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Unread 07-15-2011, 09:30 PM   #61 (permalink)
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I sure do. I also believe Casey Anthony killed her daughter.
When Jiro asked you the question about if the skinhead did this to the Bonta Family? You said "I sure DO" But then you want to add that Casey Anthony killed her daughter which is entirely different thing as you are not thinking about the Bonta Family at all.

You are just want to continue to express your hatred against Casey Anthony just because she got free, even if she killed her daughter. That is what the court is for to prove for her innocent or reasonable doubt. It is up to the jury panel to decide whether to put her in jail or let her go as there is no evidence to prove her case. Right now we are talking about the hate crime that cause Bonta Family to fear about their lives. They are not dead. Just lucky to be alive. They need protection for their lives from the skinheads.

If you want to continue talking about Casey Anthony, then you need to put a new thread about her. Simple as that.

I never understand why you do like this without thinking.
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Unread 07-15-2011, 09:39 PM   #62 (permalink)
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People need to grow up and get over with Casey case. There people are worse than her! What about people who abuse their children? they are worse than Casey. You are selfish people.
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The way to fix these "skinheads" is simple sentence them to 12 months home dention to a old school foundational white nationalist compound.

Where they will taught that racial segregation has to be voluntaries

These groups require hard labour as well
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hate crime? Non-sense! Skinheads shouldn't be punished more severely for their deliberate target of those inferior people who demand "special rights."

*just parroting what conservatives are really saying*
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hate crime? Non-sense! Skinheads shouldn't be punished more severely for their deliberate target of those inferior people who demand "special rights."

*just parroting what conservatives are really saying*
Oh, what a sick person you are. So you think it is all right for the Skinheads to beat up with the baseball bats and other weapons on the innocent family. The Bonta Family did not do anything to them. That does not make any sense. If there was a video in the gas station store, then there might be evidence to show that the white men did this to the people. So you mean that the Bonta Family don't have any rights to the questions which should be asked by the police or if the Family want to know what happened to their car or a family member was not getting any medical care to treat his wounds from jail.

I don't care about the conservatives being that they want their rights as much as the natives. But that just too bad as we were here million of years. The whites have been bringing the rules from England even if they are free at the time but still it is the same old rules from England or Spain. No change at all. We never own or had taxes on our lands like that. If they are going to abuse us for having brown skins and different cultures, then the whites are no better than we are. Geeze. I am mad already.
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Oh, what a sick person you are...

I don't care about the conservatives being that they want their rights as much as the natives...
I think you misunderstood my message. I am just paraphrasing what social conservatives are really saying; I am ridiculing those who think that "hate crime" is wrong because it's "special rights" for minorities.

I believe people who commit "hate crime" should be punished more severely.
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I think you misunderstood my message. I am just paraphrasing what social conservatives are really saying; I am ridiculing those who think that "hate crime" is wrong because it's "special rights" for minorities.

I believe people who commit "hate crime" should be punished more severely.
All right, now that you are clarifying the quotes to me clearly. Okay, I am sorry that I misunderstood what you mentioned on the previous post. You are right that the Skinheads are 100% wrong for what they did to the Bonta Family.

On the bold statement, I agree with you on this.
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Neo-nazi skinheads attacking on Native American Indians in U.S. of A? Native Indian tribes took over North America first many, many, many thousands of centuries before the Whites arrived. Skinheads can play, **** around in Germany and various countries in Northern Europe, not here in USA. ::just throwing sarcasm in this::
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interesting that their daughter is "white"....
Sigh...her mother is white. A half breed. I don't know what word do you call for a person who is born to full Native Indian parent and full Anglo-Saxon white parent that fits the description? Kevin Costner is white but is not white at all, but also half Native Indian just like the young woman in the picture.

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I couldn't bear to read that skinheads threatened the parents they would rape their half Native Indian daughter. I hope these filthy skinheads get raped in the butt in prison, period.

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People need to grow up and get over with Casey case. There people are worse than her! What about people who abuse their children? they are worse than Casey. You are selfish people.
Yeah, tell me about it. One guy from DVTV made a very good point on the part between Casey Anthony and the abortions. When she was announced not guilty, millions of people got outraged over her walking free for killing her daughter whilst millions do not get upset over abortions which babies were killed in the operation at the clinics. Why are they being the difference? I think it's kind of stupid for people getting angry at Casey for murdering her child. I was not upset about the result, but was just disgusted more at how the ridiculously corrupted laws were on Casey Anthony's case trial. Whatever happened to the polygraph that never had been brought up?

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I am shocked to read the articles from Indian Country Today about what happened to the Bonta Family. Here we are as Native Americans being prejudiced as always by white people as looking at us as savages, river monsters and even ****** (we are not blacks) just because our skins are brown. We have been invaded and abused by white people for more than 500 years (actually thinking that we have been abused around 700 years in Canada and South America). I really never understand why they have no respect for us, Aboriginal people and Black people including the Jewish people, when they want to destroy all of us just so that they can have a pure white nation. This is power over us. That is discrimination and hate crime for doing that.

I hope the Bonta Family can fight for their rights to be human and citizens of United States as they have been here for millions of years. I think the skinheads are just jealous of them for being who they are. I don't know. I am also wondering if one of the skinhead might be learning the wrong way from his father. It is like brainwash telling the kids that they should not respect any brown or black skin people and that it is okay to beat them up.
Because it is us the Whites are ****ing idiots who destroyed the generations of Native Indians in the North America. I mean, blame it on Christopher Columbus who led the next European settlements to took over everything on what were belonged to the Natives. Caused Tribes dying from smallpox epidemic. Whites took the millions of Native tribe souls, now look at how much remains of them alive today under (10 percent?) Big Shame on us. No wonder why there hasn't any one Native President since yet. We the whites should go back to Europe, I would but I would be alone, where is my family and friends? Oh. great all of 'em are here in USA...*thank you and **** you (not you Bebonang) very much to my generations.* I still don't undersand why whites are still perscuting Natives in so many unfair ways nowadays since more than 5 centuries now. They don't ****ing own this land. Cleansing ethnic and Assilimation on Native Tribes should have been banned by a law a waaayyyy long time ago
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This is another example to prove that USA (I don't know much about Canada, how Canada treat Native Canadian Indian Tribes nowadays) still don't respect and don't give a **** about Native Tribes and their Tribunal Councils in America.

State of Oregon and Child Support hurt me for 9 years*|*Native Warrior*|*DeafVIDEO.TV

You may skip it to 3:50

By the way, I think my old post somewhere in other thread, about the reason why I don't vote and don't hang US flag, and don't wear anything in red, blue and white clothing. It is good thing I wasn't brainwashed anymore some years ago.
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This is another example to prove that USA (I don't know much about Canada, how Canada treat Native Canadian Indian Tribes nowadays) still don't respect and don't give a **** about Native Tribes and their Tribunal Councils in America.

State of Oregon and Child Support hurt me for 9 years*|*Native Warrior*|*DeafVIDEO.TV

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By the way, I think my old post somewhere in other thread, about the reason why I don't vote and don't hang US flag, and don't wear anything in red, blue and white clothing. It is good thing I wasn't brainwashed anymore some years ago.
I'm wondering how much authority a Tribal Court has. Poor guy.
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Well, what you can tell is that America is being controlled much more power by within stronghold dominates than Tribes law is because of, obviously, the Whites.

That video issue part reminds me of America Gov't granted millions of dollars to the Tribes after last 400 years sufferings from them for taken their lands, wars, their lives, their culture, and their happiness. However, Tribes went downward spiral thru depression, used it up spending on alcohols. It's no excuse...Hope that NativeWarrior76 doesn't end up like this after State of Oregon pay it back a lot of money to him after his suffereing years for nothing.
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Well, what you can tell is that America is being controlled much more power by within stronghold dominates than Tribes law is because of, obviously, the Whites.
Yep. It's too bad he isn't white, or he would get media attention and the legal problems resolved to his satisfaction.
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When Jiro asked you the question about if the skinhead did this to the Bonta Family? You said "I sure DO" But then you want to add that Casey Anthony killed her daughter which is entirely different thing as you are not thinking about the Bonta Family at all.

You are just want to continue to express your hatred against Casey Anthony just because she got free, even if she killed her daughter. That is what the court is for to prove for her innocent or reasonable doubt. It is up to the jury panel to decide whether to put her in jail or let her go as there is no evidence to prove her case. Right now we are talking about the hate crime that cause Bonta Family to fear about their lives. They are not dead. Just lucky to be alive. They need protection for their lives from the skinheads.

If you want to continue talking about Casey Anthony, then you need to put a new thread about her. Simple as that.

I never understand why you do like this without thinking.
I was actually talking about a contradiction that these skinheads are being labelled as "guilty" when there has been absolutely no trial and no charges pressed against them.

The contradiction should be quite clear ... but I will explain it again.

Casey Anthony was found "not guilty" in a court of law, even though 67% of the American population believes she is guilty. Even the judge who ruled in the case stated he was shocked by the verdict - meaning even he believed Casey Anthony is guilty. Several of the jury members came forward and publicly stated they did not believe Casey Anthony was innocent.

Not innocent? Meaning they believed she was guilty?

There are no shades of gray in guilt or innocence ... you either did something, or you didn't.

So, with the overwhelming evidence pointing the fact that Casey Anthony is actually guilty, believed to be guilty by the majority of the American population, believed to be guilty by the judge in the case, and even several jury members believe she was "not innocent" - you still have people defending her and claiming she is innocent, and get this .... because she was not proven guilty in a court of law.

Those same people turn right around and claim these skinheads are guilty ... when there has been absolutely no trial, and no charges.

That is the contradiction - you may interpret it as me hating Casey Anthony, but it would not be a correct interpretation.
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This is interesting. I have a family in that area. I know that "white" girl. She is full blooded indian even if she looks white. It's also a common thing that we experience. There is a lot of racism towards black people but the racism towards indian is more brutal. It's disturbing. When I lived on a reservation, there was a white cop who loved to pick on me because I'm deaf. I was hurt few times too. The American government is very corrupt.
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Right. Gangs are more about territory.
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hate crime? Non-sense! Skinheads shouldn't be punished more severely for their deliberate target of those inferior people who demand "special rights."

*just parroting what conservatives are really saying*
We don't care. We aren't asking for anything. In fact we rejected government's help many, many times. They promised us land but take land later. See? That is why we want nothing and do not ask for special rights. We just want peace and to be left alone. White people don't understand peace, they think taking our stuff is peace.
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Yep. It's too bad he isn't white, or he would get media attention and the legal problems resolved to his satisfaction.
Yeah, I hope he deserves to win, it may be some years to get over it. These polices who mistreated him, must be fired immediately. They don't deserve to keep their job in power to abuse like that.
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Casey Anthony was found "not guilty" in a court of law, even though 67% of the American population believes she is guilty. Even the judge who ruled in the case stated he was shocked by the verdict - meaning even he believed Casey Anthony is guilty. Several of the jury members came forward and publicly stated they did not believe Casey Anthony was innocent.

Not innocent? Meaning they believed she was guilty?

There are no shades of gray in guilt or innocence ... you either did something, or you didn't.

So, with the overwhelming evidence pointing the fact that Casey Anthony is actually guilty, believed to be guilty by the majority of the American population, believed to be guilty by the judge in the case, and even several jury members believe she was "not innocent" - you still have people defending her and claiming she is innocent, and get this .... because she was not proven guilty in a court of law.

Those same people turn right around and claim these skinheads are guilty ... when there has been absolutely no trial, and no charges.

That is the contradiction - you may interpret it as me hating Casey Anthony, but it would not be a correct interpretation.
There is one difference you are overlooking here; she was tried in court, and found not guilty "beyond reasonable doubt" by a jury. That does not mean innocent; it means that the evidence presented did not convince jurors 100%. Opinions mean nothing in a courtroom. It is the votes of the jurors that matter. How they "feel" is not the same as reaching a verdict.

The skinheads have not gone to trial yet. Any comments people are making about the case are purely opinions. There is no trial yet, no jury, no attorneys presenting evidence. People are basing their opinions on articles released by the media.

I recall many Conservatives do not trust the MSM to give unbiased reports. Many Liberals do not trust FoxNews. Has that changed? Should someone be found guilty by trial through the media?

I will certainly follow this case through trial. If they are guilty, I hope they are punished to the fullest extent allowed. However, I do not make judgment on these suspects until the trial.
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This is interesting. I have a family in that area. I know that "white" girl. She is full blooded indian even if she looks white. It's also a common thing that we experience. There is a lot of racism towards black people but the racism towards indian is more brutal. It's disturbing. When I lived on a reservation, there was a white cop who loved to pick on me because I'm deaf. I was hurt few times too. The American government is very corrupt.

Yeah, hate groups are gangs.
Actually, there is a distinction between those groups labeled "gangs" and those lableled "hate groups". If there wasn't a difference, we would not use two different terms to describe them.
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Actually, there is a distinction between those groups labeled "gangs" and those lableled "hate groups". If there wasn't a difference, we would not use two different terms to describe them.
White gangs like KKK, Neo-nazi, skinheads, etc. are territorial. They believe the world is made only for white people. That's territorial.

Street gangs believes one block belongs to them. This is the same thing.

Hate groups are gangs. Don't like it? Take it up to English.

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There are four kinds of "gangs" which were predecessors of the street gangs of today. 1. Secret Societies; 2. Gangs of Outlaws in the Wild West; 3.Racist gangs like the Klu Klux Klan; and 4. "Voting Gangs" tied mainly to the Democratic Party in large cities.
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  2. a group of youngsters or adolescents who associate closely, often exclusively, for social reasons, especially such a group engaging in delinquent behavior.
  3. a group of people with compatible tastes or mutual interests who gather together for social reasons: I'm throwing a party for the gang I bowl with.
  4. a group of persons working together; squad; shift: a gang of laborers.
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White gangs like KKK, Neo-nazi, skinheads, etc. are territorial. They believe the world is made only for white people. That's territorial.

Street gangs believes one block belongs to them. This is the same thing.

Hate groups are gangs. Don't like it? Take it up to English.
No, you are confused. What you are calling "territorial" is, in reality, racial, not territorial. Territorial is what is found with the gangs that defend a certain geographical location as being the "turf" of that particulat gang.

Your name is Google. Use it. Better yet, open a text book. There is a distinct difference between groups identified as "hate groups" and those identified as "gangs".
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No, you are confused. What you are calling "territorial" is, in reality, racial, not territorial. Territorial is what is found with the gangs that defend a certain geographical location as being the "turf" of that particulat gang.

Your name is Google. Use it. Better yet, open a text book. There is a distinct difference between groups identified as "hate groups" and those identified as "gangs".
I'm sorry but which part of the world is not a territory? It is a certain geographical location.

Last time I checked, street gangs were racist as well. Anyone remember Black Panthers? Hell, even the infamous Blood, Crips, Latin Kings, etc were created to combat racism originally. They are of course territorial.

Read the dictionary before trying to define a word to verify your thoughts. Especially when you place a period after a quote.
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I'm sorry but which part of the world is not a territory? It is a certain geographical location.

Last time I checked, street gangs were racist as well. Anyone remember Black Panthers? Hell, even the infamous Blood, Crips, Latin Kings, etc were created to combat racism originally. They are of course territorial.

Read the dictionary before trying to define a word to verify your thoughts. Especially when you place a period after a quote.
I fail to see the connection between Gang and Hate group. A hate group does violence to cause injury, often without regard to any financial reward. A gang commits violent crimes for financial gain. Protecting turf is part of that financial gain. How often do we read about KKK selling crack? Sponsoring prostitutes? How often do we hear about the Crips publishing a magazine to espouse their views?

BTW, get off the grammar Nazi thing.
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I fail to see the connection between Gang and Hate group. A hate group does violence to cause injury, often without regard to any financial reward. A gang commits violent crimes for financial gain. Protecting turf is part of that financial gain. How often do we read about KKK selling crack? Sponsoring prostitutes? How often do we hear about the Crips publishing a magazine to espouse their views?

BTW, get off the grammar Nazi thing.
KKK does indeed do criminal activities like any street gangs you think of. Going by the documentary I watched few months ago, they were using prostitutes to fund their weapons, cabins, meetings, and so on. There was drug trade as well.

A group is a gang. A gang is a group. There you go, that's the connection.
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I'm sorry but which part of the world is not a territory? It is a certain geographical location.

Last time I checked, street gangs were racist as well. Anyone remember Black Panthers? Hell, even the infamous Blood, Crips, Latin Kings, etc were created to combat racism originally. They are of course territorial.

Read the dictionary before trying to define a word to verify your thoughts. Especially when you place a period after a quote.
You are still very confused. Oh, well.
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KKK does indeed do criminal activities like any street gangs you think of. Going by the documentary I watched few months ago, they were using prostitutes to fund their weapons, cabins, meetings, and so on. There was drug trade as well.

A group is a gang. A gang is a group. There you go, that's the connection.
Fallicious logic. Typical mistake of one who does not have understanding regarding the issue they are attempting to speak about.
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