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Old 05-07-2008, 08:41 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I, personally, believe that Wikipedia is an excellent source for a "springboard" of research. Go to Wikipedia and you will be introduced to many, many sources.

There are those who discount the value of Wikipedia. They believe, like those who believe within only faith, that Wikipedia is a faithless and, thus, non-viable source of truth.

I am not claiming that Wikipedia is the ultimate source of Truth, unlike those who cite Biblical verses and, by "honest" research values. Wikipedia is, to me, a springboard unto the Truth. By some and because, simply, I, at any time, use Wikipedia, my findings are refused.

Wikipedia is an inspiration of Democracy. Wikipedia inspires free-thinking. There are many who do not believe that Wikipedia, as a beginning source, is a horrible, horrible thing. Why? Obviously, they do not want you to THINK.

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Old 05-07-2008, 09:19 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Well well...I research a lot of things on wikipedia. Best of all it's free encyclopedia over the internet, even though it's not 100 percent accurate because most of the articles are edited by the viewers. They do not have their own staff to edit all this stuff, I believe.
I like to research a lot of things as well.
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Old 05-07-2008, 09:21 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I find that when I'm channel surfing, Fox News is like that carton of milk way past its expiration date, taunting you from the back of the refrigerator. You KNOW it's gonna smell, but still you open it up and take a whiff. by: bc68251 on February 21, 2006
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Old 05-07-2008, 09:27 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I sometimes go to Wikipedia as the starting point in order to find more sources and be led to other websites with enriched information.
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Old 05-07-2008, 09:30 PM   #5 (permalink)
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I sometimes go to Wikipedia as the starting point in order to find more sources and be led to other websites with enriched information.
Exactly. It can be used as a starting point to locate valid resources. However, as there is no review process to protect for accuracy, and site posters do not have to demonstrate any degree of expertise in the topic which they address, it is not considered to be a valid source when one needs to support a position with credible sources.
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Old 05-07-2008, 10:42 PM   #6 (permalink)
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I like wiki for quick look-up on popular things. But for research purpose, wiki is
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Old 05-07-2008, 10:46 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Well well...I research a lot of things on wikipedia. Best of all it's free encyclopedia over the internet, even though it's not 100 percent accurate because most of the articles are edited by the viewers. They do not have their own staff to edit all this stuff, I believe.
I like to research a lot of things as well.
I agree. It's not always accurate, but one viewer can research other website for more general informations as well.

Wikipedia is not only just prove that it is the only ONE resource to answer all/or everything.
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Just keep in mind that you really aren't supposed to do your entire research by using just an encyclopedia either, regardless of which edition they are. They are often used as the starting point in a research. They are only there to point out the basic information and where to find them.
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I like wiki for quick look-up on popular things. But for research purpose, wiki is
Which Wiki? do you mean Wikipedia?
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I find that when I'm channel surfing, Fox News is like that carton of milk way past its expiration date, taunting you from the back of the refrigerator. You KNOW it's gonna smell, but still you open it up and take a whiff. by: bc68251 on February 21, 2006
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I agree. It's not always accurate, but one viewer can research other website for more general informations as well.

Wikipedia is not only just prove that it is the only ONE resource to answer all/or everything.
Yeah, can always research other sources. Wikipedia isn't the only place to research everything, lol.
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Just keep in mind that you really aren't supposed to do your entire research by using just an encyclopedia either, regardless of which edition they are. They are often used as the starting point in a research. They are only there to point out the basic information and where to find them.
Absolutely.
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Just keep in mind that you really aren't supposed to do your entire research by using just an encyclopedia either, regardless of which edition they are. They are often used as the starting point in a research. They are only there to point out the basic information and where to find them.
Each Wikipedia entries has citations links and external source links while a encyclopedia books has bibliographies list which you will have to visit library to find books listed in pedia book.



(not just for you but others as well )
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I find that when I'm channel surfing, Fox News is like that carton of milk way past its expiration date, taunting you from the back of the refrigerator. You KNOW it's gonna smell, but still you open it up and take a whiff. by: bc68251 on February 21, 2006
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I like Wikipedia. I usually go there for just about anything.

Of course, I do research from other sources. Wikipedia helps me get started with what to look for.
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I don't have money to fly and actual meet in person for an interview to find the truth about him or her. That's why there is encyclopedia online exist that provide the most information include the References selection to give actual source from book or newspaper.
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I don't have money to fly and actual meet in person for an interview to find the truth about him or her. That's why there is encyclopedia online exist that provide the most information include the References selection to give actual source from book or newspaper.
The difference is, a print encyclopedia is edited and verified. Contributions come from people who are credentialed. Not so with Wiki.
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Wikipedia helps me get started with what to look for.
Wikipedia is a starting point . . . for, even, those without democracy. It's value should not ever be less than the value of oil (which is more than I can say for those within acadamia).
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Wikipedia is a starting point . . . for, even, those without democracy. It's value should not ever be less than the value of oil (which is more than I can say for those within acadamia).
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Wikipedia:About - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Wikipedia vs. paper encyclopedias
Main article: Wiki is not paper (on Wikimedia Meta-Wiki)
Wikipedia has advantages over traditional paper encyclopedias. Wikipedia has a very low "publishing" cost for adding or expanding entries and a low environmental impact, since it need never be printed. Also, Wikipedia has wikilinks instead of in-line explanations and it incorporates overview summaries (article introductions) with the extensive detail of a full article. Additionally, the editorial cycle is short. A paper encyclopedia stays the same until the next edition, whereas writers update Wikipedia at every instant, around the clock, ensuring that it stays abreast of the most recent events and scholarship.


Important....
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Wikipedia is a starting point . . . for, even, those without democracy. It's value should not ever be less than the value of oil (which is more than I can say for those within acadamia).
see my post above under "Important..."

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The difference is, a print encyclopedia is edited and verified. Contributions come from people who are credentialed. Not so with Wiki.
Suppose, I have to scanning the whole information from the encyclopedia book and show to you by saying "Ah-ha! See!"
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Suppose, I have to scanning the whole information from the encyclopedia book and show to you by saying "Ah-ha! See!"
What?
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What?
*scratch my head*
So... do you like sweet chocolate bar?
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I, personally, believe that Wikipedia is an excellent source for a "springboard" of research. Go to Wikipedia and you will be introduced to many, many sources.

There are those who discount the value of Wikipedia. They believe, like those who believe within only faith, that Wikipedia is a faithless and, thus, non-viable source of truth.

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Wikipedia is an inspiration of Democracy. Wikipedia inspires free-thinking. There are many who do not believe that Wikipedia, as a beginning source, is a horrible, horrible thing. Why? Obviously, they do not want you to THINK.

Discuss.
I find Wikipedia as a general source of information fine on an informal basis. If I were to do in depth research, I'd use other sources that are considered creditable by the scholars and experts in the field if I want to have my research taken seriously. If I were to use Wiki as a reference, it'd be to give out the general info and then branch out to in-depth studies using other sources.

Sometimes I lurk in Infidels.org though I rarely post there and wiki generally is not accepted there because it's too broad and doesn't have enough depth to discuss certain matters like the development of the Bible.
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The difference is, a print encyclopedia is edited and verified. Contributions come from people who are credentialed. Not so with Wiki.
Yes, that's the most important part and I forgot to metion that in my post. That's a major reason why I'd rarely use wiki in research and I'd be careful not to use it as a single source of info.

It's why Infidels.org won't accept wiki in many of it's threads.
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exactly. Remember the incident where political party and the rival were editing each other's wiki to mislead people?? I remember while back in my class, this student who used handful of wiki for citations for research paper and obviously he flunked the course.
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