Look out for the crackheads, lol

jillio · 11-01-2011, 07:55 PM

No, thousands of "crackheads" aren't going to start flooding America's streets Tuesday.

That's just one of several myths that have surrounded the U.S. Sentencing Commission's vote in June to make federal sentence reductions retroactive for current prisoners convicted of crack possession or use.

What happens Tuesday is that some eligible federal prisoners who have petitioned for reduced sentences under rules Congress passed last year can begin being released. Those rules sought to address a disparity that meant crack offenders were given the same mandatory five-year minimum sentence as were offenders in possession of 100 times as much powder cocaine.

Open Channel - No, 'crackheads' aren't coming to get you

**deafskeptic** · 11-01-2011, 07:58 PM

I'm glad to hear that. I always thought the crack heads got unfair sentencing compared to cocaine users.

jillio · 11-01-2011, 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by deafskeptic

I'm glad to hear that. I always thought the crack heads got unfair sentencing compared to cocaine users.

Absolutely. And I think we both know why the sentencing for crack is more extreme than for powder cocaine.

rockin'robin · 11-01-2011, 08:40 PM

Oh boy!...."Crackheads"...or "Basers"....(that's what they're called)....I've got good locks on my doors...maybe I should think about getting some more now....Reminds me of that movie "New Jack City" with Wesley Snipes.....

jillio · 11-01-2011, 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by rockin'robin

Oh boy!...."Crackheads"...or "Basers"....(that's what they're called)....I've got good locks on my doors...maybe I should think about getting some more now....Reminds me of that movie "New Jack City" with Wesley Snipes.....

I don't think you have much to worry about.

***naisho*** · 11-01-2011, 09:03 PM

Everytime I see crackhead, I think of Tyrone Biggums:

jillio · 11-01-2011, 09:07 PM

Sunshine · 11-01-2011, 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by jillio

Absolutely. And I think we both know why the sentencing for crack is more extreme than for powder cocaine.

Why?

posts from hell · 11-01-2011, 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by sunny_signs

Why?

Elitism I think.

Sunshine · 11-01-2011, 09:19 PM

Not understand at all.

posts from hell · 11-01-2011, 09:21 PM

Cocaine is considered "High society" and you know how the "winks winks" go in the higher uppers.

Sunshine · 11-01-2011, 09:22 PM

Ohhhhhhhhhh. Duh Sun.

**Dixie** · 11-01-2011, 09:48 PM

I know some coke users and they don't come from money either. They are just as strung out as any other hard core drug user. Unfortunately, one of them is in my family.

**TXgolfer** · 11-01-2011, 09:51 PM

I went through 128 ounces of Coke in one day once. whew

**Banjo** · 11-01-2011, 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by TXgolfer

I went through 128 ounces of Coke in one day once. whew

416 gram of sugar... quite the sugar fix!

**Dixie** · 11-01-2011, 10:11 PM

Nevermind - I can see this is going to turn into a mockery.

**TXgolfer** · 11-01-2011, 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Banjo

416 gram of sugar... quite the sugar fix!

No Doubt!

jillio · 11-02-2011, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Sunshine

Why?

Because of the population that is believed to use crack and the population that uses powder cocaine. Social stratification with a greater degree of punishment being leveled toward the poor and people of color.

jillio · 11-02-2011, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Dixie

I know some coke users and they don't come from money either. They are just as strung out as any other hard core drug user. Unfortunately, one of them is in my family.

We are talking about social policy and perception and the way it creates inequities in the laws, not individual drug users.

jillio · 11-02-2011, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Dixie

Nevermind - I can see this is going to turn into a mockery.

Of course it is. We unfortunately have a member or two that is incapable of discussing anything intelligently and are constantly attempting to demonstrate their great wit. Shame they don't see they are not appearing to be witty at all, but rather, very shallow and needy.

jillio · 11-02-2011, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Banjo

416 gram of sugar... quite the sugar fix!

Diabetic dementia may be at play.

jillio · 11-02-2011, 10:33 AM

What a shame that those who claim to be so politically aware and concerned are not interested in correction of inequities in the justice system. Oh, well. A bigot is a bigot is a bigot.

**Banjo** · 11-02-2011, 11:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jillio

We are talking about social policy and perception and the way it creates inequities in the laws, not individual drug users.

Agreed, the laws regarding drugs vary quite wildly.

posts from hell · 11-02-2011, 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jillio

Because of the population that is believed to use crack and the population that uses powder cocaine. Social stratification with a greater degree of punishment being leveled toward the poor and people of color.

To provide a visual:

**deafskeptic** · 11-02-2011, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by posts from hell

To provide a visual:

Hmm That's a good one.

jillio · 11-02-2011, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by posts from hell

To provide a visual:

Thank you!

A pefect example of the disproportionate nature of sentencing.

**Banjo** · 11-02-2011, 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by jillio

Thank you!

A pefect example of the disproportionate nature of sentencing.

I see it all of the times, it's a real shame that the rich often get away with a lot more than the poor.

**Banjo** · 11-02-2011, 01:58 PM

Not also to mention that Caucasians often are given far, far less harsh sentences than the African-Americans are.

jillio · 11-02-2011, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Banjo

Not also to mention that Caucasians often are given far, far less harsh sentences than the African-Americans are.

The vast majority of the time. It accounts for the racial disparity in our prisons.

11-01-2011, 07:55 PM	#1 (permalink)
jillio Banned Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 60,296	Look out for the crackheads, lol No, thousands of "crackheads" aren't going to start flooding America's streets Tuesday. That's just one of several myths that have surrounded the U.S. Sentencing Commission's vote in June to make federal sentence reductions retroactive for current prisoners convicted of crack possession or use. What happens Tuesday is that some eligible federal prisoners who have petitioned for reduced sentences under rules Congress passed last year can begin being released. Those rules sought to address a disparity that meant crack offenders were given the same mandatory five-year minimum sentence as were offenders in possession of 100 times as much powder cocaine. Open Channel - No, 'crackheads' aren't coming to get you

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rockin'robin Registered User Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Jacksonville, Florida Posts: 15,658	Oh boy!...."Crackheads"...or "Basers"....(that's what they're called)....I've got good locks on my doors...maybe I should think about getting some more now....Reminds me of that movie "New Jack City" with Wesley Snipes.....

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Dixie May I be found in Him Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Arkansas Posts: 13,266	Nevermind - I can see this is going to turn into a mockery. __________________ Oh, you will. It is all a dream and since matter cannot be created nor destroyed, the dreams must be real in all their myriad forms. -Beowulf This Delicate Thing God Has Made *The world is measured in peasants; smaller than a unicorn but, bigger than a tidbit!*

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jillio Banned Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 60,296	What a shame that those who claim to be so politically aware and concerned are not interested in correction of inequities in the justice system. Oh, well. A bigot is a bigot is a bigot.

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