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Old 04-08-2008, 09:42 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Which picture do you prefer?

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Gateway Pundit: Drink Absolut Vodka-- Bring Back Mythical Aztlan

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Old 04-08-2008, 09:43 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Old 04-08-2008, 10:42 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Absolut Advertisement causes stir.

Absolut vodka pulls ad showing California in Mexico - Yahoo! News
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Old 04-08-2008, 10:47 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Opps....Mods please merge this post with Reba's as she beat me to the punch.
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Old 04-08-2008, 10:48 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Not sure about the first picture but the second picture is funny!
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Opps....Mods please merge this post with Reba's as she beat me to the punch.
I was just going to say the same thing. I don't mind merging my thread with your thread.
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Old 04-08-2008, 10:59 AM   #7 (permalink)
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I rather Texas own Mexico. bwhahaha! and turn hispanic into our own slave. wee... Oh no, I become evil!
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Old 04-08-2008, 12:48 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Oh no, I become evil!
"Become" is not the operative verb here.
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Old 04-08-2008, 12:57 PM   #9 (permalink)
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A bit of oh so boring history concerning the first map: The powers that were in Mexico at the beginning of the 1800s used that map or one very similar to send patrols to intercept, then capture or kill the Lewis and Clarke Voyage of Discovery. Fortunately, the two units never met.

Concerning the second map, I'm shocked . . . shocked I tell you. Hee hee.
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Old 04-08-2008, 02:27 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Second picture. We won the war against Mexico during the Mexican-American war. Get over it.
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Old 04-08-2008, 03:05 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Old 04-08-2008, 04:25 PM   #12 (permalink)
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I would have to say that the second picture. :-)
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Old 04-08-2008, 04:29 PM   #13 (permalink)
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The correct answer is the second picture.
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Old 04-08-2008, 04:31 PM   #14 (permalink)
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The correct answer is the second picture.
Oohh wow... does this mean we all get a prize? heee
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Old 04-08-2008, 06:54 PM   #16 (permalink)
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The picture I prefer is the 2nd one.
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Old 04-09-2008, 08:01 PM   #17 (permalink)
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This ad is historic, just past but not modern map, however some media can make joke to people and become angry against company.

I doubt that southwest states and Texas would return to Mexico because of too much way to do and USA has sent over billions to this states, too late for Mexico.
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This ad is historic, just past but not modern map, however some media can make joke to people and become angry against company.

I doubt that southwest states and Texas would return to Mexico because of too much way to do and USA has sent over billions to this states, too late for Mexico.
*nods* Agree, it's too late for Mexico to receive those states back.
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Old 04-10-2008, 06:52 PM   #19 (permalink)
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But think about it - we went in and took more than half of Mexico from the Mexicans now more than a century later we are all in a tizzy that Mexican migrants are crossing the border.

Im not condoning illegal immigration, but we gotta step back as U.S. citizens and realize that our country did take a piece of Mexico when we occupied Mexico City and forced them to give up their land.

Here is a more correct map of 1840 United States.
Establishing Borders: Map 1 A

Not all of that territory shown in the Absolut ad belonged to Mexico. There was a lot of disputed territory and there was also unrecognized territory that no one claimed, as well as territory that the US and Britain both claimed.

The Republic of Texas did not want to be a part of either nation, but wanted to be it's own sovereign nation. But in the end Mexico lost to the US and the Republic of Texas also lost to the US so Texas was integrated (not sure if thats the right word Im looking for) into the United States and it became the State of Texas, where as a state it could make its own laws for that specific state but it also had to abide by the Federal laws that were enforced for the whole nation. Texas didnt put up much of a fit though because they realized they had more 'freedom' being with the United States and not to mention the added protection of the US Army should Mexico decide to raid.
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But think about it - we went in and took more than half of Mexico from the Mexicans now more than a century later we are all in a tizzy that Mexican migrants are crossing the border.

Im not condoning illegal immigration, but we gotta step back as U.S. citizens and realize that our country did take a piece of Mexico when we occupied Mexico City and forced them to give up their land.

Here is a more correct map of 1840 United States.
Establishing Borders: Map 1 A

Not all of that territory shown in the Absolut ad belonged to Mexico. There was a lot of disputed territory and there was also unrecognized territory that no one claimed, as well as territory that the US and Britain both claimed.

The Republic of Texas did not want to be a part of either nation, but wanted to be it's own sovereign nation. But in the end Mexico lost to the US and the Republic of Texas also lost to the US so Texas was integrated (not sure if thats the right word Im looking for) into the United States and it became the State of Texas, where as a state it could make its own laws for that specific state but it also had to abide by the Federal laws that were enforced for the whole nation. Texas didnt put up much of a fit though because they realized they had more 'freedom' being with the United States and not to mention the added protection of the US Army should Mexico decide to raid.
Actually Texas wanted to be part of the United States due to defense and financial difficulties that they endured getting independence from Mexico.

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Most Texans wanted their Republic to be annexed into the United States because of the Republic's defensive and financial difficulties. Events such as the Dawson Massacre and two recaptures of Bιxar in Texas of 1842 added momentum to the desire for statehood
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I prefer the second picture, Reba. And, while we're at it, I favor burning all the Muslim mosques and torturing their people in the United States, since they don't want to honor us in their countries. In fact, they force us to do things their way. I guess I said all that to say (and I know what you'll say, Reba), we might as well burn the flag and the Constitution. The Freedom of Speech and Freedom of Religion was good while it lasted.
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I prefer the second picture, Reba. And, while we're at it, I favor burning all the Muslim mosques and torturing their people in the United States, since they don't want to honor us in their countries. In fact, they force us to do things their way. I guess I said all that to say (and I know what you'll say, Reba), we might as well burn the flag and the Constitution. The Freedom of Speech and Freedom of Religion was good while it lasted.
Not all muslim are bad, every muslim people are doing different way, even not all terrorist are muslim either.

Speaking of burning all muslim mosques are cruel and disrespect to muslim, that's not good idea to say like that, even not all muslim countries are bad either.

You know that every religion are different around of world.
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Not all muslim are bad, every muslim people are doing different way, even not all terrorist are muslim either.

Speaking of burning all muslim mosques are cruel and disrespect to muslim, that's not good idea to say like that, even not all muslim countries are bad either.

You know that every religion are different around of world.
*nods agree* Not all muslim are bad, my parents have lot of muslim friends in New Mexico and my parents also work with them for the coral reefs stones, also I almost got a job with the muslim to take care of a girl who can't take care of herself, but fail due to her difficult communicate with me.
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Not all muslim are bad, every muslim people are doing different way, even not all terrorist are muslim either.

Speaking of burning all muslim mosques are cruel and disrespect to muslim, that's not good idea to say like that, even not all muslim countries are bad either.

You know that every religion are different around of world.
I don't see where Muslim's are respecting anyone, especially the country of Israel, which is actually the issue. When they admit they are a people who don't have a right to claim any part of Israel as their own and move out and get out of the way, I will listen to what they have to say, which, actually, they have nothing to say. Our troops are overseas fighting for their greed, not ours or our rights.

Now, what's this you say about "respect?" Respect Israel and its full territory first, then we'll talk. That is for the Muslims, not for you, Pacman.
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I don't see where Muslim's are respecting anyone, especially the country of Israel, which is actually the issue. When they admit they are a people who don't have a right to claim any part of Israel as their own and move out and get out of the way, I will listen to what they have to say, which, actually, they have nothing to say. Our troops are overseas fighting for their greed, not ours or our rights.

Now, what's this you say about "respect?" Respect Israel and its full territory first, then we'll talk. That is for the Muslims, not for you, Pacman.
Well....remember that when the UN formed the state of Israel, they pretty much did it without the Arab's input.....
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Yeah, I rememberd that PBS tv told me that Mexico sold texas for $2 billiions about (you correct me if am wrong?). Now why they want one of our states back to mexico? this not part for mexico, period. If mexico and people wanted one of our states, Now our turn, should have saying " WE WANT $2.BILLIONS BACK before give it back to mexico "!

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They already broke their $$$ 2.B? what happen to mexico with the about $2 billions? how come their 2billions gone quickly for 208 years to now?
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I doubt that southwest states and Texas would return to Mexico because of too much way to do and USA has sent over billions to this states, too late for Mexico.
Too late? I doubt it. Ever heard of Mexican-American War? They fought for 2 years and Americans won the war and lands. It was chance for the Mexicans to have the land but guess what, they have lost to the Americans by armed conflicts. And the lands (Texas, New Mexico, Arizona, Nevada, California, and Utah) are "turned" over to the US.
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Well....remember that when the UN formed the state of Israel, they pretty much did it without the Arab's input.....
Is that a fact? I doubt and don't want to argue that you are wrong.
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Is that a fact? I doubt and don't want to argue that you are wrong.
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After 1945 Britain became embroiled in an increasingly violent conflict with the Jews[50]. In 1947, the British government withdrew from commitment to the Mandate of Palestine, stating it was unable to arrive at a solution acceptable to both Arabs and Jews.[51] The newly-created United Nations approved the UN Partition Plan (United Nations General Assembly Resolution 181) on November 29, 1947, dividing the country into two states, one Arab and one Jewish. Jerusalem was to be designated an international city – a corpus separatum – administered by the UN to avoid conflict over its status.[52] The Jewish community accepted the plan,[53] but the Arab League and Arab Higher Committee rejected it.[54]

Regardless, the State of Israel was proclaimed on May 14, 1948, one day before the expiry of the British Mandate for Palestine.[55] Not long after, five Arab countries – Egypt, Syria, Jordan, Lebanon and Iraq – attacked Israel, launching the 1948 Arab-Israeli War.[55] After almost a year of fighting, a ceasefire was declared and temporary borders, known as the Green Line, were instituted. Jordan annexed what became known as the West Bank and East Jerusalem, and Egypt took control of the Gaza Strip. Israel was admitted as a member of the United Nations on May 11, 1949.[56] During the course of the hostilities, 711,000 Arabs, according to UN estimates, fled from Israel.[57] The fate of the Palestinian refugees today is a major point of contention in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.[58][59]

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Well....remember that when the UN formed the state of Israel, they pretty much did it without the Arab's input.....
And why would they need the A Rabs input? Israel was a country before any of them were even born or even thought of? Israel is God's country and His chosen People. None of the A Rab world has the right to stake any part of Israel, including Gaza Strip and West Bank as theirs. Including Jerusalem! It never belonged to them. This declaration was made in the Old Testament by God Himself. And Muslims think otherwise . . .
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