Woman Alleges 13 Year Affair with Cain - Page 2

**Jiro** · 11-29-2011, 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Steinhauer

I am not going to say he didn't cheat on his wife. I am also not going to say he did. So far, these are allegations. Allegations are not evidence of guilt.

therefore aliens.

**Jiro** · 11-29-2011, 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Steinhauer

Cain has decided to stay in the race.

really? where did you get that info from?

latest I know - he is currently reassessing his Presidential bid. His staff has been slimmed down.

Cain Plans "Assessment" of Campaign - Fox News

jillio · 11-29-2011, 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Jiro

really? where did you get that info from?

latest I know - he is currently reassessing his Presidential bid. His staff has been slimmed down.

Cain Plans "Assessment" of Campaign - Fox News

Kind of pointless to stay at this point, I would say.

His whole conservative platform has been blown completely out of the water.

jillio · 11-29-2011, 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Steinhauer

Speaking of comments flying straight over people's heads .... I am wondering how Cain would have been able to cover up a lengthy affair while having stage 4 colon cancer. Seems she fabricated her story ... Big shocker there.

Cain has decided to stay in the race.

How exactly is his dishonesty regarding his sexual trysts related to having colon cancer? One thing has virtually nothing to do with the other.

Yeah, everyone's a big fat liar except Cain. Yeah, that's the ticket! Let's go with that one, Jethro. Surely some moron will believe it.

jillio · 11-29-2011, 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Beowulf

Five women coming forth IS evidence.

Absolutely. It would be enough to call for his execution if he were a Democratiic candidate.

But because he is a Repub, the conservatives just keep turning a blind eye. And then they want to call themselves well informed as voters. Only if well informed means ignoring the obvious.

**saywhatkid** · 11-29-2011, 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Steinhauer

Speaking of comments flying straight over people's heads .... I am wondering how Cain would have been able to cover up a lengthy affair while having stage 4 colon cancer. Seems she fabricated her story ... Big shocker there.

Cain has decided to stay in the race.

Just for kicks, I will throw this out there. I know, Obama the Muslim is in charge. Yeah, he is trying to destroy America so the Arabs can control the wheat market. Obama will be home grillin' foals for his peeps. The debt is all his fault. We gotta protect those tax cuts so we can...can...help those guys make more billions, so they....they...can send more work overseas. Yeah, that's it! Enjoy, from New York Times...

whatdidyousay! · 11-29-2011, 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Jiro

really? where did you get that info from?

latest I know - he is currently reassessing his Presidential bid. His staff has been slimmed down.

Cain Plans "Assessment" of Campaign - Fox News

I heard a reporter asked Cain if he was dropping out of the race and Cain answered back "999, we're doing fine!" CRAP ! I was hoping he would drop out as I am sick of hearing about the women that he may messed around with!
This has nothing to do with the real problem our country are facing. My realtor taxes just when up and I do not pay a higher sale on top of this! Cain is out of touch with what some people are going through.

**saywhatkid** · 11-29-2011, 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by whatdidyousay!

I heard a reporter asked Cain if he was dropping out of the race and Cain answered back "999, we're doing fine!" CRAP ! I was hoping he would drop out as I am sick of hearing about the women that he may messed around with!
This has nothing to do with the real problem our country are facing. My realtor taxes just when up and I do not pay a higher sale on top of this! Cain is out of touch with what some people are going through.

But he is in touch with his litigation team.

Steinhauer · 11-29-2011, 09:35 PM

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January 25, 2011
Jeffrey H. Anderson is a former professor of American government and political philosophy at the U.S. Air Force Academy and the director of the Benjamin Rush Society.

In his State of the Union address tonight, President Obama will reportedly issue a call for "responsible" efforts to reduce deficits (while simultaneously calling for new federal spending). In light of the President's expected rhetorical nod to fiscal responsibility, it's worth keeping in mind his record on deficits to date. When President Obama took office two years ago, the national debt stood at $10.626 trillion. It now stands at $14.071 trillion — a staggering increase of $3.445 trillion in just 735 days (about $5 billion a day).

To put that into perspective, when President George W. Bush took office, our national debt was $5.768 trillion. By the time Bush left office, it had nearly doubled, to $10.626 trillion. So Bush's record on deficit spending was not good at all: During his presidency, the national debt rose by an average of $607 billion a year. How does that compare to Obama? During Obama's presidency to date, the national debt has risen by an average of $1.723 trillion a year — or by a jaw-dropping $1.116 trillion more, per year, than it rose even under Bush.

In fairness, however, Obama can't rightly be held accountable for the 2009 budget, which he didn't sign (although he did sign a $410 billion pork-laden omnibus spending bill for that year, which is nevertheless tallied in Bush's column). Rather, Obama's record to date should really be based on actual and projected spending in fiscal years 2010 and 2011 (plus the $265 billion portion of the economic "stimulus" package, which he initiated and signed, that was spent in 2009 (Table S-10), while Bush's should be based on 2002-09 (with the exception of that same $265 billion, which was in no way part of the 2009 budgetary process).

How do Bush and Obama compare on closer inspection? Just about like they do on an initial glance. According to the White House's Office of Management and Budget, during his eight fiscal years, Bush ran up a total of $3.283 trillion in deficit spending (p. 22). In his first two fiscal years, Obama will run up a total of $2.826 trillion in deficit spending ($1.294 trillion in 2010, an estimated $1.267 trillion in 2011 (p. 23), and the $265 billion in "stimulus" money that was spent in 2009). Thus, Bush ran up an average of $410 billion in deficit spending per year, while Obama is running up an average of $1.413 trillion in deficit spending per year — or $1.003 trillion a year more than Bush.

Obama, of course, has said the economy made him do it. But the average inflation-adjusted deficits through Obama's first two fiscal years will be more than ten times higher than the average inflation-adjusted deficit during the Great Depression. Even as a percentage of the gross domestic product, the average deficits in Obama's first two fiscal years will more than three times higher the average deficit during the Great Depression. The fact that Obama's deficits have, by any standard, more than tripled those of the Great Depression, cannot convincingly be blamed on the current recession.

And none of this even takes into account Obamacare, which the Congressional Budget Office says would increase spending by more than $2 trillion in its real first decade (2014 to 2023) — and which, even under very rosy projections, the CBO says would increase the national debt by $341 billion by the end of 2019.

It's not often that one gets to hear a call for "responsible" fiscal stewardship from someone whose deficit spending is outpacing President Bush's by more than $1 trillion a year — yet that's apparently what we'll get to hear tonight. But President Obama's actions tell another, far clearer, story about his commitment to deficit reduction.

The Weekly Standard: Obama Vs. Bush On Debt : NPR

Also would like to add that even Biden admitted the ruined state of the economy is Obama's fault - not Bush.

spin, spin, spin.

**Jiro** · 11-29-2011, 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Steinhauer

The Weekly Standard: Obama Vs. Bush On Debt : NPR

Also would like to add that even Biden admitted the ruined state of the economy is Obama's fault - not Bush.

spin, spin, spin.

this is related to this thread... how?

**saywhatkid** · 11-29-2011, 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Jiro

this is related to this thread... how?

Hush, don't interrupt us. We are trying to make a thread about Obama out of this thread about Cain.

jillio · 11-29-2011, 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by whatdidyousay!

I heard a reporter asked Cain if he was dropping out of the race and Cain answered back "999, we're doing fine!" CRAP ! I was hoping he would drop out as I am sick of hearing about the women that he may messed around with!
This has nothing to do with the real problem our country are facing. My realtor taxes just when up and I do not pay a higher sale on top of this! Cain is out of touch with what some people are going through.

Fine = f***ed up, insecure, neurotic, and emotional. Yep. Cain is fine, all right.

Steinhauer · 11-29-2011, 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Jiro

this is related to this thread... how?

Your post ... related to this thread how?

jillio · 11-29-2011, 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Steinhauer

The Weekly Standard: Obama Vs. Bush On Debt : NPR

Also would like to add that even Biden admitted the ruined state of the economy is Obama's fault - not Bush.

spin, spin, spin.

This is thread about Cain...you know the other Black guy.

jillio · 11-29-2011, 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Steinhauer

Your post ... related to this thread how?

Related to this thread in that it is questioning the logic and thought process you engaged in when you posted an Obama reference in a thread about Cain.

**Jiro** · 11-29-2011, 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Steinhauer

Your post ... related to this thread how?

I am asking you how your post about Obama's national debt is related to this thread which is about woman's allegation of having affair with Cain for 13 years.

**saywhatkid** · 11-29-2011, 09:44 PM

Grrr, I am starting to hate this site. Tired of losing posts.

**saywhatkid** · 11-29-2011, 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Steinhauer

The Weekly Standard: Obama Vs. Bush On Debt : NPR

Also would like to add that even Biden admitted the ruined state of the economy is Obama's fault - not Bush.

spin, spin, spin.

Right. If you look at the graph, Bush's tax cuts alone are more than everything Obama has done. However, I am not gonna debate with you, because it is pointless. Like trying to tell a 13 year old girl that Justin Beiber is not "all that" it is an exercise in futility. Hey, floodgates are open. Take the spotlight off of Pizza Man and put it back on the Muslim!

Steinhauer · 11-29-2011, 09:49 PM

How much of that spending did Obama contribute to AIDs research in Africa?

**Jiro** · 11-29-2011, 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Steinhauer

How much of that spending did Obama contribute to AIDs research in Africa?

is this a silly attempt to derail this thread?

Steinhauer · 11-29-2011, 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Jiro

is this a silly attempt to derail this thread?

The short answer is "no".

**saywhatkid** · 11-29-2011, 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Jiro

is this a silly attempt to derail this thread?

Absolutely. We need to bash Obama some more. And defend him. You know the drill. When a topic makes Cain look bad, we call in the Muslim Mauling Militia of Mental Midgets! Must divert.

**Jiro** · 11-29-2011, 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Steinhauer

The short answer is "no".

what's the long answer?

jillio · 11-29-2011, 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Steinhauer

How much of that spending did Obama contribute to AIDs research in Africa?

Focus, Steiny, focus. This thread is about Herman Cain. Not Obama. Take a deep breath and try to focus. I know it's difficult for you not to rant and ramble all over the place. We understand that dissing Obama is your all time favorite activity. But you are in the grown up world now. You need to try to act like a grown up and learn to stay on topic in conversations.

Steinhauer · 11-29-2011, 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by jillio

Focus, Steiny, focus. This thread is about Herman Cain. Not Obama. Take a deep breath and try to focus. I know it's difficult for you not to rant and ramble all over the place. We understand that dissing Obama is your all time favorite activity. But you are in the grown up world now. You need to try to act like a grown up and learn to stay on topic in conversations.

Woman Alleges 13 Year Affair with Cain

Which came first, the chicken or the egg?

Steinhauer · 11-29-2011, 10:37 PM

Who is Ginger White? - The Washington Post

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According to Georgia court records, she has been given eviction notices at least five times by landlords seeking back rent. A former business partner, Kimberly Vay, sued White earlier this year after a dispute that began when White wrote disparaging comments about Vay in a mass e-mail — comments that White recanted four months later as part of a legal settlement. The two women fell out after a fitness business they ran together collapsed.

“She came back and stated that everything she stated in the e-mail was completely false,” Vay said in an interview. “She admitted to making it all up out of anger and frustration.”

Gee - unlike some of the other forum members ... I can actually post a link without even having to be asked .... numerous times .... like someone acting like a 5 year old throwing a temper tantrum ...

jillio · 11-29-2011, 10:40 PM

Here we go again with the paternalistic, sexist attempt to lay all the blame on the woman by trying to dig things totally unrelated up from her past. Frankly, that is a coward's game. A non-defense. Cain can't be defended, so instead you attempt to distract like a child that cries, "But mommy, look what Joey did!" Such immaturity and cowardice.

jillio · 11-29-2011, 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Steinhauer

Who is Ginger White? - The Washington Post

Gee - unlike some of the other forum members ... I can actually post a link without even having to be asked .... numerous times .... like someone acting like a 5 year old throwing a temper tantrum ...

Your links are :bsflag:

Hey, Steiny, you want to gain credibility, go back and answer all the questions that were asked about your outrageous claims yesterday.

Yo would do well to even read your own links. More often than not, they are used to prove you wrong. Again and again and again and again.

**Jiro** · 11-29-2011, 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Steinhauer

Who is Ginger White? - The Washington Post

Gee - unlike some of the other forum members ... I can actually post a link without even having to be asked .... numerous times .... like someone acting like a 5 year old throwing a temper tantrum ...

from your link -

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Her ex-husband, John White, 45, said he had no knowledge of the alleged affair between Ginger White and Cain. “It wouldn’t surprise me either way,” John White said.

Steinhauer · 11-29-2011, 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by jillio

Your links are :bsflag:

Hey, Steiny, you want to gain credibility, go back and answer all the questions that were asked about your outrageous claims yesterday.

Yo would do well to even read your own links. More often than not, they are used to prove you wrong. Again and again and again and again.

Your champion was proven a liar in court.

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White also agreed to pay Vay’s legal fees but eventually stopped making her monthly payments, leading to the lawsuit, Vay said.

Ginger White’s attorney, Edward Buckley, did not respond to requests for comment Tuesday.

White declined to elaborate on her statements during a brief interview with the Associated Press at her apartment in the Atlanta suburbs Monday night. “I can’t make any comment on this,” she said. “We’re trying to be slightly sensitive.”

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jillio Banned Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 60,296	Here we go again with the paternalistic, sexist attempt to lay all the blame on the woman by trying to dig things totally unrelated up from her past. Frankly, that is a coward's game. A non-defense. Cain can't be defended, so instead you attempt to distract like a child that cries, "But mommy, look what Joey did!" Such immaturity and cowardice. deafskeptic likes this.

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