out me and then my Father and yes my laptop would have been exploted too.

**Dixie** · 02-11-2012, 12:06 PM

I don't think this is a dysfunctional family, I just think he's a really tough parent that knows his daughter is capable of better behavior and expects it from her. I don't think he planned on this going viral and in his FB comments I think he realized that this wasn't an expected consequence (the viral part) and that now he will have to teach her a second lesson- you shouldn't gain from bad behavior despite what the media tells you. This why he is turning down interviews, call-ins, and talk show appearances, and even an offer of a mini series from CBS. I wonder what super nanny has to say about this? Lol.

DeafTim · 02-11-2012, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by whatdidyousay!

Hey my dad would had smash my car engine to pieces if he was able to open the hood up! I was glad he was too drunk to get the hood up! I was worried he would get hurt .

Your father was piss drunk and the cowboy wasnt drunk. He wanted to show-off and I was very disgusted with the fake cowboy.

kokonut · 02-11-2012, 05:26 PM

How do you know he was drunk?

**TWA** · 02-11-2012, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by kokonut

How do you know he was drunk?

Who?

kokonut · 02-11-2012, 05:40 PM

nevermind...

**TWA** · 02-11-2012, 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by kokonut

nevermind...

Why do you hate the quote button?

**deafskeptic** · 02-11-2012, 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by sallylou

Destroying personal property and showing weapons are forms of intimidation. These are signs of a controlling, abusive man. The mere fact that the father is isolating the daughter by taking away a form of communication is disturbing. It must be nice to have so much privilege as to unware of that fact.

Oh yes big time. My parents never did that as a way to control me except to show paddings that were used for spanking kids.

I have mentioned my BPD friend once or twice in the past in AD. When he taught me how to play Rummy 500, I got so good at it that I beat him at it. He threw a fit when I told him that was unacceptable. He told me that at least he didn't throw furniture or destroy them as a way show how his behavior had improved compared to how he dealt with stuff like this in past. He has destroyed and thrown furniture in the past too.

Once my friend held his mother and sisters at knife point for two hours.

I stopped being his friend after a few more fits like this. He would threaten to kill himself if my dad looked at him the wrong way. My dad is like that all the time and he found out to his shock I wasn't exggarting about my dad's strict behavior. He is uber strict.

whatdidyousay! · 02-11-2012, 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Steel X

I agree with Sallylou. This is not acceptable behavior and it is not how a parent can teach a child like that...especially with a deadly weapon against a personal belonging. He can do better than that than scaring the shit out of her daughter like that.

I saw this on TV and the girl's mother told the dad to shot the laptop for her too! It was both parents

whatdidyousay! · 02-11-2012, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by kokonut

How do you know he was drunk?

I posted that my dad was drunk and pissed off as I was late getting home.

**Dixie** · 02-12-2012, 11:24 AM

But the girl kept pushing her dad's buttons after repeated warnings to not do this again in the future or things would be a whole lot worse. She did it anyway, did not listen to her dad then by sheer stupidity, made the post from her own laptop then had her own dad whom she posted badly about who is also an IT professional work on her computer for 6 hours upgrading it and adding new software to it. Then needless to say he finds the post after she deliberately took measures to to block her parents from seeing it.

If they guy is an IT professional, I would only assume that in that $130 software upgrade he did, he would also likely installed key stroke tracking software that runs silently in the background without her knowledge. Before anyone is in a tizzy, technically the computer belongs to the dad because he bought and it paid for it with his own money. He only ALLOWS the daughter to use it, it is technically not her laptop. So if he wanted to run keystroke tracking software on his own computer that he allowed his daughter to use for schoolwork and for social networking with friends. Also the fact she is only 15 years old, soon to be 16, she is still a minor. When you are a minor, you have no privacy. She also has no job, therefore her dad gives her chores around the house to do to help the family run the household and even told the daughter if she got a job these chores would be reduced or even completely disappear.

The father has now set some new standards for her:
1. She will get a new laptop when she buys a new a laptop after paying her father back for the $130 plus the nine bullets he put in the one he shot up.
2. When she breaks her cell phone, she will be required to pay for her own new cell phone. (he revealed she had already been through 4 droid phones because she keeps losing them or breaking them).
3. She WILL get a job one way or another.

My suggestion - her stepmom owns and runs a veterinary clinic, why not force the girl to work there for wages just like the other employees, starting on her 16th birthday? Have her work a full 40 hours a week while juggling school as a high school student then see if the girl still thinks that doing minor chores and keeping up with school is 'freaking crazy'.

Just when the girl thinks when she will be able to just buy her a new laptop and cell phone in a couple of weeks slap the girl with rent, car insurance, gas, maintenance and upkeep on vehicle, has to buy her own clothes, and whatever else she thinks she 'needs'. Pay her only minimum wage. The girl will soon find out that it will take her months and months to even come close to saving up enough money for a new laptop with everything she wants on it, new phone with everything she wants on it, a new dSLR camera she wants, AFTER she pays back her dad and paying her bills. The parents can even throw in an offer of 'extra money' if she does extra things around the house such as - taking Linda's place for a day for a whopping extra $5. That will teach her the value of hard work and a job well done. My daughter s 8 and she is currently learning that lesson by being required to work with me in the chicken houses every day after school as well as all day on Saturday, until all the money is paid back through labor. After her punishment is up I will have another heart to heart talk with her and offer her to work for her own wages on the farm if she so wishes to. This means she will get to have her own money that she earned herself to spend how she wishes. I think at that point she will have learned the value of work.

kokonut · 02-12-2012, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by whatdidyousay!

I posted that my dad was drunk and pissed off as I was late getting home.

Yeah, I already saw that.

**deafskeptic** · 02-12-2012, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Dixie

But the girl kept pushing her dad's buttons after repeated warnings to not do this again in the future or things would be a whole lot worse. She did it anyway, did not listen to her dad then by sheer stupidity, made the post from her own laptop then had her own dad whom she posted badly about who is also an IT professional work on her computer for 6 hours upgrading it and adding new software to it. Then needless to say he finds the post after she deliberately took measures to to block her parents from seeing it.

If they guy is an IT professional, I would only assume that in that $130 software upgrade he did, he would also likely installed key stroke tracking software that runs silently in the background without her knowledge. Before anyone is in a tizzy, technically the computer belongs to the dad because he bought and it paid for it with his own money. He only ALLOWS the daughter to use it, it is technically not her laptop. So if he wanted to run keystroke tracking software on his own computer that he allowed his daughter to use for schoolwork and for social networking with friends. Also the fact she is only 15 years old, soon to be 16, she is still a minor. When you are a minor, you have no privacy. She also has no job, therefore her dad gives her chores around the house to do to help the family run the household and even told the daughter if she got a job these chores would be reduced or even completely disappear.

The father has now set some new standards for her:
1. She will get a new laptop when she buys a new a laptop after paying her father back for the $130 plus the nine bullets he put in the one he shot up.
2. When she breaks her cell phone, she will be required to pay for her own new cell phone. (he revealed she had already been through 4 droid phones because she keeps losing them or breaking them).
3. She WILL get a job one way or another.

My suggestion - her stepmom owns and runs a veterinary clinic, why not force the girl to work there for wages just like the other employees, starting on her 16th birthday? Have her work a full 40 hours a week while juggling school as a high school student then see if the girl still thinks that doing minor chores and keeping up with school is 'freaking crazy'.

Just when the girl thinks when she will be able to just buy her a new laptop and cell phone in a couple of weeks slap the girl with rent, car insurance, gas, maintenance and upkeep on vehicle, has to buy her own clothes, and whatever else she thinks she 'needs'. Pay her only minimum wage. The girl will soon find out that it will take her months and months to even come close to saving up enough money for a new laptop with everything she wants on it, new phone with everything she wants on it, a new dSLR camera she wants, AFTER she pays back her dad and paying her bills. The parents can even throw in an offer of 'extra money' if she does extra things around the house such as - taking Linda's place for a day for a whopping extra $5. That will teach her the value of hard work and a job well done. My daughter s 8 and she is currently learning that lesson by being required to work with me in the chicken houses every day after school as well as all day on Saturday, until all the money is paid back through labor. After her punishment is up I will have another heart to heart talk with her and offer her to work for her own wages on the farm if she so wishes to. This means she will get to have her own money that she earned herself to spend how she wishes. I think at that point she will have learned the value of work.

I think that giving away her laptop would have been a better idea than shooting it.

Then she'd have to earn her own laptop at a legal age. She's 15 so I'm not sure she's of legal age to earn her own money for laptop.

**Dixie** · 02-12-2012, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by deafskeptic

I think that giving away her laptop would have been a better idea than shooting it.

Then she'd have to earn her own laptop at a legal age. She's 15 so I'm not sure she's of legal age to earn her own money for laptop.

The father said she was 15 going on 16 years old. I have a feeling this girl is very close to turning 16 which is why her parents have been pushing her to get a job or North Carolina allows minors to start working at age 15.

In AR you can work at age 16, but under a hardship statement, you can start working and driving at age 14. I know some people that worked at younger ages under the hardship law. One boy had a single mom and it was him and his three brothers. He was working as a janitor/maintenance man for the local school during the summer starting at age 14. He was the oldest brother so under the hardship he was working at a younger age to help his mom provide for him and his siblings.

Another girl I knew got to drive under the hardship - her dad owned a farm. Her parents were divorced and they lived in different cities. She had to go to her mom's every other weekend but her dad 'needed' her to help run the farm every weekend so under that hard ship the girl was able to drive by herself from her mom's house to the farm and to her dad's house. If she was caught going anywhere else (abusing the hardship) she would lose her driving privileges until aged 21.

I never used the hardship myself so I'm not sure what the specifics are. These are just a couple of cases that I was personally aware of.

Steinhauer · 02-12-2012, 02:52 PM

My parents required me to work when I was 15. I am glad they did it. Otherwise, I would have this mentality that I am too good for anything.

Steel X · 02-12-2012, 03:10 PM

Everyone need to think more clearly about the 15 yr old girl. Remember shes a teenager in high school..like many other teens, they can be difficult but at the same time they can get stressed and pressured between school homework and chores and everything else so the father should know that. The gun is NOT mean to be used in any situation except for self defense. Believe me I know how she feels...I was a teenager once too and I went through shit and I vent shit out alot like that and so her father is doing the same but this time with a gun included. What does that tell you? He's crazy.

Mountain Man · 02-12-2012, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Banjo

It's more than just the laptop. There are underlying issues within the family and this laptop only scratched the surface of it. I know a dysfunctional family when I see one.

But you haven't seen a dysfunctional family here, you've seen an isolated video of a father calmly putting a few bullets in his daughter's laptop. It's grossly unfair to take this one incident and declare that the family is dysfunctional.

**Banjo** · 02-12-2012, 03:52 PM

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But you haven't seen a dysfunctional family here, you've seen an isolated video of a father calmly putting a few bullets in his daughter's laptop. It's grossly unfair to take this one incident and declare that the family is dysfunctional.

A functional family would not use a gun as a form of discipline. Enough said.

kokonut · 02-12-2012, 04:44 PM

oooooohhh...

Mountain Man · 02-13-2012, 06:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Banjo

A functional family would not use a gun as a form of discipline. Enough said.

Begging the question.

whatdidyousay! · 02-13-2012, 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by kokonut

Yeah, I already saw that.

Oh I thought you asking about my post. OOPS!

DeafTim · 02-13-2012, 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by whatdidyousay!

Oh I thought you asking about my post. OOPS!

sorry for confusin you and kokonut...

I'd like to see the father get arrested on couple of charges. That would be great.

kokonut · 02-14-2012, 12:56 AM

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Originally Posted by DeafTim

sorry for confusin you and kokonut...

I'd like to see the father get arrested on couple of charges. That would be great.

It'll never happen.

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The former Marine wrote on his Facebook page that Child Protective Services officials came to his home in Stanly Co. on Saturday and interviewed him and his daughter — separately — after viewers of the video called with concerns about his actions.

He said the police also stopped by.

“The police by the way said ‘Kudos, sir,’ ” Jordan wrote. "I actually had a "thank you" from an entire detectives squad. And another police officer is using it in a positive manner in his presentation for the school system. How’s about those apples? Didn’t expect THAT when you called the cops did you?”

Police officials in Albemarle told Channel 9 they have received dozens of calls and emails asking why they haven't done anything about the video. Officials said Jordan lives outside of city limits, so his actions are outside of their jurisdiction.

Officials at the Stanly County Sheriff's Office said there are no laws against what Jordan did, so they will not be investigating the matter.

In the Saturday Facebook post, Jordan said he does not regret making the video and stands by his decision to post it.

YouTube dad says authorities pay visit; Daughter gets job offer | www.wsoctv.com

**Foxrac** · 02-14-2012, 01:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Steinhauer

My parents required me to work when I was 15. I am glad they did it. Otherwise, I would have this mentality that I am too good for anything.

I'm on opposite of you and my parent won't allow me to find a job until 18 because my parent want me to focus in the school so I got HS diploma after passed all state exams.

Grayma · 02-14-2012, 01:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Steel X

The gun is NOT mean to be used in any situation except for self defense..

That's not true. You use guns for something fun to do on a Saturday afternoon, for hunting and for target practice, too.
He used the gun on his own laptop that he bought, that he spent hours working on, and that he spent a lot of money upgrading. Target practice.

Perfectly acceptable.

I *Have* a 15 year old girl. She is the youngest of six girls. I've *been* a 15 year old girl. I think what he did was just fine. As it turns out, the cops and social services don't have a problem with it, either.

I especially liked the very first thing he responded to about the letter. In her facebook post she said she shouldn't have to do chores because 'we have a cleaning lady and her name is Linda, not Hannah."
The dad said that Linda was a personal family friend who was exchanging cleaning for money she owed him for his business, and that she worked harder every single day than his kid had her whole life, and that his daughter was not ever to be so rude and refer to her as the cleaning lady again.

It really seemed to me like the very publicly rude, disrespectful, way his daughter treated a friend going through a tough time bothered him as much as anything else.

We've never had to shoot a laptop, but we have taken away facebook and cellphone privileges, because that's what they are- privileges, not rights.

P.S. forgot to mention another legitimate use of the gun- my husband had our girls stand outside and target shoot when a very rough roofing crew was working on our house. He didn't like the way he heard the men talking when they didn't know he was there. we live in the country and my husband was in a cast at the time, and he wanted the crew to know we weren't unprotected. The girls are good shots, and he made sure the roofing crew knew it.

**Foxrac** · 02-14-2012, 02:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Grayma

That's not true. You use guns for something fun to do on a Saturday afternoon, for hunting and for target practice, too.
He used the gun on his own laptop that he bought, that he spent hours working on, and that he spent a lot of money upgrading. Target practice.

Perfectly acceptable.

I *Have* a 15 year old girl. She is the youngest of six girls. I've *been* a 15 year old girl. I think what he did was just fine. As it turns out, the cops and social services don't have a problem with it, either.

I especially liked the very first thing he responded to about the letter. In her facebook post she said she shouldn't have to do chores because 'we have a cleaning lady and her name is Linda, not Hannah."
The dad said that Linda was a personal family friend who was exchanging cleaning for money she owed him for his business, and that she worked harder every single day than his kid had her whole life, and that his daughter was not ever to be so rude and refer to her as the cleaning lady again.

It really seemed to me like the very publicly rude, disrespectful, way his daughter treated a friend going through a tough time bothered him as much as anything else.

We've never had to shoot a laptop, but we have taken away facebook and cellphone privileges, because that's what they are- privileges, not rights.

P.S. forgot to mention another legitimate use of the gun- my husband had our girls stand outside and target shoot when a very rough roofing crew was working on our house. He didn't like the way he heard the men talking when they didn't know he was there. we live in the country and my husband was in a cast at the time, and he wanted the crew to know we weren't unprotected. The girls are good shots, and he made sure the roofing crew knew it.

That's just his view on guns.

UNYTruthHunters · 02-14-2012, 08:14 AM

Sally, please stop drinking the Kool Aid! The Liberals in this country has destroyed America because they do not believe in discipline. They are the ones usually want to take take take. They are the ones believe in spoiling and say, "Oh it is okay, you made a mistake, it is alright." It IS NOT alright to do that. Then that is what happens to America. Occupiers are acting this way with greed, not corporations.

Today children are spoiled brat and taking advantage of the current liberal agenda with banning spanking (believe me, it did work for me when I was a kid and I got spanked!), and giving chores and limit what children can get with all of the technology. Thanks to the materialism of Christmas and Birthdays. That is why last Christmas I gave NO one presents. I only got ONE present that I do not need at all! Really!

I do not have any children but would love to however, long story. Anyway, if I did or will have, I will NOT spoil my children with things and will be very strict. They will be given a good (still have it) typewriter to do papers for school and if she or he wants a computer. Like a car, wait till they are 18! Or 21. I could also do this way and I think many parents should modified computers so that it will not have internet explorier, no wifi, no cameras, etc. I have another computer here that is not connected to the net so I do not get it virus infected for my autoCAD drafting and designs. That is why I have another puter for that.

So, maybe this guy should have taken out everything in his daughter's computer and just have MS Office or OpenOffice software. That is all.

Another problem arise though. what about schools that have access to internet? I would tell my kids' school (I rather home schooling), that they are not to access to the net and must be fully supervised. I can also montior on FB, MS, etc what she has been doing. If caught, then ask the school to remove it or I would have to ask her for password to remove it even if I have to take her to court! Can do that!

I clapped big time for this father for shooting the laptop. I believe it was his, not his daughter. He has rights to shoot it. He sure made my day! Haha.

PowerON · 02-14-2012, 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Foxrac

I'm on opposite of you and my parent won't allow me to find a job until 18 because my parent want me to focus in the school so I got HS diploma after passed all state exams.

I'm opposite both you. My parents allow me to make my own choice as long as I finish high school. I decide to work anyway. I want an experience.

kokonut · 02-14-2012, 09:58 AM

Like I said, until you have kids.....sometimes you get the roughest diamond among the lot where you may have to take unconventional means on the extra effort to polish it.

**Foxrac** · 02-14-2012, 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by UNYTruthHunters

Sally, please stop drinking the Kool Aid! The Liberals in this country has destroyed America because they do not believe in discipline. They are the ones usually want to take take take. They are the ones believe in spoiling and say, "Oh it is okay, you made a mistake, it is alright." It IS NOT alright to do that. Then that is what happens to America. Occupiers are acting this way with greed, not corporations.

Today children are spoiled brat and taking advantage of the current liberal agenda with banning spanking (believe me, it did work for me when I was a kid and I got spanked!), and giving chores and limit what children can get with all of the technology. Thanks to the materialism of Christmas and Birthdays. That is why last Christmas I gave NO one presents. I only got ONE present that I do not need at all! Really!

I do not have any children but would love to however, long story. Anyway, if I did or will have, I will NOT spoil my children with things and will be very strict. They will be given a good (still have it) typewriter to do papers for school and if she or he wants a computer. Like a car, wait till they are 18! Or 21. I could also do this way and I think many parents should modified computers so that it will not have internet explorier, no wifi, no cameras, etc. I have another computer here that is not connected to the net so I do not get it virus infected for my autoCAD drafting and designs. That is why I have another puter for that.

So, maybe this guy should have taken out everything in his daughter's computer and just have MS Office or OpenOffice software. That is all.

Another problem arise though. what about schools that have access to internet? I would tell my kids' school (I rather home schooling), that they are not to access to the net and must be fully supervised. I can also montior on FB, MS, etc what she has been doing. If caught, then ask the school to remove it or I would have to ask her for password to remove it even if I have to take her to court! Can do that!

I clapped big time for this father for shooting the laptop. I believe it was his, not his daughter. He has rights to shoot it. He sure made my day! Haha.

Your bold quote is bunch of bullshit.

My parent is very liberal and I was raised in strict way. I had thorough with numerous nasty punishment during young child and teenager and it was no fun at all. My sister had HELL life with many punishment everyday and she has mental disorder that make nearly impossible to change without see a psychiatrist.

The liberal agenda has nothing with nature behavior of child and having a child can be very nasty job for taking care of them. Some children may require juvenile or rehabilitation to change the behavior if their behavior is too extreme. Spanking at home is legal in all states but illegal in public school in most states, even some states like Alabama, many public schools have banned on spanking during 80's and 90's.

Some occupiers are raised by strict parent but they decided to ignore the influence from parent. Not all occupiers are violent and they are fighting against corporation greed. I agree with them about corporation is truly greedy.

02-11-2012, 06:22 AM	#61 (permalink)
limaris21 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Dearborn, Michigan Posts: 38	I think this is the Father of the Year. not only did he though her a lesson by 1. embarrassing in front of her friends in fb like she obviously did to her parents. 2. ground her for 3 months 3. took away the one thing she loves the most or likes the most her laptop. all this was done without having to lay any hands on her. American Teenagers are wild that is the reality they have no respect for themselves or parents they want parents to give them the freedom to act like adults and no that cant happen. if you let this fly this is how teenager get pregnant, brake the law and kill there own parents. If this parent would have let this fly by who knows what this kid would have done next. Listen she got lucky cause in my times my Mother would have wip the hell out me and then my Father and yes my laptop would have been exploted too. JabberJay likes this.

02-11-2012, 12:06 PM	#62 (permalink)
Dixie May I be found in Him Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Arkansas Posts: 13,266	I don't think this is a dysfunctional family, I just think he's a really tough parent that knows his daughter is capable of better behavior and expects it from her. I don't think he planned on this going viral and in his FB comments I think he realized that this wasn't an expected consequence (the viral part) and that now he will have to teach her a second lesson- you shouldn't gain from bad behavior despite what the media tells you. This why he is turning down interviews, call-ins, and talk show appearances, and even an offer of a mini series from CBS. I wonder what super nanny has to say about this? Lol. __________________ Oh, you will. It is all a dream and since matter cannot be created nor destroyed, the dreams must be real in all their myriad forms. -Beowulf This Delicate Thing God Has Made *The world is measured in peasants; smaller than a unicorn but, bigger than a tidbit!*

02-11-2012, 05:26 PM	#64 (permalink)
kokonut Registered User Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 15,348	How do you know he was drunk? __________________ Before AD. After AD. "Restriction on free thought and free speech is the most dangerous of all subversions. It is the one un-American act that could most easily defeat us." -Thurgood Marshall, former Supreme Court Justice "... turns out they are telling the truth."

02-11-2012, 05:40 PM	#66 (permalink)
kokonut Registered User Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 15,348	nevermind... __________________ Before AD. After AD. "Restriction on free thought and free speech is the most dangerous of all subversions. It is the one un-American act that could most easily defeat us." -Thurgood Marshall, former Supreme Court Justice "... turns out they are telling the truth."

02-12-2012, 11:24 AM	#71 (permalink)
Dixie May I be found in Him Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Arkansas Posts: 13,266	But the girl kept pushing her dad's buttons after repeated warnings to not do this again in the future or things would be a whole lot worse. She did it anyway, did not listen to her dad then by sheer stupidity, made the post from her own laptop then had her own dad whom she posted badly about who is also an IT professional work on her computer for 6 hours upgrading it and adding new software to it. Then needless to say he finds the post after she deliberately took measures to to block her parents from seeing it. If they guy is an IT professional, I would only assume that in that $130 software upgrade he did, he would also likely installed key stroke tracking software that runs silently in the background without her knowledge. Before anyone is in a tizzy, technically the computer belongs to the dad because he bought and it paid for it with his own money. He only ALLOWS the daughter to use it, it is technically not her laptop. So if he wanted to run keystroke tracking software on his own computer that he allowed his daughter to use for schoolwork and for social networking with friends. Also the fact she is only 15 years old, soon to be 16, she is still a minor. When you are a minor, you have no privacy. She also has no job, therefore her dad gives her chores around the house to do to help the family run the household and even told the daughter if she got a job these chores would be reduced or even completely disappear. The father has now set some new standards for her: 1. She will get a new laptop when she buys a new a laptop after paying her father back for the $130 plus the nine bullets he put in the one he shot up. 2. When she breaks her cell phone, she will be required to pay for her own new cell phone. (he revealed she had already been through 4 droid phones because she keeps losing them or breaking them). 3. She WILL get a job one way or another. My suggestion - her stepmom owns and runs a veterinary clinic, why not force the girl to work there for wages just like the other employees, starting on her 16th birthday? Have her work a full 40 hours a week while juggling school as a high school student then see if the girl still thinks that doing minor chores and keeping up with school is 'freaking crazy'. Just when the girl thinks when she will be able to just buy her a new laptop and cell phone in a couple of weeks slap the girl with rent, car insurance, gas, maintenance and upkeep on vehicle, has to buy her own clothes, and whatever else she thinks she 'needs'. Pay her only minimum wage. The girl will soon find out that it will take her months and months to even come close to saving up enough money for a new laptop with everything she wants on it, new phone with everything she wants on it, a new dSLR camera she wants, AFTER she pays back her dad and paying her bills. The parents can even throw in an offer of 'extra money' if she does extra things around the house such as - taking Linda's place for a day for a whopping extra $5. That will teach her the value of hard work and a job well done. My daughter s 8 and she is currently learning that lesson by being required to work with me in the chicken houses every day after school as well as all day on Saturday, until all the money is paid back through labor. After her punishment is up I will have another heart to heart talk with her and offer her to work for her own wages on the farm if she so wishes to. This means she will get to have her own money that she earned herself to spend how she wishes. I think at that point she will have learned the value of work. __________________ Oh, you will. It is all a dream and since matter cannot be created nor destroyed, the dreams must be real in all their myriad forms. -Beowulf This Delicate Thing God Has Made *The world is measured in peasants; smaller than a unicorn but, bigger than a tidbit!*

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02-12-2012, 02:52 PM	#75 (permalink)
Steinhauer Banned Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 8,191 Blog Entries: 1	My parents required me to work when I was 15. I am glad they did it. Otherwise, I would have this mentality that I am too good for anything.

02-12-2012, 03:10 PM	#76 (permalink)
Steel X Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: The Carolinas/Rochester, NY. Posts: 13,824	Everyone need to think more clearly about the 15 yr old girl. Remember shes a teenager in high school..like many other teens, they can be difficult but at the same time they can get stressed and pressured between school homework and chores and everything else so the father should know that. The gun is NOT mean to be used in any situation except for self defense. Believe me I know how she feels...I was a teenager once too and I went through shit and I vent shit out alot like that and so her father is doing the same but this time with a gun included. What does that tell you? He's crazy.

02-12-2012, 04:44 PM	#79 (permalink)
kokonut Registered User Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 15,348	oooooohhh... __________________ Before AD. After AD. "Restriction on free thought and free speech is the most dangerous of all subversions. It is the one un-American act that could most easily defeat us." -Thurgood Marshall, former Supreme Court Justice "... turns out they are telling the truth."

02-14-2012, 08:14 AM	#87 (permalink)
UNYTruthHunters Registered User Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Liverpool, NY Posts: 125	Sally, please stop drinking the Kool Aid! The Liberals in this country has destroyed America because they do not believe in discipline. They are the ones usually want to take take take. They are the ones believe in spoiling and say, "Oh it is okay, you made a mistake, it is alright." It IS NOT alright to do that. Then that is what happens to America. Occupiers are acting this way with greed, not corporations. Today children are spoiled brat and taking advantage of the current liberal agenda with banning spanking (believe me, it did work for me when I was a kid and I got spanked!), and giving chores and limit what children can get with all of the technology. Thanks to the materialism of Christmas and Birthdays. That is why last Christmas I gave NO one presents. I only got ONE present that I do not need at all! Really! I do not have any children but would love to however, long story. Anyway, if I did or will have, I will NOT spoil my children with things and will be very strict. They will be given a good (still have it) typewriter to do papers for school and if she or he wants a computer. Like a car, wait till they are 18! Or 21. I could also do this way and I think many parents should modified computers so that it will not have internet explorier, no wifi, no cameras, etc. I have another computer here that is not connected to the net so I do not get it virus infected for my autoCAD drafting and designs. That is why I have another puter for that. So, maybe this guy should have taken out everything in his daughter's computer and just have MS Office or OpenOffice software. That is all. Another problem arise though. what about schools that have access to internet? I would tell my kids' school (I rather home schooling), that they are not to access to the net and must be fully supervised. I can also montior on FB, MS, etc what she has been doing. If caught, then ask the school to remove it or I would have to ask her for password to remove it even if I have to take her to court! Can do that! I clapped big time for this father for shooting the laptop. I believe it was his, not his daughter. He has rights to shoot it. He sure made my day! Haha.

02-14-2012, 09:58 AM	#89 (permalink)
kokonut Registered User Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 15,348	Like I said, until you have kids.....sometimes you get the roughest diamond among the lot where you may have to take unconventional means on the extra effort to polish it. __________________ Before AD. After AD. "Restriction on free thought and free speech is the most dangerous of all subversions. It is the one un-American act that could most easily defeat us." -Thurgood Marshall, former Supreme Court Justice "... turns out they are telling the truth."

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