Duggars Family... When Will It End? - Page 23

Journey · 11-08-2011, 11:16 PM

Basically I agree Jillio and Banjo but by allowing the world into their homes via their TV show, they have invited all compliments and criticisms as well. Personally, I admire the family - they are self-sufficient (due in a big part to their series however), have productive, educated, enthusiastic kids, and have - as they would say - a servant's heart. But I fear they are pushing their luck/blessings.

**sallylou** · 11-08-2011, 11:21 PM

At 40, the risk of genetic problems sky rockets. 45-50 is even higher. Most women who have a baby after 40 have genetic testing. I just decided to take my husband up on his offer to be sterilized. He agreed no more babies. No worries now.

**mbrek** · 11-08-2011, 11:38 PM

While my personal reaction to 20 kids is "eeew", if they can support their family themselves it's their right to have them. I just think it's sad... how do you get to know each of your children when there are so many? It would be trying just to get through each day - I personally go for quality vs. quantity. But that's me.

**Dixie** · 11-08-2011, 11:42 PM

Whats funny is I don't live that far from them yet I have never seen any of them in real life.

**mbrek** · 11-08-2011, 11:44 PM

It seems like the odds of that happening should be pretty good!

**Dixie** · 11-08-2011, 11:51 PM

Yeah, I can be in their town in 2 hours from where I am at. I've been up there a couple of times, yet, I have never seen any of them. Maybe there's so many of them I just thought they were a random group of people if they were dressed differently and not the same and didn't stick out like a sore thumb. (Now if I saw a bunch of girls in a dress at the same time I would be thinking either Pentecostal women's group or Duggar girls.)

But get this, now the Duggar family will have an aunt or uncle that is YOUNGER than a niece or nephew. The oldest Duggar son is married and his wife had a baby before this one was conceived.

Now can you imagine keeping up with all those birthdays?

**Banjo** · 11-08-2011, 11:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Dixie

But get this, now the Duggar family will have an aunt or uncle that is YOUNGER than a niece or nephew. The oldest Duggar son is married and his wife had a baby before this one was conceived.

It's not really that out of ordinary. In fact, I am a great-uncle to two children and I'm only 27.

**sallylou** · 11-08-2011, 11:58 PM

I can't even imagine calling each kid their right name. lol

**Jiro** · 11-08-2011, 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by sallylou

I can't even imagine calling each kid their right name. lol

sure you can... without a blink

cuz you've been able to remember names of over hundred friends, relatives, teachers, etc.

**sallylou** · 11-09-2011, 12:06 AM

Funny thing with kids, you get the names mixed up. I accidently call my youngest by my eldest's name. My hubby accidently called our eldest by his brother's name (whom he looked very much like). Sometimes, I resort to "Hey, you, redheaded one!" Motherhood makes you goofy that way.

**Dixie** · 11-09-2011, 12:06 AM

But try having one named James and another named Jamie. You meant one but say the other because your tongue gets tied.

I do it sometimes because there are two girls in our church, one is Madeline (there are two others besides my own) and there is one Madison. So often I will say one and mean the other especially if I am using the two names in rapid succession in conversation. Now in one SS class there is a Mindy, a Mandy, Madeline, Madison, and a Meghan.

sara1981 · 11-09-2011, 12:58 AM

Duggars family always tradition names J for child's name never another A to Z its obey by their Duggars family chose names.

Their older son and his wife chose name M for their child's name not same A to Z i respect that

sara1981 · 11-09-2011, 01:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Dixie

Yeah, I can be in their town in 2 hours from where I am at. I've been up there a couple of times, yet, I have never seen any of them. Maybe there's so many of them I just thought they were a random group of people if they were dressed differently and not the same and didn't stick out like a sore thumb. (Now if I saw a bunch of girls in a dress at the same time I would be thinking either Pentecostal women's group or Duggar girls.)

But get this, now the Duggar family will have an aunt or uncle that is YOUNGER than a niece or nephew. The oldest Duggar son is married and his wife had a baby before this one was conceived.

Now can you imagine keeping up with all those birthdays?

Duggars family have strong chose dress-up not jeans,shorts or t-shirts like Duggars and his family friends Bates always does..

Duggars kids been mostly home school than public school or private school stay away from crowds or fans i respect Duggars chose have home school.

Homeschooling - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The Arkansas Education Alliance

Duggars kids have same birthday when Michelle give birth all 19 children

Michelle and their girls helping younger kids at home all the times under 10 or over between years old when Jim Bob and older gone out for trips.

**Banjo** · 11-09-2011, 02:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Journey

they are self-sufficient (due in a big part to their series however)

I don't know about that, the father is a realtor and an investor. He used to be a state legislator too as well. He owns several commercial properties and more. The reality show is just an extra source of income. They were living debt-free prior to the reality show. In fact, they paid in cash for their second house.

They are much better than the Gosselins ever will be. The Gosselins had to take the TV offers in order to pay for everything. They are money-hungry, nothing more. The Duggars aren't.

**Dixie** · 11-09-2011, 07:49 AM

The Duggar children also have to adhere to strict discipline, yes? Like the girls are expected to wear dresses all the time and are pushed towards being housewives rather than being able to pursue a career. The boys are pushed towards being the breadwinner for their families and are pushed towards going to college, getting a good job and so forth. I would think some of the children are going to grow up having a closer bond with the sibling that raised them rather than with the parents. They like their Bible time with daddy because that may be the only time they get to see their dad. I wouldn't mind having several siblings but I'm not sure I would want that many siblings.

**deafskeptic** · 11-09-2011, 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Dixie

But try having one named James and another named Jamie. You meant one but say the other because your tongue gets tied.

I do it sometimes because there are two girls in our church, one is Madeline (there are two others besides my own) and there is one Madison. So often I will say one and mean the other especially if I am using the two names in rapid succession in conversation. Now in one SS class there is a Mindy, a Mandy, Madeline, Madison, and a Meghan.

When my niece Helen was born, I hated it when people would call out for her because our names sound very similar and I thought they were calling me not her.

When I went to a camp in Charlotteville, there were five ellens in our bunk. We had to refer to each other by names such as Ellen T, Ellen s etc.

whatdidyousay! · 11-09-2011, 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by freckles

wowsers, 12 chick poxers.

as for duggar parents, I have no judgement on them. they seem to manage this big family very well and haven't harm us in any way. what I like about them, making impossibility impossible. some people are just too blind.

maybe they'll stop when they even up genders? now they have 10 males and 9 females right now ... or until the mother is 45 or so, unable to ovulate/produce any more? she's 42, becoming 43 soon so probably not more than 21 or 22 babies.

I am glad everyone does not want 22 kids or more! We would really be over populated a lot faster!

**deafskeptic** · 11-09-2011, 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by whatdidyousay!

I am glad everyone does not want 22 kids or more! We would really be over populated a lot faster!

yeah, the growth would be seriously exponential!

DeafCaroline · 11-09-2011, 03:35 PM

in alabama there was a large chicken farm near where my boyfriend lives. the smell is overwhelming every time we drive by and the farm wasn't even close to the road. made me wonder how workers inside those chicken houses cope. the neighbour who lives up the road, he also raises chickens but they have total free reign of the property, they never seem to take off even though they could. - you couldn't smell the shit at all and those were damn happy looking birds. I am wondering why can't birds be allowed outside of the houses if there are fences? What's the harm?

**Banjo** · 11-09-2011, 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by DeafCaroline

in alabama there was a large chicken farm near where my boyfriend lives. the smell is overwhelming every time we drive by and the farm wasn't even close to the road. made me wonder how workers inside those chicken houses cope. the neighbour who lives up the road, he also raises chickens but they have total free reign of the property, they never seem to take off even though they could. - you couldn't smell the shit at all and those were damn happy looking birds. I am wondering why can't birds be allowed outside of the houses if there are fences? What's the harm?

I agree with you, I believe in allowing the animals to roam freely rather than be kept in cages.

jazzy · 11-09-2011, 05:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeafCaroline

in alabama there was a large chicken farm near where my boyfriend lives. the smell is overwhelming every time we drive by and the farm wasn't even close to the road. made me wonder how workers inside those chicken houses cope. the neighbour who lives up the road, he also raises chickens but they have total free reign of the property, they never seem to take off even though they could. - you couldn't smell the shit at all and those were damn happy looking birds. I am wondering why can't birds be allowed outside of the houses if there are fences? What's the harm?

I have 25 hens and roosters in our backyard. during the day they are free to roaming but still need to be caution for hawks and owls. We already lost one to hawk last summer. We do not eat them because we already are attached to them. We collect eggs everyday and I need to go outside and clean their pen now before it gets dark and colder. Yes it smells if I do not clean everyday.

jazzy · 11-09-2011, 05:33 PM

Mother is in high risk pregnant and I hope she knows what she is doing. We already lost twins last week to TSS and blood clot, thankful the water broke instead of termiate 20 weeks pregnant to save mother's life. They were lived for 3 to 4 hours and they suffered. We are still in mourning and I hope this 20th child will be their last one. Too many women die from pregnant and childbirth. Now I know medical does not prevent death of mother and unborn babies at all. After I read here and said it is none of our business, that anger me because of high risk, people does not realize this. we are not baby machines and our bodies does not make to give birth to 20 children. If they use God's gifts, that is full of BS not after what happened to the twins last week. It still upset me today to think about them.

sara1981 · 11-09-2011, 08:06 PM

many millions mothers dies during birth when baby born and mostly baby never know mom is?

Some moms get save lifes during c-sections than natural birth but Michelle have experience c-sections and natural birth when their kids was born and Michelle plans to have VBAC after c-section.

Michelle been still breastfed when their kids was newborn till one years old when their premature daughter Josie was in NICU Michelle using pump breast to bring NICU at Ark Children's hospital because NICU have policy for moms using pump breast if you are breastfed many million moms can bring bottles to hospital visit their babies when prematures really fragiles.

i have agree with Jazzy for risks on mothers and expect Michelle also.

sara1981 · 11-09-2011, 10:15 PM

People Magazine on Duggars expecting baby 20

**Dixie** · 11-09-2011, 10:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeafCaroline

in alabama there was a large chicken farm near where my boyfriend lives. the smell is overwhelming every time we drive by and the farm wasn't even close to the road. made me wonder how workers inside those chicken houses cope. the neighbour who lives up the road, he also raises chickens but they have total free reign of the property, they never seem to take off even though they could. - you couldn't smell the shit at all and those were damn happy looking birds. I am wondering why can't birds be allowed outside of the houses if there are fences? What's the harm?

After a while, you get so used to the smell that you get a point to where you don't notice it. Right now I know the farm smells but I don't outright notice it. But if I left the farm for say a month and then come back I would say the farm does smell. I will say this, I can smell a dead chicken inside the chicken houses. When I come across that stench I start scattering the chickens until I find it and dispose of it.

**Dixie** · 11-09-2011, 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by jazzy

I have 25 hens and roosters in our backyard. during the day they are free to roaming but still need to be caution for hawks and owls. We already lost one to hawk last summer. We do not eat them because we already are attached to them. We collect eggs everyday and I need to go outside and clean their pen now before it gets dark and colder. Yes it smells if I do not clean everyday.

You can prevent hawk/owl attacks on your flock by placing netting over the top of their pen where they are allowed to roam freely outside. It doesnt block the sunlight, it just keeps unwanted birds out of your flock.

**mbrek** · 11-09-2011, 11:00 PM

I always buy free range chicken eggs. Chickens have to be happier running around!

I rode my bike past a turkey farm once. Looked like turkey jail. :-(

jazzy · 11-10-2011, 08:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dixie

You can prevent hawk/owl attacks on your flock by placing netting over the top of their pen where they are allowed to roam freely outside. It doesnt block the sunlight, it just keeps unwanted birds out of your flock.

We have fence over them at their pen but yesterday for some reason we could not find 4 chickens. Fear they flew over to next door where they have horses, goats and mini horses. Now I will keep ours in the coop till my husband clip their wings. My husband said he saw 2 ravens picked on baby rooster and hope he is allright because I have not see it since yesterday morning. I have been chased ravens everyday to keep them away from our yard. Gotta to go to work.

DeafCaroline · 11-10-2011, 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by mbrek

I always buy free range chicken eggs. Chickens have to be happier running around!

I rode my bike past a turkey farm once. Looked like turkey jail. :-(

to be on the safe side, google the name of the eggs you buy. "Free range" means the farmers have to leave the door of the barn or coop open...doesn't mean the chickens actually go out and run around, usually because they're so overcrowded they can't move.

Turkey jails - that's how I feel about chicken farms - there are long dark grey ominous buildings with no windows and no chickens in the fields - pretty creepy and sad.

jillio · 11-10-2011, 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Banjo

Right, I remember on the news, they did a walkthrough of the house. Wow, what a house! The kitchen and dining room is basically like a buffet. It was interesting to see what kind of a family they were.

I agree. We certainly don't see videos of the kids being beaten and then showing up on Dr. Phil.

11-08-2011, 11:21 PM	#662 (permalink)
sallylou Potterhead and Janeite Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: My own private Idaho Posts: 6,653	At 40, the risk of genetic problems sky rockets. 45-50 is even higher. Most women who have a baby after 40 have genetic testing. I just decided to take my husband up on his offer to be sterilized. He agreed no more babies. No worries now. __________________

11-08-2011, 11:38 PM	#663 (permalink)
mbrek Premium Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 1,512 Blog Entries: 1	While my personal reaction to 20 kids is "eeew", if they can support their family themselves it's their right to have them. I just think it's sad... how do you get to know each of your children when there are so many? It would be trying just to get through each day - I personally go for quality vs. quantity. But that's me. __________________ Sarcasm - just another little service I offer.

11-08-2011, 11:42 PM	#664 (permalink)
Dixie May I be found in Him Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Arkansas Posts: 13,266	Whats funny is I don't live that far from them yet I have never seen any of them in real life. __________________ Oh, you will. It is all a dream and since matter cannot be created nor destroyed, the dreams must be real in all their myriad forms. -Beowulf This Delicate Thing God Has Made *The world is measured in peasants; smaller than a unicorn but, bigger than a tidbit!*

11-08-2011, 11:44 PM	#665 (permalink)
mbrek Premium Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 1,512 Blog Entries: 1	It seems like the odds of that happening should be pretty good! __________________ Sarcasm - just another little service I offer.

11-08-2011, 11:51 PM	#666 (permalink)
Dixie May I be found in Him Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Arkansas Posts: 13,266	Yeah, I can be in their town in 2 hours from where I am at. I've been up there a couple of times, yet, I have never seen any of them. Maybe there's so many of them I just thought they were a random group of people if they were dressed differently and not the same and didn't stick out like a sore thumb. (Now if I saw a bunch of girls in a dress at the same time I would be thinking either Pentecostal women's group or Duggar girls.) But get this, now the Duggar family will have an aunt or uncle that is YOUNGER than a niece or nephew. The oldest Duggar son is married and his wife had a baby before this one was conceived. Now can you imagine keeping up with all those birthdays? __________________ Oh, you will. It is all a dream and since matter cannot be created nor destroyed, the dreams must be real in all their myriad forms. -Beowulf This Delicate Thing God Has Made *The world is measured in peasants; smaller than a unicorn but, bigger than a tidbit!*

11-08-2011, 11:16 PM	#661 (permalink)
Journey Registered User Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Canada Posts: 980	Basically I agree Jillio and Banjo but by allowing the world into their homes via their TV show, they have invited all compliments and criticisms as well. Personally, I admire the family - they are self-sufficient (due in a big part to their series however), have productive, educated, enthusiastic kids, and have - as they would say - a servant's heart. But I fear they are pushing their luck/blessings.

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11-08-2011, 11:58 PM	#668 (permalink)
sallylou Potterhead and Janeite Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: My own private Idaho Posts: 6,653	I can't even imagine calling each kid their right name. lol deafskeptic and mbrek like this. __________________

11-09-2011, 12:06 AM	#670 (permalink)
sallylou Potterhead and Janeite Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: My own private Idaho Posts: 6,653	Funny thing with kids, you get the names mixed up. I accidently call my youngest by my eldest's name. My hubby accidently called our eldest by his brother's name (whom he looked very much like). Sometimes, I resort to "Hey, you, redheaded one!" Motherhood makes you goofy that way. deafskeptic likes this. __________________

11-09-2011, 12:06 AM	#671 (permalink)
Dixie May I be found in Him Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Arkansas Posts: 13,266	But try having one named James and another named Jamie. You meant one but say the other because your tongue gets tied. I do it sometimes because there are two girls in our church, one is Madeline (there are two others besides my own) and there is one Madison. So often I will say one and mean the other especially if I am using the two names in rapid succession in conversation. Now in one SS class there is a Mindy, a Mandy, Madeline, Madison, and a Meghan. __________________ Oh, you will. It is all a dream and since matter cannot be created nor destroyed, the dreams must be real in all their myriad forms. -Beowulf This Delicate Thing God Has Made *The world is measured in peasants; smaller than a unicorn but, bigger than a tidbit!*

11-09-2011, 12:58 AM	#672 (permalink)
sara1981 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: North Little Rock,Ar Posts: 7,049	Duggars family always tradition names J for child's name never another A to Z its obey by their Duggars family chose names. Their older son and his wife chose name M for their child's name not same A to Z i respect that __________________

11-09-2011, 07:49 AM	#675 (permalink)
Dixie May I be found in Him Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Arkansas Posts: 13,266	The Duggar children also have to adhere to strict discipline, yes? Like the girls are expected to wear dresses all the time and are pushed towards being housewives rather than being able to pursue a career. The boys are pushed towards being the breadwinner for their families and are pushed towards going to college, getting a good job and so forth. I would think some of the children are going to grow up having a closer bond with the sibling that raised them rather than with the parents. They like their Bible time with daddy because that may be the only time they get to see their dad. I wouldn't mind having several siblings but I'm not sure I would want that many siblings. __________________ Oh, you will. It is all a dream and since matter cannot be created nor destroyed, the dreams must be real in all their myriad forms. -Beowulf This Delicate Thing God Has Made *The world is measured in peasants; smaller than a unicorn but, bigger than a tidbit!*

11-09-2011, 03:35 PM	#679 (permalink)
DeafCaroline Registered User Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 4,889	in alabama there was a large chicken farm near where my boyfriend lives. the smell is overwhelming every time we drive by and the farm wasn't even close to the road. made me wonder how workers inside those chicken houses cope. the neighbour who lives up the road, he also raises chickens but they have total free reign of the property, they never seem to take off even though they could. - you couldn't smell the shit at all and those were damn happy looking birds. I am wondering why can't birds be allowed outside of the houses if there are fences? What's the harm?

11-09-2011, 05:33 PM	#682 (permalink)
jazzy Registered User Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: High desert in Calif Posts: 4,208	Mother is in high risk pregnant and I hope she knows what she is doing. We already lost twins last week to TSS and blood clot, thankful the water broke instead of termiate 20 weeks pregnant to save mother's life. They were lived for 3 to 4 hours and they suffered. We are still in mourning and I hope this 20th child will be their last one. Too many women die from pregnant and childbirth. Now I know medical does not prevent death of mother and unborn babies at all. After I read here and said it is none of our business, that anger me because of high risk, people does not realize this. we are not baby machines and our bodies does not make to give birth to 20 children. If they use God's gifts, that is full of BS not after what happened to the twins last week. It still upset me today to think about them. __________________

11-09-2011, 08:06 PM	#683 (permalink)
sara1981 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: North Little Rock,Ar Posts: 7,049	many millions mothers dies during birth when baby born and mostly baby never know mom is? Some moms get save lifes during c-sections than natural birth but Michelle have experience c-sections and natural birth when their kids was born and Michelle plans to have VBAC after c-section. Michelle been still breastfed when their kids was newborn till one years old when their premature daughter Josie was in NICU Michelle using pump breast to bring NICU at Ark Children's hospital because NICU have policy for moms using pump breast if you are breastfed many million moms can bring bottles to hospital visit their babies when prematures really fragiles. i have agree with Jazzy for risks on mothers and expect Michelle also. __________________

11-09-2011, 11:00 PM	#687 (permalink)
mbrek Premium Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 1,512 Blog Entries: 1	I always buy free range chicken eggs. Chickens have to be happier running around! I rode my bike past a turkey farm once. Looked like turkey jail. :-( __________________ Sarcasm - just another little service I offer.

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