Teen Receives 196-Year Prison Sentence - Page 4

Jiro · 05-08-2008, 02:22 AM

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Originally Posted by diehardbiker

Hey, America... Congratulations on being number one in prision population ratio! Don't you realize that USA got the highest ratio for a person confined in prison?

Know what is real best solution? Follow the China's way...

HARD LABOR CAMP! no break no loafing no nothing...

Image if a person knew there will be hard labor, would they commit crimes? I don't think so, right now most of them knew if they ended up in jail, all they do is loafing, eat, sleep, that is it. Too easy for them, and they usually don't mind that at all.. That is the problem...

I prefer them work 14-16 hours a day no break, no vacation, no nothing, just work... they will end up hate it so much and will straight themselves up in no time..

As for this teenager criminal, the best thing is labor camp or boot camp and this person will definetly change to decent citizen in about 10 years.

hear hear! diehardbiker for President!!

That way - we won't have any more silly debates like death penalty or high cost of life imprisonment.

Dixie · 05-08-2008, 05:32 PM

If you don't want to do the time, then don't do the crime.

jillio · 05-08-2008, 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Dixie

If you don't want to do the time, then don't do the crime.

Love ya, Dix, but 196 years????

Reba · 05-09-2008, 09:23 AM

Here's the response from my lawyer friend:

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I looked into it a bit, but don't know much more about it than what we read. I don't know anyone up that way who would have any real knowledge of the situation. That was quite a little crime spree he went on, including two armed robberies. Still, that was an unusual sentence. My best guess is that he already had a pretty extensive criminal record involving serious crimes, possibly stretching back into his early teen years. If that is the case, the criminal justice system probably just came to the end of the road with him.

The judge in this case has been around a long time, so I don't think it would be a reaction to any prior criticism. I don't think this particular judge would react to criticism one way or the other.

I hope this sheds a little light.

jillio · 05-09-2008, 12:23 PM

Thanks for the insight, Reba.

***VamPyroX*** · 05-09-2008, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Reba

Here's the response from my lawyer friend:

That's what I was thinking too.

It has happened at RIT in several situations. One time, there was this student who was fired from her job. She did something that most of us would see as deserving a slap-on-the-wrist if we were good workers. But in her case, she got fired for it. She told everyone that she got fired for no good reason. What everyone didn't know was that she had a 8-month history of causing problems one after another. She was often late for meetings, reports, projects, programs, etc. She was also not around to do her job. She constantly blamed other people for her problems. Even though they were all minor, it kept building up more and more.

It's like a person holding a huge cup. That person can hold that cup with ease while others drop small pebbles into it. As the cup fills up, it becomes harder to hold... but not too much that the person can still hold on. Suddenly, someone drops a couple big rocks in it. What happens? That person loses his/her grip and drops the cup.

That's what happened in this situation... this person did a bunch of small stuff, but doing something big enough was going over the line.

HorseRace · 05-09-2008, 01:53 PM

yup you are right! excatly! diehardbiker that one!

sad all judge look for money, not send boot camp something like that..

Reba · 05-09-2008, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by jillio

Thanks for the insight, Reba.

YW

Jiro · 05-09-2008, 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by VamPyroX

That's what I was thinking too.

It has happened at RIT in several situations. One time, there was this student who was fired from her job. She did something that most of us would see as deserving a slap-on-the-wrist if we were good workers. But in her case, she got fired for it. She told everyone that she got fired for no good reason. What everyone didn't know was that she had a 8-month history of causing problems one after another. She was often late for meetings, reports, projects, programs, etc. She was also not around to do her job. She constantly blamed other people for her problems. Even though they were all minor, it kept building up more and more.

It's like a person holding a huge cup. That person can hold that cup with ease while others drop small pebbles into it. As the cup fills up, it becomes harder to hold... but not too much that the person can still hold on. Suddenly, someone drops a couple big rocks in it. What happens? That person loses his/her grip and drops the cup.

That's what happened in this situation... this person did a bunch of small stuff, but doing something big enough was going over the line.

that's a good wisdom talking! pebble and cup... good one

***VamPyroX*** · 05-09-2008, 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by jiro123

that's a good wisdom talking! pebble and cup... good one

Heh, thanks.

CCfan · 05-13-2008, 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by RichardDeaf

Remember this is ARMED robbery. And we dont know his past history, and its possible he may have committed more crimes during his early teen...

I am confused. Are you forgetting about your past teenage history?

Maria · 05-16-2008, 02:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Wokamuka

Tell me about this "bridle" . . .

Use your concept.

Silenthand · 05-28-2008, 06:45 PM

They dont have getting prison being 200 years .... not even 85 per cent!!

Silenthand · 05-28-2008, 06:56 PM

Diehardbiker, need talk with you !!

jenni-m · 05-29-2008, 07:20 PM

I feel that judge was not at all impartial... the ruling smells of personal feeling, abuse of power, possibly vengance, who know what else.

I love Amercia but this ruling should be a 'slap in the face' that we have MAJOR problems internally, and they are going to get worse if something isn't done about it. I can see why people write dystopian novels...

Jiro · 05-29-2008, 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by jenni-m

I feel that judge was not at all impartial... the ruling smells of personal feeling, abuse of power, possibly vengance, who know what else.

I love Amercia but this ruling should be a 'slap in the face' that we have MAJOR problems internally, and they are going to get worse if something isn't done about it. I can see why people write dystopian novels...

whoa whoa you're getting too far. I think somebody mentioned that this guy has rap sheets as thick as your biology textbook. That's why he's getting maximum penalty.

jenni-m · 05-29-2008, 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by jiro123

whoa whoa you're getting too far. I think somebody mentioned that this guy has rap sheets as thick as your biology textbook. That's why he's getting maximum penalty.

I know that.
And I STILL think it is too much.
It is a pointless sentence which serves no other purpose than to punish him until death, and keep him locked away (and therefore a burden for the rest of his life, which may be a long time)

I can understand a sentence of many years. 200 years is excessive. He will not survive the entire sentence, it may as well be 2000... after his lifespan, it no longer matters. It is essentially a very slow death penalty, or as I see it, almost like how other countries will cut off hands or limbs.... except worse.

Also, excessive punishment for criminals possibly sets precident for bad treatment of non criminals...

Silenthand · 05-29-2008, 08:09 PM

Richarddeaf and I am try test with you to see if you can talk to for short, Please ? I just moment for only test

Silenthand · 05-29-2008, 08:11 PM