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Unread 02-07-2012, 09:52 AM   #1 (permalink)
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American kids denied food stamps in Alabama under immigration law

Some U.S.-born children with parents who are illegal immigrants have been denied food stamps under Alabama's new immigration law, Southern Poverty Law Center President Richard Cohen told Yahoo News on Monday.

Five people have called into the group's Alabama hotline to say they were denied food stamps because they couldn't prove they were legal residents, even though the food stamps are for their children, who are citizens.

Cohen says the civil rights group, which has already filed two lawsuits against Alabama over the law, will most likely bring another suit over the denied food stamps.

The law makes it a felony for a government employee to engage in "business transactions" with illegal immigrants, which some government employees have interpreted very broadly. Illegal immigrants have been told they can't pay their utility bills or even their taxes because it would count as a "transaction" with the government, according to Cohen.

Barry Spear, a spokesman for Alabama's Department of Human Services, said in an email to Yahoo News that it is not the agency's policy to demand proof of citizenship from the guardians of Americans who need food stamps. "We are unaware of any violations of the policy," Spear said.

Several parts of the law have been temporarily blocked pending the 11th Circuit Court of Appeals decision on whether the law is constitutional or not. But the "business transaction" prohibition, as well as a mandate for local police to ask for proof of legal status during stops, were left to stand. Some Republican lawmakers say they want to amend the law this year, while a coalition of Democrats is trying to repeal it entirely.

Illegal immigrants are prohibited from accessing most welfare benefits, including food stamps, non-emergency Medicaid and cash welfare programs. Their children, if born in America, can access welfare programs as citizens. (The Pew Hispanic Center estimates that about 4.5 million American citizens under 18 years old have at least one undocumented parent.)

Last month, Kansas kicked more than 1,000 mixed-status families off its food stamp program when it joined three other states in adopting a stricter food stamp eligibility policy. A low-income family of five made up of two undocumented parents and three citizen children now has to show that its income is close to the poverty level for a family of three--not a family of five--in order to access food stamps. This is intended to prevent illegal immigrants from benefiting from food stamps, but immigration advocates say it will leave citizen kids hungry.

The Justice Department has sued Arizona, Alabama, South Carolina and Utah over laws that crack down on illegal immigrants, saying they interfere with the federal government's control over immigration. The Supreme Court will hear arguments over Arizona's SB1070 beginning on April 25.

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Unread 02-07-2012, 10:02 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Unread 02-07-2012, 10:16 AM   #3 (permalink)
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It is the children's fault?
No, it isn't!...And it's like a "catch 22" here....I feel sorry for those kids...then again angry at their parents. They are at fault here. Seems everywhere, they are cracking down on illegal food stamps, and the children are gonna suffer for it.
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then send them all to Canada and theyll get free health insurance too.

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If you are that worried about the children going hungry, send them YOUR money. Write them a personal check
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then send them all to Canada and theyll get free health insurance too.

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Nawww, just kill them all. Go ahead and say it.
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Funny how they can send food to starving children overseas.... but deny children that was born on US soil.
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yea and if one can't work, don't feed'em. off with SSI/SSDI!
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yea and if one can't work, don't feed'em. off with SSI/SSDI!
touché.
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touché.
yea I hate freeloaders and useless people. sorry but it's real life and resource is scarce. you can't/don't work? you don't get to eat. simple as that. has always been like that since day 1. even Christian/Catholic missionaries do this too.

(this is where common decency and logic fail on their parts. gotta love these ignorant bunch)
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Nawww, just kill them all. Go ahead and say it.
yeah, should have forced a partial birth abortion
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yea and if one can't work, don't feed'em. off with SSI/SSDI!
thats, different. When you work and pay into it, it entitles you to the benefits.

Moving into a country illegally and having kids you cant support is much different. They didnt pay into the system.

Also, a lot of illegals work for cash under the table. Having undeclared income, makes it easy for them to cheat the system.
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thats, different. When you work and pay into it, it entitles you to the benefits.

Moving into a country illegally and having kids you cant support is much different. They didnt pay into the system.

Also, a lot of illegals work for cash under the table. Having undeclared income, makes it easy for them to cheat the system.
Illegal is an adjective, not a noun.
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Caroline, why doesnt your country give free healthcare to illegal immigrants like america does? You guys need to be more progressive
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thats, different. When you work and pay into it, it entitles you to the benefits.

Moving into a country illegally and having kids you cant support is much different. They didnt pay into the system.

Also, a lot of illegals work for cash under the table. Having undeclared income, makes it easy for them to cheat the system.
you basically want to rip Fourteenth Amendment, Citizenship Clause, and most of Bill of Rights, right?

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since you're all about $$$$$... by your logic, I believe most of European immigrants did not pay tax in the first place.... so that means pretty much most of generations born in America are now "illegals" and should be stripped off citizenship.
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Caroline, why doesnt your country give free healthcare to illegal immigrants like america does? You guys need to be more progressive
in case you didn't know, illegal immigrants can only receive basic emergency medical attention in here and same in any modern countries.
in case you didn't know, illegal immigrants do not have healthcare under Obamacare and any welfare benefits.

you ask - but... but... but... they're still collecting our benefits and leeching off our system. how? simple - identity theft.
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Caroline, why doesnt your country give free healthcare to illegal immigrants like america does? You guys need to be more progressive
You think children of illegal immigrants who were born in your country should starve. All that food you're enjoying...who do you think picked the fruits, the vegetables, worked on large scale farms so you can have food on your table? Their parents. Don't preach to me about being progressive.

Firstly, our healthcare is not free. We pay for it through our taxes. Anyone who is a Canadian citizen is entitled to complete healthcare coverage and that coverage extends to their children.

Secondly, we don't deny healthcare to illegal immigrants at all. If they didn't pay for healthcare through Canadian taxes nor do they have legal Canadian citizenship, then it comes out of their pockets. Just like our so called "free" healthcare came out of legal Canadian citizens' pockets.

Back to the subject of illegal immigrants - here's something for you to think about:

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do you think foodstamps america gives out is free?

I say let the illegals of america self deport to Canada. America will give them a bus ticket to canada and you guys can welcome them with open arms.

Also, any sick american without health insurance will get a free bus fare to canada, and your doctors can heal them.

It will be called NAHC. North american health care

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You think children of illegal immigrants who were born in your country should starve. All that food you're enjoying...who do you think picked the fruits, the vegetables, worked on large scale farms so you can have food on your table? Their parents. Don't preach to me about being progressive.

Firstly, our healthcare is not free. We pay for it through our taxes. Anyone who is a Canadian citizen is entitled to complete healthcare coverage and that coverage extends to their children.

Secondly, we don't deny healthcare to illegal immigrants at all. If they didn't pay for healthcare through Canadian taxes nor do they have legal Canadian citizenship, then it comes out of their pockets. Just like our so called "free" healthcare came out of legal Canadian citizens' pockets.

Back to the subject of illegal immigrants - here's something for you to think about:

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See above post, Reba? Yes, I think racist hypocritical conservatives exist.
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All kids deserve to have good food. Period.
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Short and to the point. Love it and amen!
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yea I hate freeloaders and useless people. sorry but it's real life and resource is scarce. you can't/don't work? you don't get to eat. simple as that. has always been like that since day 1. even Christian/Catholic missionaries do this too....
The Bible verse (KJV) says, "if any would not work, neither should he eat." That doesn't mean can't work. It means those who refuse to work.

I'm not sure what you mean that even Christian/Catholic missionaries do this too. What "this" do you mean that they do?
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See above post, Reba? Yes, I think racist hypocritical conservatives exist.
As do racist hypocritical liberals and libertarians. Racist hypocrites come in all shapes and stripes.

BTW, the above post has other English usage errors, not just the one.
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See above post, Reba? Yes, I think racist hypocritical conservatives exist.
how am I a racist hypocrite?
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...Firstly, our healthcare is not free. We pay for it through our taxes. Anyone who is a Canadian citizen is entitled to complete healthcare coverage and that coverage extends to their children.
Are the children of illegal aliens who are born in Canada considered to be Canadian citizens?

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What if they don't have enough money in their pockets? Who pays the difference?
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2. unauthorized or prohibited by a code of official or accepted rules

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Are the children of illegal aliens who are born in Canada considered to be Canadian citizens?


What if they don't have enough money in their pockets? Who pays the difference?
Legal Canadian children don't pay out of their own pockets either.

Yes, children born to illegal immigrant parents in Canada are Canadian citizens. Our taxes take care of them. Of course. They are CHILDREN.
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