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Old 07-31-2008, 09:43 PM   #1 (permalink)
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yes Mars has water!

I heard that the space explorer Phoenix that is on mars confirmed there there is actually water on mars! They had pictures that they thought could be ice. The phoenix had drilled some samples just below surface and analyzed it and sent back confirmation of the chemical properties. That is so awesome to find that out in my opinion.
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Old 07-31-2008, 09:46 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Yupp I've heard there are several planets and dwarf planets that have water, like the Ceres. They kept researching about the water in outer space to see if they can use it for us to use. It would be very interesting!
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Old 07-31-2008, 09:52 PM   #4 (permalink)
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NASA Spacecraft Confirms Martian Water, Mission Extended07.31.08 This partial view of a full-circle panorama shows NASA's Mars Phoenix Lander and the polygonal patterning of the ground at the landing area. The image is in approximately true color. Image credit: NASA/JPL-Caltech/University Arizona/Texas A&M University
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Animations and videos TUCSON, Ariz. -- Laboratory tests aboard NASA's Phoenix Mars Lander have identified water in a soil sample. The lander's robotic arm delivered the sample Wednesday to an instrument that identifies vapors produced by the heating of samples.

"We have water," said William Boynton of the University of Arizona, lead scientist for the Thermal and Evolved-Gas Analyzer, or TEGA. "We've seen evidence for this water ice before in observations by the Mars Odyssey orbiter and in disappearing chunks observed by Phoenix last month, but this is the first time Martian water has been touched and tasted."

With enticing results so far and the spacecraft in good shape, NASA also announced operational funding for the mission will extend through Sept. 30. The original prime mission of three months ends in late August. The mission extension adds five weeks to the 90 days of the prime mission.

"Phoenix is healthy and the projections for solar power look good, so we want to take full advantage of having this resource in one of the most interesting locations on Mars," said Michael Meyer, chief scientist for the Mars Exploration Program at NASA Headquarters in Washington.

The soil sample came from a trench approximately 2 inches deep. When the robotic arm first reached that depth, it hit a hard layer of frozen soil. Two attempts to deliver samples of icy soil on days when fresh material was exposed were foiled when the samples became stuck inside the scoop. Most of the material in Wednesday's sample had been exposed to the air for two days, letting some of the water in the sample vaporize away and making the soil easier to handle.

"Mars is giving us some surprises," said Phoenix principal investigator Peter Smith of the University of Arizona. "We're excited because surprises are where discoveries come from. One surprise is how the soil is behaving. The ice-rich layers stick to the scoop when poised in the sun above the deck, different from what we expected from all the Mars simulation testing we've done. That has presented challenges for delivering samples, but we're finding ways to work with it and we're gathering lots of information to help us understand this soil."

Since landing on May 25, Phoenix has been studying soil with a chemistry lab, TEGA, a microscope, a conductivity probe and cameras. Besides confirming the 2002 finding from orbit of water ice near the surface and deciphering the newly observed stickiness, the science team is trying to determine whether the water ice ever thaws enough to be available for biology and if carbon-containing chemicals and other raw materials for life are present.

The mission is examining the sky as well as the ground. A Canadian instrument is using a laser beam to study dust and clouds overhead.

"It's a 30-watt light bulb giving us a laser show on Mars," said Victoria Hipkin of the Canadian Space Agency.

A full-circle, color panorama of Phoenix's surroundings also has been completed by the spacecraft.

"The details and patterns we see in the ground show an ice-dominated terrain as far as the eye can see," said Mark Lemmon of Texas A&M University, lead scientist for Phoenix's Surface Stereo Imager camera. "They help us plan measurements we're making within reach of the robotic arm and interpret those measurements on a wider scale."

The Phoenix mission is led by Smith at the University of Arizona with project management at NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory in Pasadena, Calif., and development partnership at Lockheed Martin in Denver. International contributions come from the Canadian Space Agency; the University of Neuchatel, Switzerland; the universities of Copenhagen and Aarhus in Denmark; the Max Planck Institute in Germany; and the Finnish Meteorological Institute.

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Old 07-31-2008, 09:56 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Old 07-31-2008, 09:57 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Old 07-31-2008, 10:38 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Be careful with what you say.

"yes Mars has water"

and then you said you heard

There is no proof until they verify the chemical elements like you said earlier.
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Old 08-01-2008, 12:04 AM   #8 (permalink)
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And I thought it was just mars bar?
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Old 08-01-2008, 12:25 AM   #9 (permalink)
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....That is why they spent sooo much money creating phoenix. It it does all that it was created to do, it can definately discern water among many others of molecules.
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Old 08-01-2008, 02:58 AM   #10 (permalink)
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Actually Im not quite surprised.

I did hear afew years back that Mars does have water as it has weather and seasons similar to Earth so...Ice is related to water so of course we have water lol.
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Old 08-01-2008, 03:23 AM   #11 (permalink)
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Old 08-01-2008, 07:45 AM   #12 (permalink)
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Old 08-01-2008, 08:06 AM   #13 (permalink)
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Old 08-01-2008, 09:11 AM   #14 (permalink)
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No, Mars hadn't gas.
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maybe that "water" is actual gas.
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Old 08-01-2008, 11:00 AM   #16 (permalink)
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maybe that "water" is actual gas.
They have conclusive PROOF that the "water" is water. They have all tools to examine and determine whether it is water.
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Old 08-01-2008, 10:42 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Now one question still remains...

Isn't there oxygen in Mars?

Cause I noticed there are hardly any plants to be seen around in Mars so it seems that without plants, there's no oxygen. We need plants such as trees for oxygen.
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Old 08-02-2008, 03:33 PM   #18 (permalink)
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I do not believe there are oxygen. I am sure there s def trace level, but nothing near sustainable to human.
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water? We shouldn't be surprised due too many riverbeds that shew there before our eyes.

oxygen? I think there must be little oxygen there at least.

Mars must be a dead planet after all... so what happened to it? I think the best scenario we could guess was due to some powerful asteriods and comets hitting it in the old past that threw water off Mars that then dried it up big time.
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I think it is so neat that Phoenix is getting data to send back to earth. I do not know all the components of the atmosphere, but I am most curious to find out. I'll have to do a little search if I can find what else Phoenix. I think Mars definately has much "less" atmosheric components and depth as Earth does. By looks of it Mars has been puverized with many asteroids.
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Isn't there oxygen in Mars?

Cause I noticed there are hardly any plants to be seen around in Mars so it seems that without plants, there's no oxygen. We need plants such as trees for oxygen.
No. Mars has a very high level of carbon dioxide in atmosphere.
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I can see Total Recall becoming a reality.
Second that! I bet, if they have water, put it out, then some people can move to Mars without need an astronaut.

Royale said: No. Mars has a very high level of carbon dioxide in atmosphere.

I didn't know that. But, I will have wait and see for
revealing about something.
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The perchlorate doesn't mean there can't be life because there are extreme microbes on Earth that use it to get energy. Phoenix itself didn't use it as a fuel, but the rocket that launched it did, so they're figuring out if some of that got onto Phoenix somehow. One test detected the perchlorate and another one didn't.

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Old 08-05-2008, 11:55 PM   #25 (permalink)
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Nevermind Mars. What about Nibiru?
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Water? On Mars? I would much rather stay on earth than going to another planet. Adam and Eve was created on earth, so we should do the same. =P But having water on Mars seems a good thing.
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