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Old 03-14-2008, 05:04 PM   #91 (permalink)
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And blue horses would be detrimental how? And I would imagine that any jusdge would be anxious to set a prededent of throwing out frivolous cases that do nothing but tie up and already knotted judicial system.
She could pay the fine but instead chose to go through the 'already knotted judicial system.'
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Old 03-14-2008, 09:19 PM   #92 (permalink)
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at this thread!

Very interesting to read and I enjoyed my popcorn! LOL!

In my opinion, I think the woman should have checked with the authorities first to make sure she is not breaking any laws cuz there are so many stupid laws out there. However, as for the dog, beet juice is all natural without chemicals so how can it harm the dog? In the pic, the dog looks happy.

I would rather worry more about illegal dog fighting, puppy mills, abuse, and neglect of animals than this.
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Old 03-15-2008, 12:12 AM   #93 (permalink)
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She could pay the fine but instead chose to go through the 'already knotted judicial system.'
And she would not have made that choice had it not been for the ridiclus act of issuing the citation in the first place. I doubt seriously that the judge will reprimand her for exercising her civil rights.
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Old 03-15-2008, 10:07 AM   #94 (permalink)
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And she would not have made that choice had it not been for the ridiclus act of issuing the citation in the first place. I doubt seriously that the judge will reprimand her for exercising her civil rights.
She would never have received the citation in the first place if she didn't dye her dog.

Excercising her civil rights? Please, this isn't a civil rights issue to begin with.
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Old 03-15-2008, 12:25 PM   #95 (permalink)
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She would never have received the citation in the first place if she didn't dye her dog.

Excercising her civil rights? Please, this isn't a civil rights issue to begin with.
Why yes it is, Byrdie. She has the civil right to fight the citation in a court of law, and she is fighting for the civil right of doing what she wishes with her own possesions and long as she is creating no harm. As an attorney, you should recognize that. In addition, she is fighting unkust application of the law. How very negligent of you not to recognize that fact.
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Old 03-15-2008, 02:43 PM   #96 (permalink)
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Why yes it is, Byrdie. She has the civil right to fight the citation in a court of law, and she is fighting for the civil right of doing what she wishes with her own possesions and long as she is creating no harm. As an attorney, you should recognize that. In addition, she is fighting unkust application of the law. How very negligent of you not to recognize that fact.
She violated the law. She violated the law by dying her animal when she was warned not too. Can't you comprehend that? Apparently not. This has nothing to do with her civil rights. She is excercising her civil rights by contesting the said citation in court. Secondly, when one has an animal in their possesion, one has to follow the laws in terms of licensing the animal, not coloring the animal, etc., pertaining to one's jurisdiction.

If you are not going to be a law abiding citizen, you will have consequences to face.

Simple as that.

She is choosing the hard way and making it difficult on herself. Secondly, she is manipulating the media to her cause as she knowingly violated the law by advocating for funding for breast cancer research in dying her dog pink.

Which by the way is tacky.

There are other ways to raise funds for breast cancer research without going to the extreme of dying a dog pink.
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Old 03-15-2008, 02:55 PM   #97 (permalink)
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She violated the law. She violated the law by dying her animal when she was warned not too. Can't you comprehend that? Apparently not. This has nothing to do with her civil rights. She is excercising her civil rights by contesting the said citation in court. Secondly, when one has an animal in their possesion, one has to follow the laws in terms of licensing the animal, not coloring the animal, etc., pertaining to one's jurisdiction.

If you are not going to be a law abiding citizen, you will have consequences to face.

Simple as that.

She is choosing the hard way and making it difficult on herself. Secondly, she is manipulating the media to her cause as she knowingly violated the law by advocating for funding for breast cancer research in dying her dog pink.

Which by the way is tacky.

There are other ways to raise funds for breast cancer research without going to the extreme of dying a dog pink.

And she is quaranteed the right of her day in court to fight the citation. What part of that do you not understand, "barrsiter"?

She didn't manipulate the media, the media sought her out.

Perhaps you consider dying her dog pink to raise awareness for breast cancer "tacky", but your opinion on the tackiness of the act is not an issue. Nor has she been cited for being "tacky". So that is neither here nor there.

I might ask you, what are you doing to raise awareness on any level regarding any issue that affects any gender?

Your personal judgenments regarding the appropriateness of her actions are not an issue here. You are entitled to disagree with her. However, that does not mitigate the fact that she is indeed, entitled to her day in court to fight the application of a law of which the intent had nothing to do with this particular situation.
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And she is quaranteed the right of her day in court to fight the citation. What part of that do you not understand, "barrsiter"?

She didn't manipulate the media, the media sought her out.

Perhaps you consider dying her dog pink to raise awareness for breast cancer "tacky", but your opinion on the tackiness of the act is not an issue. Nor has she been cited for being "tacky". So that is neither here nor there.

I might ask you, what are you doing to raise awareness on any level regarding any issue that affects any gender?

Your personal judgenments regarding the appropriateness of her actions are not an issue here. You are entitled to disagree with her. However, that does not mitigate the fact that she is indeed, entitled to her day in court to fight the application of a law of which the intent had nothing to do with this particular situation.
How do you know if the media sought her out?

Secondly what does this have to do with gender? This issue is about a woman that was warned not to dye her pets and she continually ignored the warnings and got fined.

Again, we will see what the judge has to see on April 7th--when she has her day in court.

BTW..... call me "Byrdie the Barrister". It has a nice ring to it.
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This issue is about a woman that was warned not to dye her pets and she continually ignored the warnings and got fined.

Again, we will see what the judge has to see on April 7th--when she has her day in court.

I believe the issue is what her INTERPRETATION of the law is and what the definition of dye is due to her stating that she didnt dye her animal the fact that she "stained" her animal. I believe she continued to ingore the warnings because she believed she was right in her own definition and wasn't breaking any laws.

We'll see in April when this issue comes to light. Very interesting perspective.
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Old 03-16-2008, 12:30 PM   #100 (permalink)
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How do you know if the media sought her out?

Secondly what does this have to do with gender? This issue is about a woman that was warned not to dye her pets and she continually ignored the warnings and got fined.

Again, we will see what the judge has to see on April 7th--when she has her day in court.

BTW..... call me "Byrdie the Barrister". It has a nice ring to it.
Get your JD, and we will call you "Byrdie the Barrsiter".
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Get your JD, and we will call you "Byrdie the Barrsiter".
Been there, done that.
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Old 03-16-2008, 12:35 PM   #102 (permalink)
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Been there, done that.
As stated int he other thread that you continue to take off topic, claiming to have a law degree when one doesn't is called "fraud". Please stop before you embarrass yourself further.
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As stated int he other thread that you continue to take off topic, claiming to have a law degree when one doesn't is called "fraud". Please stop before you embarrass yourself further.
I will if you will.
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Old 03-16-2008, 12:39 PM   #104 (permalink)
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I will if you will.
My, aren't we childish. There's an example of mature behavior. Almost as mature as claiming a JD in an attempt to bolster one's credibility. Back to the school yard with you!
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My, aren't we childish. There's an example of mature behavior. Almost as mature as claiming a JD in an attempt to bolster one's credibility. Back to the school yard with you!
As well as claiming one has a psychology degree and "diagnosing" people via forums without properly meeting them.

You want to go back to the school yard? Be my guest....
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As well as claiming one has a psychology degree and "diagnosing" people via forums without properly meeting them.

You want to go back to the school yard? Be my guest....
Who is diagnosing, Byrdie? You're making quite the accusation there. Better be able to back that one up, Matlock!
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Who is diagnosing, Byrdie? You're making quite the accusation there. Better be able to back that one up, Matlock!
http://www.alldeaf.com/topic-debates...justice-5.html

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Read the post, no diagnosis contained in there at all. Just some very valid observations based on your behavior. A diagnosis contains identification of a specific disorder according to DSM IV (TR) criteria. Once again, Byrdie, your accusations are pulled out of thin air, and are neither valid nor reliable.

Give it up, Byrdie.
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Old 03-18-2008, 09:54 AM   #109 (permalink)
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Read the post, no diagnosis contained in there at all. Just some very valid observations based on your behavior.
Observations by "Jillio the person" or "Jillio the psychologist"?

I think it's time that we both start ignoring one another.....

It's apparent that we both don't like each other.
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I have learned sooo much about PETA. It amazed me how they do it. I was shocked and I definitely don't agree with PETA at all. I had a staff meeting about a month ago about PETA. anyway.. sorry its off topic.


I was thinking.. if coloring on a dog or cat or cow or pig, whatever you want to name is not allowed, why is the grooming allowed? Its the way the owner wants it to look. grooming, shaving, pulling hair out of ears, sedating, etc is okay but not ok to dye? I'm not against it or for it. I don't consider it animal cruelty though. I love animals and when I see animals that has a spike on its head, its like awww how cute! when I saw that pink poodle, i said awww how cute! that's just the owner's personality how they like their animals to be. and Agreed that as long as its fed and taken care of that's all that matters.
Good point there Jeep Girl, I was thinking the same thing as you were.
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The woman was warned several times in the past.

Therefore, she knew about the law.

Ahh. now that explains it.
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Depends on the judge. Surely one doesn't want to set a precedent.

If this case gets thrown out, what's next?

Blue horses?

... Honestly I thought the pink doggie looks soooo cute.
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Observations by "Jillio the person" or "Jillio the psychologist"?

I think it's time that we both start ignoring one another.....

It's apparent that we both don't like each other.
I am not working in a professional capacity on this board, Byrdie. So the answer to your question is obvious. It doesn't take a professional physchologist to not the obvious, and your posts were obviously ficticious regarding your status as an attorney. You gave yourself away one too many times. Butthat often happens when one attempts to create a false impression. They are tripped up by the inconsistencies in their own dishonesty.

You've got an ignore buton. Hit it.
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Time to put an end to the belittling and bickering--this thread is starting to veer into a different direction, therefore, pls. stick to the topic of this thread.





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Since it is my thread, you may go ahead lock it since I am tired of reading some negative or bickering. Thanks!

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