Tim become Kim at the age of 14!! - Page 4

Reba · 02-06-2007, 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Liebling:-)))

What if they ask you question then?

I would answer them, of course.

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... I let my boys watch TV "Show Talk" about Kim...

That wouldn't be my way but they're your kids.

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*sigh* you seem not want to understand. None, but Tim himself who is not happy with his body. It's him and his feeling, not us.

There has to be a reason.

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... I would suggest you to search the google to find out that Tim is not only one who consider himself as girl.

Why should I "google"? I've know about sexual reassignment treatments and surgeries for many years. The big difference with the Tim/Kim story is the age of the person going thru the process.

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The parents choose to tell their child the truth.

A very selective "truth". Such a weird family.

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I thought you know that the public talks, listen radios, TV, medias, newspapers, etc in the everywhere...? That's how the children learn from them....

Yes, I know about modern media. I used to work in that field. Duh! Just because it's available doesn't mean it's appropriate to allow children access to it.

Fo'Shizzle · 02-06-2007, 11:12 AM

At age 12? uggh........

Liebling:-))) · 02-07-2007, 05:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Reba

A very selective "truth". Such a weird family.

Anyone who choose to give their children honest answer or explain the honest examples in truthfully way for you is a werid. I remember your posts in my other threads that you don't like anyone who tell lies or make excuse... Here?

I would not judge you as werid mother for choose to lie or make up the stories to your children. Why have you judge the parents as werid for choose to tell their children in honest way?

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Yes, I know about modern media. I used to work in that field. Duh! Just because it's available doesn't mean it's appropriate to allow children access to it.

See? You know that we can't compare our old times with present times...

Reba · 02-07-2007, 07:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Liebling:-)))

Anyone who choose to give their children honest answer or explain the honest examples in truthfully way for you is a werid.

That's not what I said. Some people go way beyond simple honest answers to kids' questions. That is weird.

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... Here? I would not judge you as werid mother for choose to lie or make up the stories to your children...

That's good because I never lied or made up stories for my daughter or grandsons.

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Why have you judge the parents as werid for choose to tell their children in honest way?

Because they are going way beyond simply answering their questions.

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See? You know that we can't compare our old times with present times...

What does "old times" have to do with anything? I'm talking about today's children. There is no good reason to expose young children to sexually oriented movies, TV programs, music, books, web sites, etc.

Steel X · 02-07-2007, 04:01 PM

Omg!

dont get me wrong...i have nothing against gays and lesbians, but sex change?

thats a whole different story...

Steel X · 02-07-2007, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by VamPyroX

There was a Law & Order: Special Victims Unit episode where there was a set of boy-girl twins that was actually a set of boy-boy twins.

oh yeah i remember that episode! althou SVU is my most favorite show ever

the doctor has screwed it up when he was circumizing one of the boys and his penis have...*cough* "chopped off" *cough* and told the parents that he should be trained to be like a girl but didnt work since one time the parents saw "her" kissing another girl so obviously, its the horomones of the male's body being attracted to the opposite sex. thats one big problem that they wouldnt ever get it fixed...or would they? cause I rather like girls, thank you very much!

shel90 · 02-07-2007, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Reba

That's one kind of situation. Kids are viewing too many scenes on TV of people acting and speaking in sexually suggestive ways.

Being in the same room as a gay or transgendered person, and being exposed to explicit sex acts by anyone, are the two extremes. There's a range of experiences in between.

Sitting at a dining table with a group of people, straight, gay, or transgendered, is not a sexual situation, unless people begin discussing sexual topics, or acting in sexually suggestive ways. Straight or gay, that's not appropriate with children present.

My point is, why do children need to know what's happening in anyone's bedrooms? If they do have a curiosity, and ask questions, then fine, answer them. But most of the time, kids can enjoy their young lives without concerning themselves about what's happening in the grown-ups' bedrooms. Of course, part of the problem is bedroom activity is becoming more public and media activity.

Why can't kids just be kids for 12-14 years? They will have another 50-70 years left to worry about sexual relationships and situations. Isn't that enough?

Just 12-14 short years to ride bikes, skate, sled, read adventure stories, play with kittens and puppies, go fishing, jump rope, build Legos creations, act silly, play in the mud, climb trees, skip and tumble, make snowmen and snow forts, bounce a ball, collect sea shells and dead bugs, or just rest in the grass and look up at the clouds.

Sigh....

Dont I know it! Childhood is SO short! We are adults in most of our lifetimes so let the children enjoy their childhood and innocence as much as they can. I know TVs and media tend to portray sexual info. All we can try is to make sure our children are not exposed to anything that would be considered too mature for them. I know that I try my best. So far my 9 year old daughter seems clueless. Then again, I could be wrong about her cuz kids hear things at school.

Dark-Half · 02-10-2007, 03:20 AM

I've always been against this mental "im a boy/girl trapped in a girl/boy's body!!!" It's bullshit. I've seen the theories on it, that your mind is mapped out at birth what gender you are and gets 'coded' wrong. It's completely ridiculous. I'm going to be against it till hell freezes over, but as for other people? They can do what they want. Do explictly note I have gay/lesbian/asexual friends so it has nothing to do with it, I just think it's a load of bullshit. A theory based on twisted data at best. Unless someone has data or information that people have felt like they've been trapped in oppositive sex's bodies since the dawn of man- before all this gay biz has been blown out of portion and all over the media, I refuse to believe it as a medical condition. I think it's more of a mental disorder that happens while the child is growing, the things they see and such can confuse them and give them obscure ideas like that they are born into the wrong sort of sex.

Opal · 02-10-2007, 03:25 AM

Thank you Liebling for providing lots of German links here.

gnulinuxman · 02-10-2007, 04:32 AM

I do think I'm a girl in a guy's body, but I don't want to change because I don't really feel trapped. Especially since my soulmate is a girl--and a tomboy. She likes the way I am, and I'm liking the way I am now. My last gender identity test said I was 91% feminine, which is higher than most girls score on it!

But growing up, I had gender identity problems because I felt like a girl in a boy's body.

Most of this, I think, comes from the fact that girls who act like boys are respected these days, while boys who are girlish are ridiculed and harassed (I know I was...) and they assume we're gay. (I'm asexual, and in love with a girl, not gay.)

Those are my thoughts on this. Oh, and that's why I have a nice girly avatar and siggy.

Dark-Half · 02-10-2007, 05:28 AM

Lol, that confused me for the longest time. At least I know you're a guy now.

I have a theory, basically upon birth you're expected to act a certian way. Either feminine or macho. What if the behavior of acting feminine or macho has nothing to do with sex? What if it's just something as random as having blue or green eyes? That's a way more plausible explaination because we, as a society gave this astigmatism. Who's to say a guy can't act like a chick if he wants? I used to have a friend, a guy who wore cotton candy prefume from walmart solely because he liked it. He didn't give a damn what anyone thought of him and did what he pleased, I respected him for that though he was also an ass so... he also lost some respect. Anyways my point is I don't believe that people can be wired a girl and trapped in a boys body because the feminine/macho behavor is something we created (I'm assuming this.)

While it is medicinically documented that there ARE babies who are born both sexes, or females with male testicles inside undevloped completely and males with breasts. I think it's what, we, as humans learn as we grow and how we want to act. It wouldn't bother me being proven wrong as seeing it's highly plausible and the fact that we barely understand the human mind as-is and how it works, but until then it's just... too hard to accept.

gnulinuxman · 02-10-2007, 08:33 AM

Dark-Half: I think you're onto something. I just never felt a need to be macho at all (as my avatar and sig show clearly...)

Liebling:-))) · 02-27-2007, 05:36 AM

Interesting comments in this link.

Youngest sex change patient in the world is "doing well" - Blogging Baby

Liebling:-))) · 06-12-2007, 02:00 AM

Sex-change child wants operation sooner
Last Updated: 1:20am GMT 02/02/2007

Sex-change child wants operation sooner | Breaking News | News | Telegraph

PuyoPiyo · 06-12-2007, 05:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Liebling:-)))

Sex-change child wants operation sooner
Last Updated: 1:20am GMT 02/02/2007

Sex-change child wants operation sooner | Breaking News | News | Telegraph

Wow.. I felt sorry for Kim that he can't do the SRS till the age of 18 instead of 16. My opinion it's very wrong for the government to make the age law against the transsexual processing...

Liebling:-))) · 06-12-2007, 06:01 AM

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Originally Posted by PuyoPiyo

Wow.. I felt sorry for Kim that he can't do the SRS till the age of 18 instead of 16. My opinion it's very wrong for the government to make the age law against the transsexual processing...

what is SRS?

Yeah I support that she should have an operation at age 16 instead of 18.

PuyoPiyo · 06-12-2007, 06:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Liebling:-)))

what is SRS?

Yeah I support that she should have an operation at age 16 instead of 18.

Ohh SRS is summary for Sexual Reassigment Surgery

02-06-2007, 11:12 AM	#92 (permalink)
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02-10-2007, 03:20 AM	#98 (permalink)
Dark-Half Amor fati Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Idaho. Posts: 852	I've always been against this mental "im a boy/girl trapped in a girl/boy's body!!!" It's bullshit. I've seen the theories on it, that your mind is mapped out at birth what gender you are and gets 'coded' wrong. It's completely ridiculous. I'm going to be against it till hell freezes over, but as for other people? They can do what they want. Do explictly note I have gay/lesbian/asexual friends so it has nothing to do with it, I just think it's a load of bullshit. A theory based on twisted data at best. Unless someone has data or information that people have felt like they've been trapped in oppositive sex's bodies since the dawn of man- before all this gay biz has been blown out of portion and all over the media, I refuse to believe it as a medical condition. I think it's more of a mental disorder that happens while the child is growing, the things they see and such can confuse them and give them obscure ideas like that they are born into the wrong sort of sex. __________________ The world is a tragedy to those who feel, but a comedy to those who think.

02-10-2007, 03:25 AM	#99 (permalink)
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02-10-2007, 04:32 AM	#100 (permalink)
gnulinuxman Hearing girly-man Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Wisconsin, USA Posts: 1,740	I do think I'm a girl in a guy's body, but I don't want to change because I don't really feel trapped. Especially since my soulmate is a girl--and a tomboy. She likes the way I am, and I'm liking the way I am now. My last gender identity test said I was 91% feminine, which is higher than most girls score on it! But growing up, I had gender identity problems because I felt like a girl in a boy's body. Most of this, I think, comes from the fact that girls who act like boys are respected these days, while boys who are girlish are ridiculed and harassed (I know I was...) and they assume we're gay. (I'm asexual, and in love with a girl, not gay.) Those are my thoughts on this. Oh, and that's why I have a nice girly avatar and siggy. __________________ --Danny

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02-10-2007, 05:28 AM	#101 (permalink)
Dark-Half Amor fati Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Idaho. Posts: 852	Lol, that confused me for the longest time. At least I know you're a guy now. I have a theory, basically upon birth you're expected to act a certian way. Either feminine or macho. What if the behavior of acting feminine or macho has nothing to do with sex? What if it's just something as random as having blue or green eyes? That's a way more plausible explaination because we, as a society gave this astigmatism. Who's to say a guy can't act like a chick if he wants? I used to have a friend, a guy who wore cotton candy prefume from walmart solely because he liked it. He didn't give a damn what anyone thought of him and did what he pleased, I respected him for that though he was also an ass so... he also lost some respect. Anyways my point is I don't believe that people can be wired a girl and trapped in a boys body because the feminine/macho behavor is something we created (I'm assuming this.) While it is medicinically documented that there ARE babies who are born both sexes, or females with male testicles inside undevloped completely and males with breasts. I think it's what, we, as humans learn as we grow and how we want to act. It wouldn't bother me being proven wrong as seeing it's highly plausible and the fact that we barely understand the human mind as-is and how it works, but until then it's just... too hard to accept. __________________ The world is a tragedy to those who feel, but a comedy to those who think.

02-10-2007, 08:33 AM	#102 (permalink)
gnulinuxman Hearing girly-man Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Wisconsin, USA Posts: 1,740	Dark-Half: I think you're onto something. I just never felt a need to be macho at all (as my avatar and sig show clearly...) __________________ --Danny

02-27-2007, 05:36 AM	#103 (permalink)
Liebling:-))) Hiiiiiii it's meeeeee Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Germany Posts: 24,905	Interesting comments in this link. Youngest sex change patient in the world is "doing well" - Blogging Baby

06-12-2007, 02:00 AM	#104 (permalink)
Liebling:-))) Hiiiiiii it's meeeeee Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Germany Posts: 24,905	Sex-change child wants operation sooner Last Updated: 1:20am GMT 02/02/2007 Sex-change child wants operation sooner \| Breaking News \| News \| Telegraph __________________ sniffing you

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