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Old 07-21-2007, 09:53 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Immigrating to U.S. becomes much costlier

Many fees to skyrocket by end of the month — $1,010 for a green card

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Updated: 6:42 p.m. CT July 20, 2007

Immigrants could end up paying thousands of dollars more to enter and stay in the country after July 30, when dozens of application fees will double or even triple, sparking opposition from a broad coalition of activists and a rush by immigrants to submit their paperwork before the little-publicized changes take effect.

Altogether, 39 fees will rise an average of 66 percent, but some of the largest increases will come in charges for the most basic documents immigrants must seek. Most notably, the fee to apply for a green card, establishing legal residence in the United States, will almost triple, from $395 to $1,010.

Applying for citizenship will rise from $400 to $675. It cost $90 as recently as 1991.

Immigrating to U.S. becomes much costlier - U.S. Security - MSNBC.com
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Old 07-21-2007, 11:44 AM   #2 (permalink)
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that's good. it become difficult for immigrating to get job.
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Old 07-21-2007, 11:55 AM   #3 (permalink)
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that's good. it become difficult for immigrating to get job.
then you have no respect for immigrant, excluding on illegal immigrants.

This fees can cause to result in more illegal immigrants because they can't afford to get green card then across to US illegally and USA has nowhere to make better. I means that will growing in double or triple of illegal immigrant.

Immigrants who got green card that means legal, not illegal.

Who cares about job, many illegal immigrants have pass to got job, like at Target, BK, Wal-mart, McDonalds and low paying job.
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Old 07-21-2007, 12:10 PM   #4 (permalink)
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This is an oxymoron, like Government Intelligence
Illegals are not Immigrants
Immigrants are not Illegals

I know many people who are immigrants and they are hard working and proud to move toward becoming citizens. They do not like being bunched with the illegals.

The US needs to increase fees to reflect costs.
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Applying for citizenship will rise from $400 to $675. It cost $90 as recently as 1991.
Assuming this information is correct, the rise in fees from approx. $100.00 in 91 to $700.00 in 2007(?) does not seem excessive - that is a 16, or so, year span.
The difference of $600.00 during a 16 year period equals an average of $37.50 per year increase in fees/costs.
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Old 07-21-2007, 12:19 PM   #5 (permalink)
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This is an oxymoron, like Government Intelligence
Illegals are not Immigrants
Immigrants are not Illegals

I know many people who are immigrants and they are hard working and proud to move toward becoming citizens. They do not like being bunched with the illegals.

The US needs to increase fees to reflect costs.

Assuming this information is correct, the rise in fees from approx. $100.00 in 91 to $700.00 in 2007(?) does not seem excessive - that is a 16, or so, year span.
The difference of $600.00 during a 16 year period equals an average of $37.50 per year increase in fees/costs.
There's status of legal immigrant and illegal immigrant, it's widely to call like that.

In my opinion, increase the fees would increase more illegal immigrants and they are anywhere in USA.

I'm not pro or against on illegal immigrant, it's neutral for me.
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Old 07-21-2007, 01:59 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Oh please... earth is everyone's home, nobody is illegal to enter anyplace on the earth..
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Old 07-21-2007, 03:29 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Oh please... earth is everyone's home, nobody is illegal to enter anyplace on the earth..
Oh, really? Then we can all move into your house and you won't mind. Of course, we expect you to continue paying the bills for the house and the utilities.
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Oh please... earth is everyone's home, nobody is illegal to enter anyplace on the earth..
Unfortunate but far from the truth PuyoPiyo.

If you'd like to try that theory by walking into, Mexico, say, and expect them to allow you to stay and get government benefits, etc.
I will gladly take up collections and hire attorney to try to get you out of the Mexican prison - but - I reserve the right to say "Told Ya So"
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Oh, really? Then we can all move into your house and you won't mind. Of course, we expect you to continue paying the bills for the house and the utilities.
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Oh, really? Then we can all move into your house and you won't mind. Of course, we expect you to continue paying the bills for the house and the utilities.
good point
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Oh, really? Then we can all move into your house and you won't mind. Of course, we expect you to continue paying the bills for the house and the utilities.
I don't mean the house, I mean the land. Anyone can pick the land whatever they want. The borderline of country is just made from man.
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Some of you are misunderstood about Puyo's post.

Puyo is correct about earth, it's free for everyone to live in this land but they need look for own place to live, not Puyo's home, it's not need to call "illegal".

To be fair, many people are moved to USA in 18th century and took the land then immigrants like Mexicans have rights to move in USA or will be sorry in near future.
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I don't mean the house, I mean the land. Anyone can pick the land whatever they want. The borderline of country is just made from man.
Yup, I understand but others aren't.
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Some of you are misunderstood about Puyo's post.

Puyo is correct about earth, it's free for everyone to live in this land but they need look for own place to live, not Puyo's home, it's not need to call "illegal".

To be fair, many people are moved to USA in 18th century and took the land then immigrants like Mexicans have rights to move in USA or will be sorry in near future.
Exactly! The USA even was not the pure white country, it was Native American's land, and they believe that earth is everyone's home (the land).
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Who cares about job, many illegal immigrants have pass to got job, like at Target, BK, Wal-mart, McDonalds and low paying job.
I know Wal-Mart USED to let illegal immigrants works but not anyway, it's required proof to work in U.S. now
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I don't mean the house, I mean the land. Anyone can pick the land whatever they want. The borderline of country is just made from man.
OK. I'll just pitch my tent in your backyard.
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I will join, too!

By the way, I agree with Reba, P.
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I know Wal-Mart USED to let illegal immigrants works but not anyway, it's required proof to work in U.S. now
Oh yup cuz wal-mart got in trouble for hired many illegal immigrants.

It's existing in other retail and fast food like McDonald's, Target and Home Depot.

I found from wake wal-mart.com, website about anti-wal mart and said about illegal immigrants.
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Exactly! The USA even was not the pure white country, it was Native American's land, and they believe that earth is everyone's home (the land).
Yup, that's right and white population in USA will be 50% in 2050, compared to 70% in 2000.

In 2005, 45% of American children that's under 5 years old are minorities, including with latino, black, asian and other than white.
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Exactly! The USA even was not the pure white country, it was Native American's land, and they believe that earth is everyone's home (the land).
How soon everybody forgets and conveniently at that. They came over from somewhere else. Just because it is believed they were here first doesn't make them the originals. Nobody knows who was here first. History is all about conquerers, those that assimilate into a population and those that move into into an empty land. History is dynamic...not static and it continually changes.

As far as the Native Americans beliefs are concerned, they are just one of many cultures. Most cultures don't subscribe that the earth's is everyone's. Good luck trying to kick the Chinese out of China!
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By the way, I agree with Reba, P.
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OK. I'll just pitch my tent in your backyard.
Umm okay if you want, I never care about the backyard anyway lol.

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Yup, that's right and white population in USA will be 50% in 2050, compared to 70% in 2000.

In 2005, 45% of American children that's under 5 years old are minorities, including with latino, black, asian and other than white.
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How soon everybody forgets and conveniently at that. They came over from somewhere else. Just because it is believed they were here first doesn't make them the originals. Nobody knows who was here first. History is all about conquerers, those that assimilate into a population and those that move into into an empty land. History is dynamic...not static and it continually changes.

As far as the Native Americans beliefs are concerned, they are just one of many cultures. Most cultures don't subscribe that the earth's is everyone's. Good luck trying to kick the Chinese out of China!
What you just said, proves that earth was never "owned", the earth is sharing. Also I am not trying to kick Chinese out of China if they want to stay in China, good for them, I am staying in USA.

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It's really sad that alot of people are brainwashed by the "idol" of government and ignore our true nature.
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This fees can cause to result in more illegal immigrants because they can't afford to get green card then across to US illegally and USA has nowhere to make better. I means that will growing in double or triple of illegal immigrant.
Yes I agree that this fee doesn't solve anything but cause more illegal immigrants.

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Immigrants who got green card that means legal, not illegal.
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Who cares about job, many illegal immigrants have pass to got job, like at Target, BK, Wal-mart, McDonalds and low paying job.
Interesting, it's legal in your country to employ illegal immigrants in their companies or whatever.

It's illegal here in Germany to employ illegal immigrants in their companies unless they have the residence permit from City Hall. Without residence permit, they cannot get job. They have to extend their residence permit if they want to stay in Germany longer... It's City Hall's decision either they extend their permit or not.
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Ok, I will put cruel dog in backyard then your hair will be spiked again.

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Ok, complain about illegal immigrants are understandable.

Reba and sr171soars (If you own house), If your subdivision does require to cover and paid to HOA, that's protect your house's value and not going to be bad repulation, unlike numerous of apt and house (rental, own with no HOA) are filled with many Mexicans, of course, it does happen in CA. You have going to deal with them but there's some offers pride or volunteer to clean the street up, also help them to cut the grass or whatever.

Again, it's world that wouldn't give a damn about it.

Illegal immigrants aren't alone but some legal immigrants can give a bad repulation on environment.
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Interesting, it's legal in your country to employ illegal immigrants in their companies or whatever.

It's illegal here in Germany to employ illegal immigrants in their companies unless they have the residence permit from City Hall. Without residence permit, they cannot get job. They have to extend their residence permit if they want to stay in Germany longer... It's City Hall's decision either they extend their permit or not.
Yup, some companies are accept that but certain of citizens are protest against on them, also bill has been denied and border isn't gain more strength to protect them, that's impossible. I would wonders if they run and across the border like blowout then USA will be in screw up, not for me. I'm sick of SOS (Save Our State) and their members are ended up in arrest for hate crime, even racist to Mexicans and some Mexicans are not happy then try to beat them down.

For me, I have alot of respect and got usually with them, that almost no problem except for conflict with languages like unable to speak english but that's their choice.

I talked to my friend that used to work with illegal immigrants and he said they do paid taxes in federal, state, city and county but they don't pay SS and medicare due absent of SS card and green card. He said it's not bad move for him.

For takeover the job, that's challenge for minimum wage job and you just better to get high paying job then you won't have deal with them. It's normal for immigrants to take the job, more full and some Americans are laid off, some citizens aren't doing well or not make right then wouldn't get job, though.
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I don't mean the house, I mean the land. Anyone can pick the land whatever they want. The borderline of country is just made from man.
if it wasn't for govt, we would ruin Earth long time ago.
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Great! The more the merrier, heh?

I have a couple of multi-room tents, a screened "kitchen" tent, and even a porta-potty/shower tent. I'll bring my propane grill and deep fryer, and my solar water heating bags.

While we're at it, we'll just tap into P's electricity, cable and water. After all, the whole earth belongs to us!
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Great! The more the merrier, heh?

I have a couple of multi-room tents, a screened "kitchen" tent, and even a porta-potty/shower tent. I'll bring my propane grill and deep fryer, and my solar water heating bags.

While we're at it, we'll just tap into P's electricity, cable and water. After all, the whole earth belongs to us!
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