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Unread 02-05-2012, 08:35 PM   #121 (permalink)
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I'd rather discuss in terms of what parents *could* do for their kids (and themselves) when it comes to eating instead of saying on what they *should* do. Give them the alternatives to decide instead of brow beating them or heap guilt laden words.

Need to go and check on my meat-rich stew with carrots, green peppers, onions, and potatoes being cooked for tonight post-Superbowl game.
yeah you're right there, I was just concerned today when I saw what looked to be a 200 pound 8 year old
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Unread 02-05-2012, 08:40 PM   #122 (permalink)
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yeah you're right there, I was just concerned today when I saw what looked to be a 200 pound 8 year old
Yesterday, I was driving down a road, I saw a young girl. I would say maybe 8 or 9 years old. She was hopping, but also struggling at the same. She was panting and puffing while she was hopping across the road. Honestly, I'm not sure if I could even call it hopping, but she was trying her best to. I would say she weighs approximately 150 or more.
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Yesterday, I was driving down a road, I saw a young girl. I would say maybe 8 or 9 years old. She was hopping, but also struggling at the same. She was panting and puffing while she was hopping across the road. Honestly, I'm not sure if I could even call it hopping, but she was trying her best to. I would say she weighs approximately 150 or more.
Sounds like this 8 year old outweighs me and I'm 28!

Well when I move out and apply for assistance, food stamps will be one of them. I have already explained to my DD that we won't be buying junks and snacks to be left around like her grandparents do. We will be buying stuff like vegetables, fruits, lean meats, canned goods, and sandwhich stuff like bread, lunch meat, mayo, cheese, etc., then we buy healthy breakfast cereals like whole grain cheerios, or corn flakes, or something like that.

But here's a question how do you feel about people who purchase bagged salads, mac n' cheese in a box, or ramen noodles as quick sides to a meal?

I have to agree that you shouldn't be allowed to buy candy, sodas, and sweets with food stamps. That's not wise use of the assistance being provided to you. It chapped my rump when I was working at walmart in addition to working two other jobs while going to school when a snotty young black girl came through my line paying for an entire cart load of candy with her food stamp card. I had to bite my tongue on that one!
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You're free to buy all the junk food you want with your own money, but my tax dollars will not contribute to your obesity and poor health, which puts strains on healthcare, which in turn takes more of my tax dollars.
I agree with you on this topic. Sad part is that heathy food cost more than some of processed food. It is amazed me how much more at times.
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Unread 02-05-2012, 09:31 PM   #125 (permalink)
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Back in 1960's, obesity was less than 5% of population in USA but there were plenty of good bakery places and soda made with real sugar instead of HFCS.
How true that is. On top of that look how few gadget these people have compare to what they do now. Not only that people just seem more in shape by eat right portion size, heather eat style, moving more. Look how much children (adult too) are glue to compter, video games, and TV.

Also HFCS is terriable part thing to be listed as ingrendents. It is very hard to find food that does not have HFCS.
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Sounds like this 8 year old outweighs me and I'm 28!

Well when I move out and apply for assistance, food stamps will be one of them. I have already explained to my DD that we won't be buying junks and snacks to be left around like her grandparents do. We will be buying stuff like vegetables, fruits, lean meats, canned goods, and sandwhich stuff like bread, lunch meat, mayo, cheese, etc., then we buy healthy breakfast cereals like whole grain cheerios, or corn flakes, or something like that.

But here's a question how do you feel about people who purchase bagged salads, mac n' cheese in a box, or ramen noodles as quick sides to a meal?

I have to agree that you shouldn't be allowed to buy candy, sodas, and sweets with food stamps. That's not wise use of the assistance being provided to you. It chapped my rump when I was working at walmart in addition to working two other jobs while going to school when a snotty young black girl came through my line paying for an entire cart load of candy with her food stamp card. I had to bite my tongue on that one!
bagged salads are ok. mac and cheese in a box is ok on occasion. ramen noodles is empty calories.

Rice, potatoes and pasta noodles can go a long way on a small budget.
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Not to mention that tea bags can be used several times without having to dispose of it. That's how they used to do it back in the ol' days. Water is cheap, people should drink more of it, not soda drinks.
Amen!!! I drink a lot of water. I also do drink lot of tea (hot and cold). I tend to reuse my tea bags at lest two time for hot, then re use it for cold. Seems to work out just fine for me.

Plus you are right about Rice.
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bagged salads are ok. mac and cheese in a box is ok on occasion. ramen noodles is empty calories.

Rice, potatoes and pasta noodles can go a long way on a small budget.
They can go a long way, and the things you eat with them like tomato sauce can also be cheap and very good for you.
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broccoli,califlower and carrots for super bowl snacks.. most of you probably had ice cream and beer
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Well water or sulfur water...perhaps she needs to connect to city water. But sulfur water has a lot of iron in it and I remmy when I lived in the country with sulfur water, I gained weight.....Plus, if you dye ur hair, using the sulfur water turns it a different color. I had to use bottled water.
I my sister water is the city water. My governor want to put a tax on bottled water as he know so many people in Massachusetts buy bottled water ! If this does pass I am going to tax free New Hampshire and stock on bottled water and I will not be the only person doing this.
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The USA did not have the NAFTA and many other Free Trade agreements and more during the second World War. So even if you were to initiate a third World War, it still wouldn't stimulate the economy within the country. Did you know that during the second World War, the government took over many, many factories and converted them to build weapons?

Today, there aren't as many factories as there used to be.
My dad had a buckle factory and he made a lot of money during WW11 making
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Maybe the point is to teach kids to look at their own food and see what is good and what is not, and to help kids pressure their parents for healthy lunches.
You have to be joking!! My granddaughter is bugging her mom to give her junky snacks instead of healthy one. You're forgetting some kids parents are very poor and can't afford to give their kid a snack everyday. My point is it not the teacher job to stick her big fat nose into other people life. The schools and governments are trying to take too much control over people lives. How would like some stranger telling you how to feed or dress your child? It is not the teachers jobs to tell a child what they should eat! Maybe you don't mind having people telling you what to do but I sure don't. If my child was in that class I would had said something to the school.
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Your daughter should speak to the teacher, and if the teacher won't listen, then to the principal. That is very wrong for the teacher to do.

Teaching about good nutrition is one thing but going into the kids' lunches is another.
My daughter works at the school as a lunch lady and I think she feel uncomfortable saying anything. I would love to call the school and say something but my daughter would not like it. She is not as out spoken as I am.
My daughter think it a bad idea too. It is good to see someone feel the same as me! I am afraid this will setup some kids to be picked on too, you know how kids can be mean about the littlest thing. I feel really bad for kids that come from poor families and can't afford to buy fresh fruits or a snack for their child.
I think this teacher is using very poor judgement.
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Maybe the point is to teach kids to look at their own food and see what is good and what is not, and to help kids pressure their parents for healthy lunches.
Honestly, I think the teachers should mind their own business. They have no business looking at what the kids are eating. Let alone talking them into talking to their parents about it. If the child's eating habits is a real concern, then that should be brought to the attention of the school administration and make a decision on whether a social worker should be called in or not.
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I agree with you on this topic. Sad part is that heathy food cost more than some of processed food. It is amazed me how much more at times.
I keep hearing that the US government gives money to companies making things like chips, so they can make the chips cheap... I know they want companies to buy more corn from american farms, but why can't they subsidize healthier foods instead? Then American farms could grow healthier vegetables and fruits.
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I keep hearing that the US government gives money to companies making things like chips, so they can make the chips cheap... I know they want companies to buy more corn from american farms, but why can't they subsidize healthier foods instead? Then American farms could grow healthier vegetables and fruits.
Corn is heavily subsidized... and I mean heavily subsidized! That's why it's so cheap to make sugar out of it compared to cane sugar and other types of sugar.
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I hope Obama admin gets involved. Get the DOJ to strike down Florida food stamps law just like DOJ told South Carollina voter ID law they cant do it. Just like DOJ told Arizona you cant enforce illegal immingration only federal government can enforce it.
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I hope Obama admin gets involved. Get the DOJ to strike down Florida food stamps law just like DOJ told South Carollina voter ID law they cant do it. Just like DOJ told Arizona you cant enforce illegal immingration only federal government can enforce it.
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Well War does solve the economy. Just like it recovered back in the 40s.
War doesn't help the economy. That's the Broken Window Fallacy. It ignores the lost opportunity costs- money was spent on some businesses, but that only means that same money was NOT spent on other businesses where it might have been.
Who knows how many entrepreneurs who could have created jobs are cut down in their prime through war?

This also ignores the cost of unintended consequences.

And it requires false comparisons. You can't compare private sector employment, which contributes to the economy, with government sector employment, which depletes resources from the private sector. In WWII many private businesses suffered because they were unable to find employees or resources to continue to manufacture and sell their products.

Some of them turned to manufacturing for the government, but, again, this depleted private sector businesses.

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Maybe the point is to teach kids to look at their own food and see what is good and what is not, and to help kids pressure their parents for healthy lunches.
Welcome to Soviet Russia, then. It is certainly NOT the job of any creature of the state (which state employed teachers are) to meddle in what the family fixes for lunch and it really not their job to encourage kids to pressure their parents. Egad.

maybe the school should focus on reading, writing, math, and science literacy and let the kids and their parents apply that knowledge themselves.
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Sounds like this 8 year old outweighs me and I'm 28!

Well when I move out and apply for assistance, food stamps will be one of them. I have already explained to my DD that we won't be buying junks and snacks to be left around like her grandparents do. We will be buying stuff like vegetables, fruits, lean meats, canned goods, and sandwhich stuff like bread, lunch meat, mayo, cheese, etc., then we buy healthy breakfast cereals like whole grain cheerios, or corn flakes, or something like that.

But here's a question how do you feel about people who purchase bagged salads, mac n' cheese in a box, or ramen noodles as quick sides to a meal?

I have to agree that you shouldn't be allowed to buy candy, sodas, and sweets with food stamps. That's not wise use of the assistance being provided to you. It chapped my rump when I was working at walmart in addition to working two other jobs while going to school when a snotty young black girl came through my line paying for an entire cart load of candy with her food stamp card. I had to bite my tongue on that one!
Bagged salads should be ok, I don't buy them myself due to freshness and price but I have no problem with them at all.

Mac n'cheese I admit not the healthiest in a box but also not the worst, I do usually keep one pack in the back of the pantry somewhere.

Ramen noodles a staple of college living and I would prefer to keep those back in my college days but I won't argue with it because for a cheap side you can also toss some steamed veggies and meats into the mix to make it really delicious and healthy, my fiance loves ramen noodles with peppers, peas, spinach and chicken or beef.

As long as they're not the entire meal every day of the week then I say knock yourself out cause I do it too sometimes. Though from what I've seen people my age do with their kids, it's usually not a sometimes thing, it's an every night thing as an entire meal not the side, which makes me worry about the kids.
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Welcome to Soviet Russia, then. It is certainly NOT the job of any creature of the state (which state employed teachers are) to meddle in what the family fixes for lunch and it really not their job to encourage kids to pressure their parents. Egad.

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My daughter works at the school as a lunch lady and I think she feel uncomfortable saying anything. I would love to call the school and say something but my daughter would not like it. She is not as out spoken as I am.
My daughter think it a bad idea too. It is good to see someone feel the same as me! I am afraid this will setup some kids to be picked on too, you know how kids can be mean about the littlest thing. I feel really bad for kids that come from poor families and can't afford to buy fresh fruits or a snack for their child.
I think this teacher is using very poor judgement.
I agree with you. It's not right to penalize kids for their parents' food choices.

My daughter would be in that teacher's face in a flash. She's, um, very assertive.
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Bagged salads should be ok, I don't buy them myself due to freshness and price but I have no problem with them at all.

Mac n'cheese I admit not the healthiest in a box but also not the worst, I do usually keep one pack in the back of the pantry somewhere.

Ramen noodles a staple of college living and I would prefer to keep those back in my college days but I won't argue with it because for a cheap side you can also toss some steamed veggies and meats into the mix to make it really delicious and healthy, my fiance loves ramen noodles with peppers, peas, spinach and chicken or beef.

As long as they're not the entire meal every day of the week then I say knock yourself out cause I do it too sometimes. Though from what I've seen people my age do with their kids, it's usually not a sometimes thing, it's an every night thing as an entire meal not the side, which makes me worry about the kids.
When I cook Mac and cheese, I usually have grilled chicken breast, steamed veggies, and about 1 cup of Mac n cheese.

As for ramen noodles I usually mix in a bag of mixed vegetables, and chopped chicken breast. It's a one-dish meal when I make it. I may or may not cook some type of bread with it, depending on my mood.

Other good but cheap meals I like- elbow macaroni with tomato soup mixed together. Side of one or two garlic chicken tenders or some type of sandwich.

Another I've recently discovered is chili-Mac it's cheap and very easy to make but downside is that it's not the most nutritious. This would be more like a once a week easy meal if I can't be bothered with cooking a full meal.

I also like just cooking some ground beef and throw in some taco mix and have lettuce, tomatoes, onions, Spanish rice, and beans and wheat taco shells and have tacos. One taco will fill you up so this could be used as war overs for 2-3 days. An alternative is exchanging the beef for black beans and rice as filling.

There's lots of meals you can come up with that are cheap yet healthy for you. I want to try grilled fruits and vegetables this summer when it warms up if I can get a small grill. I also think there's nothing better than a burger made off an outdoor grill. Yum. Block party at my place this summer!!
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bagged salads are ok. mac and cheese in a box is ok on occasion. ramen noodles is empty calories.

Rice, potatoes and pasta noodles can go a long way on a small budget.
Ramen noodles aren't any more empty in calories than white rice or pasta. It's how they are cooked. If you just make the noodles and nothing else, that's empty calories, but add an egg and or some diced vegetables and you can get a full meal for about .50 cents.

We use them to make vegetable and noodle fritters for lunch.


Of course, the flavor packet is frankenfood, so I prefer to make the fritters from leftover spaghetti noodles.
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Most people I know don't add anything to Ramen noodles but the flavouring packet which is full of sodium and MSG. That stuff is really bad for you. So, that's why I don't recommend it. But yeah, of course if you add healthy stuff to it and don't use the flavouring packets, it's fine. If there's a Chinatown wherever you live, get the noodles there, way way cheaper, same for rice and any other Asian ingredients.
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Steve, the unemployment rate has fallen to 8.3%. Almost 250,000 new jobs were created this month. the stock market is rallying very well, in fact, so well that the Dows had its highest close in 4 years.

The price of gold fell this week, another sign of confidence in the American dollar which is linked to the strength of the US economy.

Right now, the US economy is recovering, not declining.
I see you left out the "real unemployment" figures, the debt and gas prices.... Looks like you are drinking Obama's snake oil flavored Kool aid.
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I see you left out the "real unemployment" figures, the debt and gas prices....
I'm encouraged by the drop in gold prices, but there is more to the unemployment figures:
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Once again, the civilian labor force participation rate has declined, from 64 percent to 63.7 percent in a single month. Since January 2009, it has declined from 65.7 percent, resulting in approximately 4.7 million people no longer being counted towards the unemployment rate. If they were included, the real rate of unemployed working age adults would be 11.01 percent, and the underemployed would be 17.6 percent.

Overall, that includes the 12.7 million people that BLS says are actually unemployed, and then 4.7 million who have given up looking for work, plus another 10.5 million who can’t find full-time work. All together, there’s 28 million working age adults who simply cannot find work in the Obama economy.
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1. If the size of the U.S. labor force as a share of the total population was the same as it was when Barack Obama took office—65.7 percent then vs. 63.7 percent today—the U-3 unemployment rate would be 11.0 percent.

2. But let’s not go all the way back to January 2009. In January 2011, the unemployment rate was 9.1 percent with a participation rate of 64.2 percent. If that were the participation rate today, the unemployment rate would be 8.9 percent, instead of 8.3 percent. As an analysis from Hamilton Place Strategies concludes, “Most of the shift of the past year is due not to the improvement in the labor market, but the continued drop in participation in the labor force.”

3. Now, to be fair, some of the decline in the participation rate is aging Baby Boomers dropping out of the labor force. But taking that into account still doesn’t get us very far, as HPS notes:

Demographic projections expect that participation rate to be at 65.3 percent. If that full participation rate is the goal, our economy is “missing” 3.8 million workers, up from the 3.4 million we noted in the white paper. The unemployment rate in that context has not budged at 10.4 percent.

4. Then there’s the broader, U-6 measure of unemployment which includes the discouraged plus part-timers who wish they had full time work. That unemployment rate is still a sky-high 15.1 percent.
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Bottom line: The unemployment rate is dropping because economic growth continues to be so anemic that nearly 4 million Americans have quit looking for work and have been disappeared by the Labor Department. This still isn’t much of a recovery.
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I see you left out the "real unemployment" figures, the debt and gas prices.... Looks like you are drinking Obama's snake oil flavored Kool aid.
It's yum yum delicious. You must have had some too since you said you're voting for this guy next term.

So, what do you think is the actual unemployment rate?

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