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Unread 01-23-2007, 06:21 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Hurricane Causes Massive Damage to German Forests

I know I did posted some and share with ADers in my other thread where it was happened last Thursday... Lucky it doesn't affect my house and garden... It was affected on my garage and garden in 1990 but not last Thursday... It's terrible to withness the strong windstorm from window. It's scary, I tell you.

Sadly that the people killed... Check link of my other thread where I post some to.

I saw some of trees in forest where I live is damage... I know it's worst in North Germany...



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Forestry officials said the hurricane that tore through Germany killing 11 people last week also knocked down 40 million trees. The damage was expected to cost the industry dearly.

The German Forestry Council estimated that the storm toppled some 20 million cubic meters (706 cubic feet) of wood, which would cost the country's forestry industry about 1 billion euros ($1.3 billion) in lost revenue and damages.

The council also said on Monday it did not expect a drastic fall in the price of wood as demand for lumber has been higher than planned supplies would have provided. Some 62 million trees are said to have topped across Europe.

Bildunterschrift: Großansicht des Bildes mit der Bildunterschrift: Just over half the trees that fell in Germany were in North Rhine-Westphalia
The effects of the hurricane, which struck Germany Thursday night, were not as serious on a national scale as previous storms the country has experienced. But it did have major consequences in some regions.

The western state of North Rhine-Westphalia suffered the worst damage. The state lost some 25 million trees, with older spruces among the hardest hit, according to state forestry officials.

Spruce trees in the low mountain ranges and forests of central and eastern Germany were also knocked down. State officials in Saxony and Thuringia said they expected to find at least 1 million cubic meters of fallen trees, adding that they have been unable to assess the damages completely.

A spokesman for the Harz National Park said the 1,142-meter (3,745-foot) Brocken Mountain acted as a brake for the storm. Park representatives said they had also not make an evaluation of the storm's total damages.

Trains still delayed

Bildunterschrift: Großansicht des Bildes mit der Bildunterschrift: A storm warning forced the Berlin train station to shut on Sunday
Rail passengers were still experiencing delays and many local trains had yet to return to the tracks four days after the storm blew over Germany, according to Deutsche Bahn. The German rail company said it expected train travel to return to normal by Wednesday.

But PR is still the Bahn's largest problem after part of the roof of Berlin's new main train station collapsed, causing it to be temporarily closed on Sunday for the second time in a week. A Bahn spokesman on Monday said those responsible would be "held legally and financially responsible." Exactly who was responsible for the collapse has not been determined. The station was able to reopen on Sunday night.

Bildunterschrift: Großansicht des Bildes mit der Bildunterschrift: The Dionysus mosaic dates back to the third century

Preliminary repairs allowing the train station to withstand a similar storm were scheduled to be finished by the end of the week.

Officials at Cologne's Romano-Germanic Museum said the storm damaged a mosaic of Dionysus in about 50 spots, but added that the image of the wine god himself remained unharmed.
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Killer Winds in Europe Expected to Cause Heavy Financial Loss

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The storm that lashed northern Europe on Thursday is estimated to have caused more than one billion euros in damage to Germany, among the countries worst hit by the storm which killed at least 44 people across Europe.

The storm claimed 11 lives in Germany, halted rail services and forced the closure of Berlin's central train station after a girder collapsed, authorities said Friday.

For the first time in its history, the Deutsche Bahn national railway company suspended all services across the country as a precautionary measure after high winds blew trees on to the tracks.

Thousands of travelers were forced to spend the night in railway stations or seek emergency accommodation after train services across the country were cancelled.

Bildunterschrift: Großansicht des Bildes mit der Bildunterschrift: Passengers stranded at stations slept where they could
Rail services were gradually returning to normal Friday but passengers were warned they faced further delays. "We're not taking any risks as far as passengers are concerned," said Hartmut Mehdorn, the head of the national rail company Deutsche Bahn, in justifying the unprecedented step.

Berlin's brand new central station, the biggest in Europe, was closed Thursday when high winds tore a steel girder from its high-tech facade. The two-ton girder fell 40 meters (130 feet) on to a stairway, police said. "No-one was hurt, thank God," said Volker Knauer, the Deutsche Bahn spokesman for the station.

The station was re-opened to passengers by lunchtime Friday, but train services remained heavily disrupted.

Embarassing blow to flagship station

Bildunterschrift: Großansicht des Bildes mit der Bildunterschrift: Berlin's new station took a battering from the storm
Structural engineers were seeking to establish why the steel and glass building, which only opened eight months ago after being built for an estimated cost of one billion euros (1.29 billion dollars), had failed to withstand the first storm it has had to contend with.

Press reports said the storm, named "Kyrill" by German meteorologists, was the most powerful in the country in about 30 years, with winds gusting up to more than 200 kilometers (120 miles) per hour.

Many schools and businesses closed early on Thursday before the full force of the storm struck, bringing torrential rain and flooding to some areas, including parts of Berlin.

Eleven lives lost across Germany

Bildunterschrift: Großansicht des Bildes mit der Bildunterschrift: Germany's autobahns became particularly trecherous
Authorities said the death toll in the storm had risen to 11 after a motorist was killed in the northwestern state of North-Rhine Westphalia when he crashed into a tree uprooted by the wind.

Another four people have died in the state died when they were hit by falling trees, including two firemen.

An 18-month-old baby died after being crushed by a door which was ripped off its hinges by high winds in Munich, in the southern state of Bavaria, while a 73-year-old man was killed in Augsburg after a barn door fell on him.

In the eastern state of Saxony-Anhalt, a man died when he was trapped under a collapsed wall in a restaurant. Three drivers were crushed by trees in Baden-Württemberg, in the central town of Hildesheim and in Strausberg, near Berlin.

Museums hit; flights disrupted

Several cultural buildings were damaged in the storm, including the church in the eastern town of Wittenberg where Martin Luther nailed his 95 theses to the door in the 16th century.

A Cologne museum housing a priceless mosaic dating back to Roman times suffered damage and the wind blew the roof off an archive holding documents about the Nazis' victims at the site of the Sachsenhausen concentration camp outside Berlin. "Luckily there was little damage to the collection," the spokesman for the museum, Horst Seferens, said.

Bildunterschrift: Großansicht des Bildes mit der Bildunterschrift: The storm brought chaos to airports across the country
After canceling hundreds of flights Thursday, air traffic was also returning to normal in Germany Friday.

Germany's national carrier Lufthansa said it had been forced to cancel 331 flights around Europe, affecting almost 19,000 passengers. The country's busiest airport, Frankfurt, said it had grounded 207 of its 1,300 daily flights Thursday.

Though European insurers say it's too early to calculate the cost of damages inflicted by the storm, early indications say the bill is expected to be massive.

The German insurance association, the GDV, said insured
storm damage in the country could total around 1 billion euros
($1.3 billion).

Germany's biggest insurer Allianz said it had set up 24-hour
hotlines for its customers and that damage assessment teams were
working throughout the country.
Killer Winds in Europe Expected to Cause Heavy Financial Loss | Europe | Deutsche Welle | 18.01.2007
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I got an official email at hour ago...

Its saying Heavy snowfalls expected (6 - 8 inches) today to 25 Jan, in the area where I live.

bbrrrr... I'm going to turn heater on to protect freezing on heat pipes....
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I got an official email at hour ago...

Its saying Heavy snowfalls expected (6 - 8 inches) today to 25 Jan, in the area where I live.

bbrrrr... I'm going to turn heater on to protect freezing on heat pipes....
Ouch... Hopefully your home will stand and good...
turn up the heater higher.. ain't fun about $$$$ higher the bill comes in.
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Yeah, I am sorry to hear about the forest being destroyed by the hurricane. I think the German Army will help re-plant the trees with seeds. I do hope you will be able to pay the heating bills and if you can't then just pay half of the bill, that way you keep the heat turned on and then save what you can and in the summer time pay off the rest of the heating bill and save as much money you can for next winter.
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I hope it doesn't go crazy with weather in Germany, so the German team can come here to SLC for the Deaflympic Games! lach... All kidding aside, wow, it's really crazy how the weather changes so fast. ist so umgekehrt.
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Germany have hurricanes? No way!
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Unfortunlately yes, they have hurricanes... Very strong windstorm...


K75, yeah weather... The weather had been "spring" for long until last week... I started to turn heater on...
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Unfortunlately yes, they have hurricanes... Very strong windstorm...


K75, yeah weather... The weather had been "spring" for long until last week... I started to turn heater on...
Are you sure it's called a hurricane? Maybe Germans call it a hurricane? The waters there are too cold for real hurricanes to survive. I believe it's their way of saying windstorms. We had a strong windstorm here on Dec, too. It caused lot of damage to the houses, uprooted trees, killed some people in the way.
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Are you sure it's called a hurricane? Maybe Germans call it a hurricane? The waters there are too cold for real hurricanes to survive. I believe it's their way of saying windstorms. We had a strong windstorm here on Dec, too. It caused lot of damage to the houses, uprooted trees, killed some people in the way.
Yes... Check my other thread.

2006: Germany's Warmest Year in More than a Century


Many house damage in North than South Germany... many forest damages. You can see the pictures of trees, roof, etc. It was happeend in 1990, now again last Thursday.

We have 160 kph windstorm in my area where I live last week and more than 160 kph in Northern Germany... It killed people...
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I am sorry for the loss of life there as we lose some lives here too from storm recently. I am with Sequoia here about hurricanes and I am confuse here about to read that Germany has hurricanes. I did not know Germany get hurricane from south which come from warm water. Do they have name for it? Do they have an eye of the storm? Maybe in different language hurricane mean different to Germans than to Americans? Hurricanes only come from center of earth just alike typhoons hit in Asia and Pacific islands they don't hit America.
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Yes... Check my other thread.

2006: Germany's Warmest Year in More than a Century


Many house damage in North than South Germany... many forest damages. You can see the pictures of trees, roof, etc. It was happeend in 1990, now again last Thursday.

We have 160 kph windstorm in my area where I live last week and more than 160 kph in Northern Germany... It killed people...
I am sorry to hear this. 160 kph is equal to mph??
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160 kph is 100 mph, and yes Europe does have their shares of hurricanes, believe it or not. The German word, Orkan, was widely used in the German news recently relating to this storm, and in the dictionary, it says hurricane or cyclone.
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Yes K75 is correct about hurricane "Orkan" and kph... It written in link of my other thread.

I found around 11 inches deep white snow front of house this morning... Funny, my cat Kim tried to escape out of the house and nearly "drown" herself in the deep snow... the snow cover her body and she tried to "climb" up the snow and ran into my house... then I know how deep snow is after saw Kim ...

It took me long to push the snow out of my garage for let my car go... It takes me one hour to arrive at work... yes one and half hour late at work place than right working time.

I got an official email today saying that more snow will be expect today...
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I just got an official email telling me to go home... German time: 10.55 am
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And around 11 inches deep snow is everywhere today...
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Wow, soviel Schnee... Mano, can you bring all the snow to SLC for Deaflympics? lach.... It is still very cold here in SLC. I hope you keep warm and have a safe journey back to home!
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Hurricanes are large tropical storms with heavy winds. By definition, they contain winds in excess of 74 miles per hour (119 km per hour) and large areas of rainfall. In addition, they have the potential to spawn dangerous tornadoes. The strong winds and excessive rainfall also produce abnormal rises in sea levels and flooding...

The ocean-water temperature has to be above 79 degrees F in order for a hurricane to be generated, so they normally form in late summer and early fall when the conditions are right. Meteorologists use the term tropical storm when a storm's winds are under 74 miles per hour, and hurricane when the wind speed rises. A hurricane has a peaceful center called the eye, that is often distinctive in satellite images. The eye stretches from 10 to 30 miles wide and often contains calm winds, warm temperatures and clear skies. Around this tropical bliss is a frenzy of winds gusting at speeds up to 186 miles per hour...

HOW ARE HURRICANES FORMED?
Hurricanes begin as tropical storms over the warm moist waters of the Atlantic and Pacific Oceans near the equator. (Near the Phillippines and the China Sea, hurricanes are called typhoons.) As the moisture evaporates it rises until enormous amounts of heated moist air are twisted high in the atmosphere. The winds begin to circle counterclockwise north of the equator or clockwise south of the equator. The reatively peaceful center of the hurricane is called the eye. Around this center winds move at speeds between 74 and 200 miles per hour. As long as the hurricane remains over waters of 79F or warmer, it continues to pull moisture from the surface and grow in size and force. When a hurricane crosses land or cooler waters, it loses its source of power, and its wind gradually slow until they are no longer of hurricane force--less than 74 miles per hour.

Hurricanes over the Atlantic often begin near Africa, drift west on the Trade Winds, and veer north as they meet the prevalling winds coming eastward across North America. Hurricanes over the Eastern Pacific begin in the warm waters off the Central American and Mexican coasts. Eastern and Central Pacific storms are called "hurricanes." Storms to the west of the International Date Line are called "typhoons."
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It takes many days for a hurricane to form and move towards land. I'm shocked that the Germans didn't get more warning so they could prepare for the storm. We usually get several days warning when a hurricane is coming so that we can safely prepare and/or evacuate.
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It takes many days for a hurricane to form and move towards land. I'm shocked that the Germans didn't get more warning so they could prepare for the storm. We usually get several days warning when a hurricane is coming so that we can safely prepare and/or evacuate.
Don´t you read my other thread?

Yes we were being warned and follow their warning and prepare ourselves. I was sent home an earlier and cancelled doctor appointment and Fitness Studio to stay home with my family and prepare things from garden to garage, etc... My hubby cancel to go work to stay at home with us... A lot of people do that... but I don´t know why the some people ignored the warning... 32 people around Germany are killed. Windstorm is not in some states but the whole around Germany...
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Don´t you read my other thread?

Yes we were being warned and follow their warning and prepare ourselves. I was sent home an earlier and cancelled doctor appointment and Fitness Studio to stay home with my family and prepare things from garden to garage, etc... My hubby cancel to go work to stay at home with us... A lot of people do that... but I don´t know why the some people ignored the warning... 32 people around Germany are killed. Windstorm is not in some states but the whole around Germany...
You were warned only a few hours ahead. When hurricane warnings are announced, they are several days before the hurrincane hits. Hurricane tracking usually starts one or two weeks before it hits.
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You were warned only a few hours ahead. When hurricane warnings are announced, they are several days before the hurrincane hits. Hurricane tracking usually starts one or two weeks before it hits.
We already aware at few weeks ago that the severe weather will come... Accord Sunshinelady´s post in my other thread and accord New TV, the severe weather will come and remind us about the weather in 1990.

My boys told me in breakfast time after listen the radio that the windstorm will start between 4.00 pm and 6.00 pm before I left for work... I told my co-worker what my sons had told me... She said yes... and then got an offical email at around 9.00 pm... this is so... and inform my hubby for preparation. We are asked to leave work place at 2.30 pm to prepare anything... We have no problem for that... We have seen many people prepared things as well with no complaint... We have no complaint, either.

At Katrina, thousands people killed and few people killed around in Germany. I don´t understand why you get shock... It takes us only few hours to prepare things... Hurriances can´t whip houses with bricks out... All what we do is stay in the house because we know that hurriances can´t whip the houses with brick away... If house with wood then is bad... they have to stay at someone´s brick house.
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We already aware at few weeks ago that the severe weather will come...
Do you mean you had a hurricane Kyrill warning a few weeks ago?

Are you sure it was an actual tropical storm hurricane, with an eye and eye wall? Or was it a storm with hurricane-force winds? Do you have link to the satellite picture? That will clearly show the hurricane formation.


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My boys told me in breakfast time after listen the radio that the windstorm will start between 4.00 pm and 6.00 pm before I left for work...
That's what I mean. That's only a few hours warning. Hurricanes always have several days warning.


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At Katrina, thousands people killed and few people killed around in Germany. I don´t understand why you get shock... It takes us only few hours to prepare things... Hurriances can´t whip houses with bricks out... All what we do is stay in the house because we know that hurriances can´t whip the houses with brick away... If house with wood then is bad... they have to stay at someone´s brick house.
Most hurricane casualities are from the ocean storm surge and flooding, not wind damage.
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Yeah, I am sorry to hear about the forest being destroyed by the hurricane. ...
Yes, that is sad. It takes many years for forests to grow mature trees. I hope they can make good use of all the lumber from the damaged trees.
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Are you sure it's called a hurricane? Maybe Germans call it a hurricane? The waters there are too cold for real hurricanes to survive. I believe it's their way of saying windstorms. We had a strong windstorm here on Dec, too. It caused lot of damage to the houses, uprooted trees, killed some people in the way.

same thing I thought never hit in Europe. I was search link and found one. It was very interesting. Here link Wunder Blog : Weather Underground
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Do you mean you had a hurricane Kyrill warning a few weeks ago?
No, I didn´t know the word of Kyrill but Orkan.. I didn´t watch on TV much. I really have no time to watch on TV... but rarely. All what I know is "severe weather" from my co-workers, my hubby (he watch on TV after came home from work at 10.30pm) and boys until that day... my boys told me about windstorm between 4pm and 6pm at breakfast time...

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Are you sure it was an actual tropical storm hurricane, with an eye and eye wall? Or was it a storm with hurricane-force winds? Do you have link to the satellite picture? That will clearly show the hurricane formation.
I would say severe windstorm after withnessed from window.. .not form of hurricane like Katrina, etc. in America. I was like Ohhhh when the German media call it hurriance "Orkan"... I aware the form of hurriance what we have is different as in America. I will try to provide the link as what you require.

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That's what I mean. That's only a few hours warning. Hurricanes always have several days warning.
Yes I know but we still have no problem for that... We follow their warning and prepare things straight way.

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Yes I know what you mean... I will try to search more links... Can you please help me if I can´t find some links?
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TFWFalcon, thank you for link... I appreciate it very much...

Is that what you are looking for, Reba?
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TFWFalcon, thank you for link... I appreciate it very much...

Is that what you are looking for, Reba?
Kind of. It is an interesting link, and it does explain more. But the satellite picture doesn't look like a hurricane.

Here are some examples of hurricane images:

Posters, prints and satellite images of Hurricanes and tropical storms from Abama Inc.
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I found the example what you want to see, Reba...

Umwelt - Gesellschaft - FAZ.NET - Orkan „Kyrill“: Die Bahn steht still - mindestens 16 Todesopfer

FAZ.NET - Aktuell - Gesellschaft - Umwelt

Sorry, this is only German language... but you can see the pictures and satellite.

Tell me what you do think of this?
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