A body remains might belong to Caylee Anthony's - Page 7

C.C.Sinned · 12-20-2008, 02:27 PM

it didn't do that to me

Bottesini · 12-20-2008, 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Hear Again

yes, but you are accusing her before she has even gone to trial. she hasn't been evaluated by a psychiatrist yet at her trial, so let's not judge her sanity.

I think it would be perfectly fair to make an assumption in advance that anyone who would murder their own child is not sane.

I don't see why you have a problem with that.

Babyblue · 12-20-2008, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Hear Again

i thought i heard that the police found evidence of a google search for "chloroform" on casey's computer. if so, wouldn't that information give casey some clue as to its' potential harm?

as for your latter point, I couldn't agree more.

They also found traces in the trunk of the car.

Hear Again · 12-20-2008, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Babyblue

They also found traces in the trunk of the car.

i didn't know that babyblue. interesting...

Hear Again · 12-20-2008, 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Bottesini

I think it would be perfectly fair to make an assumption in advance that anyone who would murder their own child is not sane.

I don't see why you have a problem with that.

i have a problem with that because we don't know whether or not casey is mentally ill yet. until that fact is proven, i refuse to pass judgement.

besides, you know what happens to people who make assumptions.

Bottesini · 12-20-2008, 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Hear Again

i have a problem with that because we don't know whether or not casey is mentally ill yet. until that fact is proven, i refuse to pass judgement.

besides, you know what happens to people who make assumptions.

So you think a person who was not mentally ill could murder their own child?

Oceanbreeze · 12-20-2008, 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Hear Again

i have a problem with that because we don't know whether or not casey is mentally ill yet. until that fact is proven, i refuse to pass judgement.

besides, you know what happens to people who make assumptions.

I have a problem with alot of the things being discussed in this thread. We don't know jack at this point. The only thing we know is that Casey has been charged. She hasn't gone to trial, so it's way too premature to have any discussion about mental illness or anything else. To suggest that she could be mentally ill implies a reason why she killed her daughter, and we simply don't know that she did.

If she did, that opens up a whole different can of worms. Mental illness is a sticky defense to a crime. It's hard to prove. But, also, there's mental illnesses that may make a person delusional, and therefore, unable to understand the difference between right and wrong. Then, there's sociopathy. In my opinion, a mental illness, but one in which the person KNOWS the act is wrong, but doesn't have the capacity to CARE that it is. If a person is sociopathic, then life long confinement is warranted. In my opinion, treatment won't work. In that instance, you need to protect society from the sociopathic person. When you're dealing with sociopathy, you must think of society first, and the individual, second.

Hear Again · 12-20-2008, 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Bottesini

So you think a person who was not mentally ill could murder their own child?

yes i do, but a jury hasn't found casey guilty of murder yet. that's what i'm saying. let's wait for the trial before passing judgement.

Hear Again · 12-20-2008, 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Oceanbreeze

I have a problem with alot of the things being discussed in this thread. We don't know jack at this point. The only thing we know is that Casey has been charged. She hasn't gone to trial, so it's way too premature to have any discussion about mental illness or anything else. To suggest that she could be mentally ill implies a reason why she killed her daughter, and we simply don't know that she did.

If she did, that opens up a whole different can of worms. Mental illness is a sticky defense to a crime. It's hard to prove. But, also, there's mental illnesses that may make a person delusional, and therefore, unable to understand the difference between right and wrong. Then, there's sociopathy. In my opinion, a mental illness, but one in which the person KNOWS the act is wrong, but doesn't have the capacity to CARE that it is. If a person is sociopathic, then life long confinement is warranted. In my opinion, treatment won't work. In that instance, you need to protect society from the sociopathic person. When you're dealing with sociopathy, you must think of society first, and the individual, second.

i couldn't agree with you more, ocean.

Babyblue · 12-20-2008, 06:36 PM

Investigators Search Caylee's Grandparents' Home

They went back again to search the Grandparents home.

This Mornining.

Bottesini · 12-20-2008, 06:49 PM

Considering the searches recovered from the family computer on subjects like how to break necks, it is my opinion she meant to do way more than just knock the child out and party.

Children of that age are difficult to cope with and it is a very stressful time.

Maria · 12-20-2008, 06:49 PM

It's perfectly normal to share your thoughts what you feel about the mother/or an individual. Everyone has their own entitle to say their pieces, it could be anythin'. I don't see anythin' wrong with it.

I do that sometimes, too.

Oh, well...

Bottesini · 12-20-2008, 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Maria

It's perfectly normal to share your thoughts what you feel about the mother/or an individual. Everyone has their own entitle to say their pieces, it could be anythin'. I don't see anythin' wrong with it.

I do that sometimes, too.

Oh, well...

I agree Maria. There is not a valid reason why we can't all give our opinion.

I don't see anything in the rules about who dictates what AD members are required to think.

Maria · 12-20-2008, 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Bottesini

Considering the searches recovered from the family computer on subjects like how to break necks, it is my opinion she meant to do way more than just knock the child out and party.

Children of that age are difficult to cope with and it is a very stressful time.

Care to explain how ? Caylee was only 3 years old little girl and she looked soo happy and angelic face. Her face was radianted on a picture.

Bottesini · 12-20-2008, 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Maria

Care to explain how ? Caylee was only 3 years old little girl and she looked soo happy and angelic face. Her face was radianted on a picture. :aww:

Terrible twos. It is a rough developmental patch, and quite notorious for stress.

It starts before age two and goes past age two.

Hear Again · 12-20-2008, 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Bottesini

Considering the searches recovered from the family computer on subjects like how to break necks, it is my opinion she meant to do way more than just knock the child out and party.

Children of that age are difficult to cope with and it is a very stressful time.

according to the police, they never found evidence of google searches as to how to "break necks."

Cheri · 12-20-2008, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Maria

It's perfectly normal to share your thoughts what you feel about the mother/or an individual. Everyone has their own entitle to say their pieces, it could be anythin'. I don't see anythin' wrong with it.

I do that sometimes, too.

Oh, well...

Yeah exactly it's normal and very common

Bottesini · 12-20-2008, 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Hear Again

according to the police, they never found evidence of google searches as to how to "break necks."

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|Someone performed Internet searches for "neck breaking" and "household weapons" on the home computer of a Florida mother charged with killing her missing 3-year-old daughter, according to court documents released Wednesday.

Neck Breaking Search Found on Anthony Computer | theledger.com | The Ledger | Lakeland, FL

Here is a quote from the paper about court documents and a link to source.

At least do your research before making statements!

C.C.Sinned · 12-20-2008, 07:02 PM

can we just talk about the topic caylee's murder

lets not turn the topic into a bickering match...

***Jolie77*** · 12-20-2008, 07:11 PM

Come on you guys, Let's please have a civilized discussion and remain on the topic because if this bickering is going to continue, I will have no choice but to close this thread.

Thanks.

naisho · 12-20-2008, 07:12 PM

Guys guys guys, (and gals)
Let's not turn this into a my opinion vs your opinion thread. We are responsible adults, we live in the USA and we all are equally given the freedom of expressing our ideas, whether we are wrong or not.

I didn't want to have to look this up, but it is obvious in our first constitutional amendment.

Freedom of speech allows for:
* The right to seek information and ideas.
* the right to receive information and ideas.
* the right to impart information and ideas.

With that being said, NEITHER of you are wrong, continuing to argue over who is wrong or not is objection of the first amendment or a fit of tantrum that isn't necessary.

Ultimately, a child has passed away right now. If you could put yourself in someone else's shoes, if this child were the daughter of your friend, the last thing she'd want to hear is whether you guys were wrong or right about your ideas.

Babyblue · 12-20-2008, 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by C.C.Sinned

can we just talk about the topic caylee's murder

lets not turn the topic into a bickering match...

I agree!

Anyhow anyone check out the new link I posted not long ago about the Grandparents home being searched again?

Cheri · 12-20-2008, 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Babyblue

Investigators Search Caylee's Grandparents' Home

They went back again to search the Grandparents home.

This Mornining.

I don't understand what exactly were they looking for and what did they find? I thought they already searched the house.

Hear Again · 12-20-2008, 07:15 PM

i wonder if the trial will be televised on tv?

Maria · 12-20-2008, 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Bottesini

Terrible twos. It is a rough developmental patch, and quite notorious for stress.

It starts before age two and goes past age two.

Oh, yes at that age of 2 is the worse age for bein' a terrible 2.

It is not the first time for everyone who went through the same experience. Mothers sometimes need to control their anger. If, they feel stress that they can not control, then find a relative in her family or husband's to take this child for awhile at the same time to give mothers some break. It helps one way or another.

But, to kill a child like Caylee ? It's out of my wit -- a child is soo precious and treasure. I don't understand why someone has to kill his or her own child just like Caylee. I can't do that to my own child.

Cheri · 12-20-2008, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by naisho

Guys guys guys, (and gals)
Let's not turn this into a my opinion vs your opinion thread. We are responsible adults, we live in the USA and we all are equally given the freedom of expressing our ideas, whether we are wrong or not.

I didn't want to have to look this up, but it is obvious in our first constitutional amendment.

Freedom of speech allows for:
* The right to seek information and ideas.
* the right to receive information and ideas.
* the right to impart information and ideas.

With that being said, NEITHER of you are wrong, continuing to argue over who is wrong or not is objection of the first amendment or a fit of tantrum that isn't necessary.

Ultimately, a child has passed away right now. If you could put yourself in someone else's shoes, if this child were the daughter of your friend, the last thing she'd want to hear is whether you guys were wrong or right about your ideas.

I couldn't agree with you more.

C.C.Sinned · 12-20-2008, 07:19 PM

the evidence of chloroform and google search alone. show a coold blooded calculated murder

Maria · 12-20-2008, 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by C.C.Sinned

the evidence of chloroform and google search alone. show a coold blooded calculated murder

Do you think it is accidently overdosed in Caylee ? Me curious your opinion.

***Jolie77*** · 12-20-2008, 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Cheri

I don't understand what exactly were they looking for and what did they find? I thought they already searched the house.

They may have searched the house once but they are obligated to search the house again to see if they have found something that they've missed or may have overlooked to begin with.

naisho · 12-20-2008, 07:28 PM

I really wish I was in that crime lab. There is probably other information in there that isn't released to the public. Once they find the body, providing that it hasn't became decomposed too far - if she was chloroform'd, there is likely some fibers from the material used to gag her inside of her nostrils, easy to distinguish foreign objects in the nose when it is still fresh. Also any fibers from the clothing that she still has on. IE denim from jeans can be easily seen under a microscope.

Also, regarding the PC search. I'm positive that from the browsing history (that's how they get the search information - clear your net cache completely if you think you're ever doing something illegal online) that there is a datestamp on it. It will show exactly what date and time that search was done.

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naisho Registered User Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 2,007	I really wish I was in that crime lab. There is probably other information in there that isn't released to the public. Once they find the body, providing that it hasn't became decomposed too far - if she was chloroform'd, there is likely some fibers from the material used to gag her inside of her nostrils, easy to distinguish foreign objects in the nose when it is still fresh. Also any fibers from the clothing that she still has on. IE denim from jeans can be easily seen under a microscope. Also, regarding the PC search. I'm positive that from the browsing history (that's how they get the search information - clear your net cache completely if you think you're ever doing something illegal online) that there is a datestamp on it. It will show exactly what date and time that search was done. __________________

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naisho Registered User Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 2,007	Guys guys guys, (and gals) Let's not turn this into a my opinion vs your opinion thread. We are responsible adults, we live in the USA and we all are equally given the freedom of expressing our ideas, whether we are wrong or not. I didn't want to have to look this up, but it is obvious in our first constitutional amendment. Freedom of speech allows for: * The right to seek information and ideas. * the right to receive information and ideas. * the right to impart information and ideas. With that being said, NEITHER of you are wrong, continuing to argue over who is wrong or not is objection of the first amendment or a fit of tantrum that isn't necessary. Ultimately, a child has passed away right now. If you could put yourself in someone else's shoes, if this child were the daughter of your friend, the last thing she'd want to hear is whether you guys were wrong or right about your ideas.

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C.C.Sinned xXxXxXxXxXxXxXx Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 3,787	the evidence of chloroform and google search alone. show a coold blooded calculated murder