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Unread 12-11-2011, 06:53 PM   #271 (permalink)
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you have a point there though I recall that many of the offenders were in their 50s and 60s.. There's not a lot of young people where I live.
And, at that age, what do you want to bet that it involved a victim from their own family, or someone they had a close friendship with?
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Unread 12-11-2011, 06:54 PM   #272 (permalink)
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You need to keep in mind that "sex offender" is very, very broad, and could include an 18 year old and a 15 year old having consensual sex.

The sex offender registry is really just another way to provide a false sense of security to the general public. How often is someone that is registered as a sex offender picked up and found to be guilty of another case. In this case, they questioned the sex offenders registered and living in the area and could find no connection to this crime. That is what happens 99 out of 100 times. In the meantime, kids are being sexually assaulted at an ever increasing rate. It's because everyone is so concerned about protecting their kids from the strangers on the registry, but not too concerned about protecting them from family members and friends. Family members and friends are the most likely perpetrator in a child sexual assault.
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Unread 12-11-2011, 06:54 PM   #273 (permalink)
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And, at that age, what do you want to bet that it involved a victim from their own family, or someone they had a close friendship with?
Most likely family or someone they knew.
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Unread 12-11-2011, 06:55 PM   #274 (permalink)
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Most likely family or someone the knew.
That is the case in the vast majority of cases. Very few of these crimes are committed by strangers.
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Unread 12-11-2011, 11:57 PM   #275 (permalink)
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But that's kind of the point. If I lived next door to a sex offender, I would want to know it, and not accept neighborly offers to "look after the kids for you" from such a neighbor.

Going by the bios of the sex offenders I clicked on that were relevant to my areas, there were no "18 year old with a 15 year old" type of situation. The men were mostly in their 40's, 50's, and 60's, and victims were mostly age 6 to 13 or so.
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But that's kind of the point. If I lived next door to a sex offender, I would want to know it, and not accept neighborly offers to "look after the kids for you" from such a neighbor.

Going by the bios of the sex offenders I clicked on that were relevant to my areas, there were no "18 year old with a 15 year old" type of situation. The men were mostly in their 40's, 50's, and 60's, and victims were mostly age 6 to 13 or so.
Just because there were none in your area doesn't mean it doesn't occur.

I would suggest never leaving your children with a neighbor unless your neighbor happens to be someone you have known for many years and are aware of their history. No need to check the sex offender registry. The ones that are the most risk are the ones that aren't on the registry because they have never been arrested and convicted.
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Unread 01-19-2012, 07:19 PM   #280 (permalink)
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Well that's that. I guess people are glad to get what they wanted.
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He didn't even last 48 hours. I would think new prisoners are under suicide watch ... whoever slipped up ....
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Well - in my opinion, I don't like suicide, but I guess he just couldn't handle what he did or the thought of life behind bars. Well, hope he thought of what he did to that poor child.
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Nobody is a winner in this but at least he wont harm any more children.
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He hung himself:

Ryan Brunn dead; hanged himself, 11Alive source says | 11alive.com

didn't they take his shoe laces?
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Unread 01-19-2012, 10:54 PM   #287 (permalink)
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didn't they take his shoe laces?
where did it say he hung himself with shoe laces?
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where did it say he hung himself with shoe laces?
It doesn't. But Sheriff Roger Garrison told the DoC to put him on suicide watch - they take stuff away from you that you can hang yourself with when put you on suicide watch (your shoe laces being one such item).

I am guessing he was never put on suicide watch and had his shoelaces.

The other question I have is ... where was he able to hang himself from - prison cells are designed to prevent hangings.
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I'd like to say I feel bad for him - but I don't. I feel sorry for his family, if they cared about him at all.

I don't know how a 20 year old gets as depraved as he was, to rape and torture and kill a little girl. Who knows if he committed suicide due to being overwhelmed by guilt, or horror at himself, or at the thought of spending perhaps the next 60 years of his life in jail and thinking death would be a far easier thing to do than that. Or a combination of all of the above.

All over now. They will investigate, and he will end up being barely a footnote in history, while the little girl's family will miss her forever.
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It doesn't. But Sheriff Roger Garrison told the DoC to put him on suicide watch - they take stuff away from you that you can hang yourself with when put you on suicide watch (your shoe laces being one such item).

I am guessing he was never put on suicide watch and had his shoelaces.

The other question I have is ... where was he able to hang himself from - prison cells are designed to prevent hangings.
why are you obsessing over shoe laces? it's not the only thing you can hang yourself with. there are blanket, tshirt, pants, etc. and you can hang yourself with bed frame or sink.

articles stated that it was unclear whether or not if he was in suicide watch room.
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I'd like to say I feel bad for him - but I don't. I feel sorry for his family, if they cared about him at all.

I don't know how a 20 year old gets as depraved as he was, to rape and torture and kill a little girl. Who knows if he committed suicide due to being overwhelmed by guilt, or horror at himself, or at the thought of spending perhaps the next 60 years of his life in jail and thinking death would be a far easier thing to do than that. Or a combination of all of the above.

All over now. They will investigate, and he will end up being barely a footnote in history, while the little girl's family will miss her forever.
according to his testimony, he stated he never raped her. just that he beat her senselessly and cut her throat. I vomited (in my head) as I read his testimony.
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why are you obsessing over shoe laces? it's not the only thing you can hang yourself with. there are blanket, tshirt, pants, etc. and you can hang yourself with bed frame or sink.

articles stated that it was unclear whether or not if he was in suicide watch room.
Those items are taken away from a prisoner on suicide watch (as I previoulsy mentioned).

You are still missing the big picture. The DoC was told by Sheriff Roger Garrison to put him on suicide watch.
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Those items are taken away from a prisoner on suicide watch (as I previoulsy mentioned).

You are still missing the big picture. The DoC was told by Sheriff Roger Garrison to put him on suicide watch.
source please? you have a history of misunderstanding any articles so I'd like to read it for myself to insure the accuracy of what has transpired.
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source please?
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Most child predators were sexually abused as children. That is no excuse because a person can choose to get help and heal. I'm saying that sexual abuse is rampant in our society and we are failing to protect the most vulnerable--primarily children and the elderly.

BG, if someone offers to keep your kids, ask why the person is so anxious to be helpful. My kids are never left alone with coaches, scout leaders, etc. Unfortunately, some predators use this positions to groom children for sexual abuse. The same with violent or mentally unstable family members.
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source please? you have a history of misunderstanding any articles so I'd like to read it for myself to insure the accuracy of what has transpired.
You have a history of being confrontational and putting words in people's mouths. I would think it wasn't intentional but we both know better don't we?


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already gave it.
let's see - your last 2 sources.

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Cherokee County Sheriff Roger Garrison told Channel 2 Action News on Thursday night that he had asked the DOC for special treatment of Brunn, who was considered a “high risk inmate.”

But Garrison also told the station, a reporting partner of The Atlanta Journal-Constitution, that Brunn had never attempted suicide while being held in the Cherokee Jail.
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"Typically someone comes into custody and its a case of this nature, as a matter of precaution, the detention center will have them on watch for their own safety," Burns said.

It is was not immediately known whether or not Brunn was on such a watch at the Jackson State Prison.
yep. as usual - you have misunderstood these articles.

shoe laces? suicide watch? no such mention in these articles.
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You have a history of being confrontational and putting words in people's mouths. I would think it wasn't intentional but we both know better don't we?

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putting words in people's mouths? what? seriously? where?

I'm only interested in FACTS. what you said is not a fact.
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putting words in people's mouths? what? seriously? where?

I'm only interested in FACTS. what you said is not a fact.
What you have said is not factual. Blah blah blah - the rubber-glue argument again?

Brunn was on suicide watch at the Cherokee County Jail - when transferred, the Sheriff releases that information to the prison officials transferring the prisoner, and "COMMON SENSE" dictates that the prisoner would continue to be put on suicide watch.

Why we are even having this discussion is beyond me.
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