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Unread 02-04-2012, 01:03 PM   #61 (permalink)
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BLAME BUSH! For Screwing up the economy!
BLAME BUSH! why unemployment is so high
BLAME BUSH! for this useless war in IRAQ!


And i get $30 a month cause that all the government would give me.
BLAME OBAMA! for why you only get 30$
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Unread 02-04-2012, 01:26 PM   #62 (permalink)
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Just food for thought (literally): of all the substances that humans willingly consume, sugar is probably one of the major killers in this country behind alcohol and tobacco. So many diseases and conditions are linked to high sugar intake, from diabetes to obesity to cancer. It is also proven that sugar is addictive. The only difference I see between sugar and alcohol/tobacco is that it is not mind/behavior-altering.

"Regulating" sugar would be an impossible task, since it is a major food ingredient, so I don't see how it would ever fall under complete control of the government. At the same time, a much more stern position needs to be taken on sugar--both from the government and from society in general.
Alcohol and tobacco are both major health issues. Both are regulated heavily. The core of my argument is the excuse to tax. And they would use health as an issue and reason to tax food that contain sugar (e.g. candy, soda, etc) in the effort to try and curb people from not buying or eating sugary food because of the additional expense.


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Sugar is as damaging and addictive as alcohol or tobacco and should be regulated, claim US health experts.

According to a University of California team, new policies such as taxes are needed to control soaring consumption of sugar and sweeteners.

Prof Robert Lustig argues in the journal Nature for major shifts in public policy.

Industry body the Food and Drink Federation said "demonising" food was unhelpful.

Several countries are imposing taxes on unhealthy food; Denmark and Hungary have a tax on saturated fat, while France has approved a tax on soft drinks.

Now, researchers in the US are proposing similar policies for added sugar and sweeteners, amid concern about the amount of sugar in the diet.
BBC News - Sugar tax needed, say US experts
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And i get $30 a month cause that all the government would give me.
Out of curiosity, why do you believe you should have more?
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Alcohol and tobacco are both major health issues. Both are regulated heavily. The core of my argument is the excuse to tax. And they would use health as an issue and reason to tax food that contain sugar (e.g. candy, soda, etc) in the effort to try and curb people from not buying or eating sugary food because of the additional expense.




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Well, it seems not work because government need stop subsidizing on corns, one of them that lead to making of HFCS. If sugars are too expensive so they could switch to alternative like HFCS that still bad for you.

The obesity rate is much lower in many countries, especially Europe and I think that obesity is more blamed on fatty, oily food that what most fast food serve like that.

You shouldn't take sugar solely as big issue for obesity.
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Back in 1960's, obesity was less than 5% of population in USA but there were plenty of good bakery places and soda made with real sugar instead of HFCS.
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Back in 1960's, obesity was less than 5% of population in USA but there were plenty of good bakery places and soda made with real sugar instead of HFCS.
Portion sizes were also much smaller back then. Portions have nearly doubled in size in the last 25 years.
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And i get $30 a month cause that all the government would give me.
There is a certain amount of $$ that you can receive each month that determines how much food stamps you will get. You can check online to find out for ur state....

I personally know of one woman that has a disabled son and only receives SSI and gets only $10 dollars for food stamps. She does get Medicaid for her and her son, and just lives slightly below poverty. Each and every case is different. She does not have internet or cable, gets a free phone tho'. And to top it off, has no car now. So there are people suffering worser in this world. I would suggest to check your States limit amount ($$), to see if you qualify for more.
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Also back then the parents watch out for what the kids ate and how much. Today the kids buy their own and eat whatever they feel like. I'll admit that parents today are not the best of role models for eating properly.
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Also back then the parents watch out for what the kids ate and how much. Today the kids buy their own and eat whatever they feel like. I'll admit that parents today are not the best of role models for eating properly.
Come to think of it, I blame the baby boomers for everything.
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All i ask is between $100-$150 a month to make ends meet because my bills and food prices have gone up. Not to mention Sales taxes is making things expensive just like the Gas Tax is doing to a gallon of gasolene. So tell me whats the loophole around paying Sales taxes on sodas? This is why i have to Re-Elect Obama because if he can get the DOJ to knock down Floridas law on you cant use Sodas on food stamps just like he got the DOJ to knock down South Carrolinas voter ID law.
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All i ask is between $100-$150 a month to make ends meet because my bills and food prices have gone up. Not to mention Sales taxes is making things expensive just like the Gas Tax is doing to a gallon of gasolene. So tell me whats the loophole around paying Sales taxes on sodas? This is why i have to Re-Elect Obama because if he can get the DOJ to knock down Floridas law on you cant use Sodas on food stamps just like he got the DOJ to knock down South Carrolinas voter ID law.
Why don't you figure out ways to eat cheaper before you go whine about needing more assistance? When I was in grad school, I spent less than 150$ a month for food, and I ate like a king. I made all my meals from scratch. I barbecued every weekend--cheap cuts of meat like boston roasts, cooked low n slow. I brewed my own beer and saved tons on alcohol. It can be done fairly simple; you just need to apply yourself.

You have the internet. Start off by Googling: "How to make rice and beans."

You like soda? Make it yourself. It can be done, and it will taste a lot better.
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Why don't you figure out ways to eat cheaper before you go whine about needing more assistance? When I was in grad school, I spent less than 150$ a month for food, and I ate like a king. I made all my meals from scratch. I barbecued every weekend--cheap cuts of meat like boston roasts, cooked low n slow. I brewed my own beer and saved tons on alcohol. It can be done fairly simple; you just need to apply yourself.

You have the internet. Start off by Googling: "How to make rice and beans."

You like soda? Make it yourself. It can be done, and it will taste a lot better.
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Rice is cheap to buy in bulk and they last you quite a long time. A lot of people living in poverty always buy huge bags of rice, at least they should anyway. Rice is great because you can mix it with pretty much anything.
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All i ask is between $100-$150 a month to make ends meet because my bills and food prices have gone up. Not to mention Sales taxes is making things expensive just like the Gas Tax is doing to a gallon of gasolene. So tell me whats the loophole around paying Sales taxes on sodas? This is why i have to Re-Elect Obama because if he can get the DOJ to knock down Floridas law on you cant use Sodas on food stamps just like he got the DOJ to knock down South Carrolinas voter ID law.
Yes, the prices of bills and food prices have gone up - for everyone.

You are worried about being able to buy soda? Food Stamps was made for people who were worried about going hungry. If you are only worried about buying soda - maybe you don't need Food Stamps at all. Drink water instead, or make instant tea - you can make a crapload for $4

If I work for my money and I can't afford soda, I don't really agree that Food Stamps should give others soda using my tax money.
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Yes, the prices of bills and food prices have gone up - for everyone.

You are worried about being able to buy soda? Food Stamps was made for people who were worried about going hungry. If you are only worried about buying soda - maybe you don't need Food Stamps at all. Drink water instead, or make instant tea - you can make a crapload for $4

If I work for my money and I can't afford soda, I don't really agree that Food Stamps should give others soda using my tax money.
Not to mention that tea bags can be used several times without having to dispose of it. That's how they used to do it back in the ol' days. Water is cheap, people should drink more of it, not soda drinks.
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Agree....and also there are Churches and charity organizations that can help. Having too many bills?...that's not the government's fault...If you have a car, cable and internet....consider urself lucky, because many people on food stamps don't have that....Catch the bus like a million other people do, cut the cable and internet and you'll have more $$ to spend on food.
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Agree....and also there are Churches and charity organizations that can help. Having too many bills?...that's not the government's fault...If you have a car, cable and internet....consider urself lucky, because many people on food stamps don't have that....Catch the bus like a million other people do, cut the cable and internet and you'll have more $$ to spend on food.
Just in my honest opinion, I believe internet is something the deaf should be able to have. This way, they can stay in touch with the others. With no internet or phone, your chances of securing a job is greatly reduced. You have to be able to communicate somehow. If people on welfare can get a cell phones, I don't see why the deaf can't have a choice in picking either a cell phone or an internet connection.
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Just in my honest opinion, I believe internet is something the deaf should be able to have. This way, they can stay in touch with the others. With no internet or phone, your chances of securing a job is greatly reduced. You have to be able to communicate somehow. If people on welfare can get a cell phones, I don't see why the deaf can't have a choice in picking either a cell phone or an internet connection.
I think the internet should be a tax deduction for hoh/deaf citizens.
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Im with you 100% on that. And besides you cant make Pepsi Max. Just like you cant make ur own beer nether. You know how hard it is to make beer? Look how the brewery makes beer


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Seltzer water and club soda are less expensive than soda and you can add ruit juices to it for a "soda". I use lemon and lime juice in seltzer water and get a drink almost like Sprite with less sugar and for a lot less money. I feed my family of 5 (that includes 2 teenagers) on $140 a week. That's a little high, but I still have to pack a lunch for hubby, and hubby and I have special dietary needs. I also have to make sure mother has certain things. When she applied for Food Stamps, she only got $16 a month and they would only let her have them for 6 months, then dropped her. When we first moved to Florida and applied for food stamps, I got approved and got $200 a month. They dropped me and the family after 3 months. I wasn't worried since it didn't go far enough and hubby got a job. Not much of one, but at least he is working.
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My first job was popcorn girl at a movie theatre - soda is just syrup and carbonated water. One of my tasks was to hook up big plastic tubs filled with soda syrup to the drink machine. You can make your own soda. Maybe look up recipes on the net for soda syrup.

I often buy club soda and mix it with my juice to cut down the sugar content.
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Seltzer water and club soda are less expensive than soda and you can add ruit juices to it for a "soda". I use lemon and lime juice in seltzer water and get a drink almost like Sprite with less sugar and for a lot less money. I feed my family of 5 (that includes 2 teenagers) on $140 a week. That's a little high, but I still have to pack a lunch for hubby, and hubby and I have special dietary needs. I also have to make sure mother has certain things. When she applied for Food Stamps, she only got $16 a month and they would only let her have them for 6 months, then dropped her. When we first moved to Florida and applied for food stamps, I got approved and got $200 a month. They dropped me and the family after 3 months. I wasn't worried since it didn't go far enough and hubby got a job. Not much of one, but at least he is working.
$140 is not too bad, I know a family of seven and they spend an average of at least $1,300 a month on food. It's probably at least $1,500 by now. I think they spend way too much on food.
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Im with you 100% on that. And besides you cant make Pepsi Max. Just like you cant make ur own beer nether. You know how hard it is to make beer? Look how the brewery makes beer

How It's Made: Beer - YouTube

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No offense, but you don't know what you're talking about. You are posting links of commercial-scale brewing. I am talking about homebrewing. Youtube "homebrew" and see what turns up.

I make my own beer. I make 10 gallon batches (that's equivalent to about 110 bottles of beer) for 45$ because I buy supplies in bulk. I could get the cost even lower if I grew my own hops and saved my yeast cultures. If I did that, the total cost would fall to around 30$. And this is premium, excellent quality beer.

120$ can get you a starter kit with all the equipment and ingredients you need. Your first batch of beer that will produce 50 bottles. All you really need is water and a stove. Batch of ingredients from then on will be about 35$ for 5 gallons. As in all consumables, when you buy in bulk, you will save more money.
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All i ask is between $100-$150 a month to make ends meet because my bills and food prices have gone up. Not to mention Sales taxes is making things expensive just like the Gas Tax is doing to a gallon of gasolene. So tell me whats the loophole around paying Sales taxes on sodas? This is why i have to Re-Elect Obama because if he can get the DOJ to knock down Floridas law on you cant use Sodas on food stamps just like he got the DOJ to knock down South Carrolinas voter ID law.
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Yes, the prices of bills and food prices have gone up - for everyone.

You are worried about being able to buy soda? Food Stamps was made for people who were worried about going hungry. If you are only worried about buying soda - maybe you don't need Food Stamps at all. Drink water instead, or make instant tea - you can make a crapload for $4

If I work for my money and I can't afford soda, I don't really agree that Food Stamps should give others soda using my tax money.
Wrong ! The food stamps program was started to help farmers. Farmers where having a hard time and the government came up with the food stamps program to get more people to buy more food from farmers.
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I think the internet should be a tax deduction for hoh/deaf citizens.
I had Comcast take over my telephone service and I asked them before they came to my house if I would lose my internet as it was on Verizon line. Comcast told I would not lose my internet . And I did! I was so pissed off! I called Comcast and told that I am HOH and they shut of my commutation to my famliy and friends as they some time find it easier to 'talk' to me by e mails.
Comcast paid me back all the money I paid as they realize I was right . I did tell Verizon I should get a discount on my internet service because I am HOH and use it to communicate to my famliy and friends a lot. I can't wait until my granddaughter is able to send me emails as I have a real hard understanding her on the phone.
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I am a baby boomer and I raise my daughter on a vegetarian diet and made all her baby food . I made my own granola, pizzas and candy for my child.
She did not get any junk food , we had no sodas or chips of any kinds in the the house. My child only got candy on a special occasion.
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Come to think of it, I blame the baby boomers for everything.
Well almost everything. I got in the faces of my Mom and Dad because of Social Security. I told them it was their generation that allow Congress to borrow left and right from S.S.to where today S.S. is one huge mess.
As I've said before, once you get that snowball rolling down the hill it is almost impossible to stop it. Someone had to start it.
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Not understanding here....what's a big, strapping, muscular guy, who threatens to knock people out cold...and seemingly in good health, able to work and find a job....applying for food stamps?....Even asking for "extra help?"....

Knowing you live with Mom & Dad also....(and in your 30's...no baby here!)....no bills....(but stated once that you had "bad credit")....so, more than likely, you were given the opportunity to buy something, then you refused to pay for it!.....sleep late....watch a lot of ball games....are able to go out and spend money on junk foods....and still want the government to give you food stamps and extra help?...In my opinion, that's a sorry excuse for a man.....
Listen here... before you make an ass out of yourself again, look up Extra Help... it's a program to help people save money... get a clue. I dont know why you're obsessed with my life...it's scary and I might have to cancel my account here. Nothin wrong livin a peaceful life...
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What we need is World War III. For those didnt remember the great depresson my granny told me all about those days. She didnt live that bad like other lived. When she was young had my dad when he was a little boy She lived in Charleston WVA. When my Grand dad got the pink slip got laid off they wouldnt paying off their morgage. They couldnt barely make ends meet.Then all the suddan after Peral Harbor news My grand dad got drafted into the Army he fought the japs in the pacific islands. My Grandmother had an Job offer in Baltimore Md. Making beer at the National Brewing company.She sold her home bought a row house in Baltimore City.Meanwhile my grand dad was fighting in the war and he heard the news bout my grand ma. So when War ended he got employed in the National Brewing company My grand ma had to quit and take his place cause that was the rules back then. Then my grand parents moved in neigborhood in Baltimore County. All because of the war bought the economy back. You might heard a story about an one armed baseball player Pete Gray. See the Army wouldnt take him so all those Major League players were at war and he played for St Louis Browns.
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So thats the answer to recovering economy. When Government needs Tanks,Bombs,Ships and Planes they employ almost everybody. So im really hoping for Russia,China or IRAN start some crap with us put 10 million men with guns and granades And fight!! And people like me can go off to work make some real money.
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