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Old 05-07-2008, 07:10 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Old 05-07-2008, 07:13 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Following in the footsteps of numerous other protesters who have had the courage to stand up against civil rights violations.
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Old 05-07-2008, 07:16 PM   #3 (permalink)
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When you think about it, 50 bullets going into an unarmed man is overkill.
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Old 05-07-2008, 07:29 PM   #4 (permalink)
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You're my hero, Banjo. You definitely have a way with words.

Long ago and for another thread, I served as a civilian expert on a police shooting board. This isn't an isolated occurrence.
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Old 05-07-2008, 07:42 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Sharpton made sure he got the kind of exposure needed. He got it . . . and that's civil rights?

Folks, the guy is dead and, yes, it does seem that the response is exorbitant. Let's listen to the flip side . . . no? Oh, yes, I forgot . . . the flip side is not politically correct.

Sorry . . . when racial profiling (such as a middle easterner buying a last-minute airplane ticket) is a horrible thing to employ, we should NOT take pre-cautions . . . that is the rule of the thumb now.

Let's see . . . oh, yes . . . typical circumstance but, that one time, it was "extenuating cirucmstances" . . . so all the past experiences should be thrown out? Yes . . . that is the argument with

Al Sharpton. Ah! Sharpton! He is a man of the people! He has, absolutely, no self-interest and his motives remain to be pure!

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Sharpton made sure he got the kind of exposure needed. He got it . . . and that's civil rights?
What???
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Old 05-07-2008, 07:59 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Politics. Don't be so shocked . . . OMG . . . you've been had, too?!?!?! And I thought you were intelligent. *sigh*
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Gee, I don't trust the police or cops nowdays. They are corrupted!
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You don't remember the Tawana Brawley and Duke "rape" hoaxes?

If the people protesting the cop shooting want credibility for their cause, the last person they should embrace is Al Sharpton.
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You don't remember the Tawana Brawley and Duke "rape" hoaxes?

If the people protesting the cop shooting want credibility for their cause, the last person they should embrace is Al Sharpton.
Yes, I remember them. And exactly what does that have to do with this man who was shot 50 times?
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Politics. Don't be so shocked . . . OMG . . . you've been had, too?!?!?! And I thought you were intelligent. *sigh*
And exactly what does that have to do with a man whowas shot 50 times. Sharpton wasn't the only one arrested. Perhaps youdon't see anything wrong with 50 bullets unloaded into an unarmed man, but I certainly see it, as Banjo so aptly put it, as overkill.
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Yes, I remember them. And exactly what does that have to do with this man who was shot 50 times?
Sharpton is not protesting out of courage for someone's rights; he's doing it for his own aggrandizement.

If the people protesting the shooting want to be taken seriously, they need to steer clear of Sharpton. Sharpton's involvement taints the protest.
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Sharpton is not protesting out of courage for someone's rights; he's doing it for his own aggrandizement.

If the people protesting the shooting want to be taken seriously, they need to steer clear of Sharpton. Sharpton's involvement taints the protest.
I'd say they are being taken pretty seriously. I personally can't determine Sharpton's motives. But you might want to keep in mind, he is not the one that wrote the headline or the story. But it certainly would appear that he has some members of AD concentrating on his involvement rather than the issue at hand....which is an unarmed dead man with 50 bullet holes.
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An unarmed man exiting a building "a Queens nightclub suspected of narcotics, prostitution and weapons violations" and said that he was going to get a gun.

You'll discount that. I'll discount that.

It's politics, darlin'. Don't be so surprised.

Sharpton in the equation = Wikiedpia for Jillio

Reference for the quotes: http://www.nytimes.com/2006/11/28/opinion/28tue3.html
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An unarmed man exiting a building "a Queens nightclub suspected of narcotics, prostitution and weapons violations" and said that he was going to get a gun.

You'll discount that. I'll discount that.

It's politics, darlin'. Don't be so surprised.

Sharpton in the equation = Wikiedpia for Jillio
Going to get a gun can hardly be equated to being armed. Suspected is just that...suspected.
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I tells you, believer, that I was not gonna get a gun when theys done tolds you that I was gonna get a gun! (They's have every reason to lie too . . . like lose reputation, pention, and all . . .)

I ain't done nothin' they done tolds youse I was gonna do.

Alls they done told you is lies.

LIES, I tells you . . . and you's got the science to prove it, too!
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I'd say they are being taken pretty seriously. I personally can't determine Sharpton's motives. But you might want to keep in mind, he is not the one that wrote the headline or the story. But it certainly would appear that he has some members of AD concentrating on his involvement rather than the issue at hand....which is an unarmed dead man with 50 bullet holes.
Well, the thread title and story headline are about Sharpton, so that's to whom I'm referring. It's a shame that the major focus is on Sharpton, but that's what happens when he gets involved.
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Well, the thread title and story headline are about Sharpton, so that's to whom I'm referring. It's a shame that the major focus is on Sharpton, but that's what happens when he gets involved.
Agreed. The issue should not be that Sharpton was arrested, but why he was marching with the other protesters. To protest the shooting of an unarmed man.
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Huh? Are you talking about Sean Bell? He wasn't shot 50 times, He was struck four times, another guy was shot 19 times and then another guy was shot 3 times. i feel bad that it had to happened to an unarmed person, but he did stated about getting a gun in front of an undercover officer in a bar. He would have been alive today if they followed the three strike law, Wasn't he been arrested three times before?
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hundreds of demonstrators blocked traffic to protest the acquittal of three detectives in the 50-bullet shooting of an unarmed black man on his wedding day.

Copied and pasted from the story.
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Well; they did an autopsy on Sean Bell, and he was shot 4 times in the neck and torso.
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Well; they did an autopsy on Sean Bell, and he was shot 4 times in the neck and torso.
I'm just showing you what the news report said from the link provided.
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I'd look at all sides of the issue, accusing the incident as simply racial doesn't fit well with me. What if the majority of the shooters did not intend it as racial, but just scared stupid, high anxiety, expressing an emotion from an earlier experience, or perhaps the caliber of the cop's bullet isn't sufficient to disable this person? I don't buy everything the media throws at us, they are only concerned about what sells.
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I'd look at all sides of the issue, accusing the incident as simply racial doesn't fit well with me. What if the majority of the shooters did not intend it as racial, but just scared stupid, high anxiety, expressing an emotion from an earlier experience, or perhaps the caliber of the cop's bullet isn't sufficient to disable this person? I don't buy everything the media throws at us, they are only concerned about what sells.
Looks like the cops' bullets disabled him well. He's dead. And police officers are supposed to be trained not to react out of emotion and fear. That's why they are permitted to carry guns. Because their training is supposed to make them capable of remaining level headed.
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I know Jillio, it's misleading information, because really the police fired 50 rounds into the car, not at a person or one man. I think the title came from Reverend Al Sharpton's mouth and I agree with Wokamuka that Reverend Sharpton is playing the race card to the extreme.
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I know Jillio, it's misleading information, because really the police fired 50 rounds into the car, not at a person or one man. I think the title came from Reverend Al Sharpton's mouth and I agree with Wokamuka that Reverend Sharpton is playing the race card to the extreme.
By TOM HAYS and DAVID B. CARUSO, Associated Press Writers

These are the men responsible for both the title and the wording of the article. How is Sharpton playing the race card, exactly?
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Looks like the cops' bullets disabled him well. He's dead. And police officers are supposed to be trained not to react out of emotion and fear. That's why they are permitted to carry guns. Because their training is supposed to make them capable of remaining level headed.
The point is to disable, but unfortunately was swiss cheesed to death. Each cop should answer for this individually, they can't dismiss the whole seen or precinct as racial.
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The point is to disable, but unfortunately was swiss cheesed to death. Each cop should answer for this individually, they can't dismiss the whole seen or precinct as racial.
I don't think anyone is trying to dismiss the whole precinct as racial. They are protesting the equittal of the cops responsible for the shooting.
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These are the men responsible for both the title and the wording of the article. How is Sharpton playing the race card, exactly?
Those two are just writers that works for the press, Reverend Sharpton does talk to the media. You need to do a research on Sharpton, You'll see how he does play the race card.
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Those two are just writers that works for the press, Reverend Sharpton does talk to the media. You need to do a research on Sharpton, You'll see how he does play the race card.
I doubt seriously that these reporters wrote a nationally released stroy on Al Sharpton's say so. That would be a great way to loose their job. They are responsible for the wording of any story that bears their name, as well as for doing proper research before publishing the story.

I've been following Al Sharpton for years. I still don't see how he is playing the race card in this instance.
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