Breaking News! CNN announces Osama Bin Laden is Dead ! - Page 8

***naisho*** · 05-02-2011, 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Chevy57

You know how the U.S. military was able to confirm the identity of Bin Laden? They matched his DNA with a sample from his sisters brain which they collected when she died last several years ago.

Don't worry they don't need to do anything else to prove he is dead. They are already did or will do the Dna analysis and it is 100% foolproof.

They already have the DNA from his family.
Proof is here: U.S. Asks Bin Laden Family For DNA Samples - ABC News

It would only take 5-7 hours to run 1 test. Take out one piece from anywhere on his body, a hair cell, a skin cell, a tongue cell, whatever.
Run a PCR (Polymerase chain reaction) test to make duplicates of the cell, after they have the genetic transcript they start analyzing it with his family member's DNA on an electrophoresis slab. They'll choose one of the many region of DNA analysis, like 12S or 16S, whatever they wish. Or do more than one test.

That's it, compare it and see if it is similar. That is the picture you see on CSI and whatever shows. All the proof you need cause there would be no way to fake your own cells.

Steinhauer · 05-02-2011, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Reba

They probably took pictures during the autopsy, for official records. But I expect them to be classified and not released to the public. The enemy would use such pictures to rile up emotions of revenge, and as "proof" of American lack of respect for Muslim dead.

It would have been good to have a respected Muslim representative present at the autopsy and burial who could certify what he observed.

CNN reported at 3 this morning EST that Osama was buried at sea.

Buffalo · 05-02-2011, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by naisho

Don't worry they don't need to do anything else to prove he is dead. They are already did or will do the Dna analysis and it is 100% foolproof.

They already have the DNA from his family.
Proof is here: U.S. Asks Bin Laden Family For DNA Samples - ABC News

It would only take 5-7 hours to run 1 test. Take out one piece from anywhere on his body, a hair cell, a skin cell, a tongue cell, whatever.
Run a PCR (Polymerase chain reaction) test to make duplicates of the cell, after they have the genetic transcript they start analyzing it with his family member's DNA on an electrophoresis slab. They'll choose one of the many region of DNA analysis, like 12S or 16S, whatever they wish. Or do more than one test.

That's it, compare it and see if it is similar. That is the picture you see on CSI and whatever shows. All the proof you need cause there would be no way to fake your own cells.

Thanks! I was looking for the info on how long the DNA test would take. I knew that the length of time depends on which test you want to run. I heard that the longest test can be up to 2 months.

**TXgolfer** · 05-02-2011, 11:48 AM

Celebrating this would be like the Packers celebrating a Pop Warner team. The man was a gnat.....a pesky gnat.....but a gnat. Celebrating his death only gives him credibility IMO.

Royale · 05-02-2011, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Chevy57

Photo on Bin Laden's Bin Laden's million-dollar mansion from Gizmodo

Google Maps

but I confuse different google map photos.

It is the wrong one. Also the compound belongs to a former Pakistani military officer, not Osama's. Supposedly it belonged to him, he would be found easily.

Check NY Times

Bin Laden Is Dead, Obama Says - NYTimes.com

Royale · 05-02-2011, 12:02 PM

Hollywood is already developing two movies about the mission to kill Osama bin Laden.

Pair of Films About Usama bin Laden Death Missions Shoot to Top of Hollywood Priority List, Report Says - FoxNews.com

Royale · 05-02-2011, 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Frisky Feline

yeah but did you remember some u.s. militaries took pictures of hostages and abused them at the Abu Ghraib prison in iraq?

It was the U.S. Army soldiers who did take these pictures.

Also I want to emphasize you that the ones that they abused were prisoners, not hostages.

StSapphire · 05-02-2011, 12:08 PM

Question, since I keep seeing it differently - is the correct spelling "Osama" or "Usama"?

Frisky Feline · 05-02-2011, 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Royale

It was the U.S. Army soldiers who did take these pictures.

Also I want to emphasize you that the ones that they abused were prisoners, not hostages.

I did not think of using the words, hostages. I meant prisoners. thank you, royal for checking out with me.

Right, SEALS would not take pictures of the dead body?

Royale · 05-02-2011, 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Lissa

White House Officials Debate Releasing Photographs of Bin Laden

Since the picture was very gruesome, I do not think they should release it to the public.

Frisky Feline · 05-02-2011, 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Royale

Since the picture was very gruesome, I do not think they should release it to the public.

perhaps hackers would.

DURAY · 05-02-2011, 12:12 PM

Good job to the U.S. military. Soldiers, sailors and airmen and marines have cameras mounted on their helmets when going into battles. To prove the facts v. the fictions.

jillio · 05-02-2011, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Royale

Actually the tip came from one of the Al Qaeda prisoners in 2007 during the Bush years and it necessarily took alot of time for the U.S. to investigate and determine whether it was actually his whereabouts.

Four years?

Obama seemed to accomplish it in 5 intelligence meetings during March and April.

Royale · 05-02-2011, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Frisky Feline

I did not think of using the words, hostages. I meant prisoners. thank you, royal for checking out with me.

Right, SEALS would not take pictures of the dead body?

They did take a picture of his dead body for proof or the picture could be taken by ISI, Pakistan's Intelligence service. That is why the White House has been debating over the release of this very gruesome picture.

Buffalo · 05-02-2011, 12:13 PM

This one googled on what they hoped it is Osama's compound. They didn't find it as the map was taken back in 2005 when the compound was being built.
Osama bin Laden's mansion in Google Earth | Google Earth Blog

jillio · 05-02-2011, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by StSapphire

Question, since I keep seeing it differently - is the correct spelling "Osama" or "Usama"?

Muslim spelling "Usama" pronounced "Osama"; thus the accepted American spelling. Hooked on phonics, you know!

Royale · 05-02-2011, 12:14 PM

ABC News have a video footage of his death bed.

ABCNews.com: Breaking News, Politics, World News, Good Morning America, Exclusive Interviews - ABC News

jillio · 05-02-2011, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Royale

Hollywood is already developing two movies about the mission to kill Osama bin Laden.

Pair of Films About Usama bin Laden Death Missions Shoot to Top of Hollywood Priority List, Report Says - FoxNews.com

Why doesn't that surprise me?

StSapphire · 05-02-2011, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by jillio

Muslim spelling "Usama" pronounced "Osama"; thus the accepted American spelling. Hooked on phonics, you know!

Ah, okay. So, technically, both are correct, just like both "Spanish" and "Español" are technically correct?

Frisky Feline · 05-02-2011, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Royale

They did take a picture of his dead body for proof or the picture could be taken by ISI, Pakistan's Intelligence service. That is why the White House has been debating over the release of this very gruesome picture.

Hope Hackers would find a way to obtain those gruesome pictures to post the pictuers all over it.

jillio · 05-02-2011, 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by TXgolfer

Celebrating this would be like the Packers celebrating a Pop Warner team. The man was a gnat.....a pesky gnat.....but a gnat. Celebrating his death only gives him credibility IMO.

A "most wanted" gnat.

And the fact still remains that this commander in chief was able to do what previous admins couldn't. He found and got rid of the "gnat".( Even considering all that lack of military experience his detractors complained about during his campaign.)

***naisho*** · 05-02-2011, 12:18 PM

I'm still surprised only 3 men went down guarding Osama.
Where were the rest of his army?

Royale · 05-02-2011, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by jillio

Four years?

Obama seemed to accomplish it in 5 intelligence meetings during March and April.

The intelligence works usually take long time because there are so many tools and ways that they need to use to track, monitor and confirm valuable targets. They tend to take actions whenever the proof or evidence about the target become enough strongly conclusion.

Royale · 05-02-2011, 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by naisho

I'm still surprised only 3 men went down guarding Osama.
Where were the rest of his army?

They are spreading around the world.

**Jiro** · 05-02-2011, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Reba

I don't get the connection.

me either.

**Jiro** · 05-02-2011, 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Royale

The intelligence works usually take long time because there are so many tools and ways that they need to use to track, monitor and confirm valuable targets. They tend to take actions whenever the proof or evidence about the target become enough strongly conclusion.

yea especially since it's in Pakistan. You definitely do not want to make a mistake in Pakistan. It was hard enough to get Pakistan to cooperate with us. Can't imagine if we made a mistake and bombed wrong people.

Steinhauer · 05-02-2011, 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Frisky Feline

perhaps hackers would.

They already have. I now have a picture I can make a poster out of and place on my fireplace mantle with a spotlight on it.

"The guy who shot Osama" FOR PRESIDENT 2012!!!

jillio · 05-02-2011, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by StSapphire

Ah, okay. So, technically, both are correct, just like both "Spanish" and "Español" are technically correct?

Yes.

jillio · 05-02-2011, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Royale

The intelligence works usually take long time because there are so many tools and ways that they need to use to track, monitor and confirm valuable targets. They tend to take actions whenever the proof or evidence about the target become enough strongly conclusion.

Two months. And then the order to go in.

DURAY · 05-02-2011, 12:27 PM

The US paid Pakistan millions dollars in foreign aid and Pakistan voted with the US at the UN less than 10%. Israel voted with the US 90% of the times and they get 6 billion dollars annually.
Intelligence take time. CIA analysts read what the covert spies overseas collected, the NGA analyst look at the imaginary data, the NSA listeneded and DIA collected. Like a checkmate type of thing.

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DURAY Registered User Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 548	The US paid Pakistan millions dollars in foreign aid and Pakistan voted with the US at the UN less than 10%. Israel voted with the US 90% of the times and they get 6 billion dollars annually. Intelligence take time. CIA analysts read what the covert spies overseas collected, the NGA analyst look at the imaginary data, the NSA listeneded and DIA collected. Like a checkmate type of thing.