Banjo

Eh?

If the an expectant mother is still carrying her baby past the due date, she will be induced within two weeks. I know a lot of mothers who were induced. In fact, a lot of them set up appointments prior to the due date as a precaution.

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Sorry I don't trust Obama and John Edwards since I can feel that they are not right for the job to run as president.

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Reba

The report was talking about women with possible preemie or complicated births who had to wait for specialist pre-natal care. But the baby keeps developing and moving towards delivery without waiting for an appointment. Babies don't recognize appointments or waiting lines.

If mom knows the baby is due in two weeks, and the next available appointment is in five weeks, what good is that?

p.s. Sorry for the delay. We had a minor fire emergency here. OK now.

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Banjo

In Ontario, you are given the option to get a midwife so they can check up on you on a frequent basis. Especially if you're concerned about these types of birth issues.

Anyway, that's not what I meant about the appointment. What I said was that if you don't deliver the baby after your due date, they will perform a forced birth within 2 weeks.

If your water breaks, you will get immediate attention. No doubt about that.

Reba

Let's hope so!

I'm just presenting the report. You can take it or leave it. I'm not going to defend it or dispute it. I just wanted to show that there are two sides to this controversy.

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Liebling:-)))

Yes it make sense. I know a lot of mothers like that in UK, too.

I know straight way it´s illogical when I read Reba´s link. I know that medias often write extreme and illogical things.

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Liebling:-)))

[QUOTE] Do you think I buy the medias story about mothers-to-be go to USA to have their babies to aviod waiting list...

I can see that you tried to defend or dispute other countries. All what I do is stop and positive you what I know from my Canadian friends. I heard no complaints from them but medias... I rather to see canadians´ comments, to compare with media´s word, not just media.

I bet GalaxyAngel will laugh your post, too because she is a Canadian and expect her baby next week.

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Liebling:-)))

[QUOTE]Sometimes mean is not always... no good...




What they did is dishonestly, period.

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Liebling:-)))

[QUOTE]Good, I only want to make sure which DVD you referred to.

Yes, I showed Maria what my John Q movie says.

Anyway, I know before Maria thought that it´s true story that the movie is a fiction but those movie is a "wake-up" calling for everyone who don´t have health insurance.

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Liebling:-)))

You are an adult and know how to manage with money and how to compare the profit, don´t you?

What you beleive in is your choice.

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Liebling:-)))

I found English website for you.

Vitamin C - Simple English Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Most fruits have vitamin C and some meats, vegetables.

For flu, I would advise you to drink hot lemon. Lemon have high vitamin C.

Just squeeze one lemon and then add hot water into the cup. You can add some sugar if taste is bitter. Keep drink when hot lemon is still hot.

I often drink hot lemon without sugar.

I hope this link will helps
Yahoo! Answers - How many times a day can you take vitamin C?

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Liebling:-)))

Americans need Hillary´s health plan.

Hillary's American Health Choices Plan
HillaryClinton.com - View Post

Daily Kos: BREAKING! Hillary's American Health Choice Plan


Many comments shared their sad and bad experience touch my heart... It´s very sad to read their stories, that´s why they support Hillary fully... Their sad experiences is rare brain disease, rare support to survive themselves... private health insurance expensives, feel being trapped, chemo therapy, cancer, etc. private health insurance refuse pay, etc. (similar as John Q´s movie), divorced parents - no family health insurance..., cannot afford to visit doctor, discrimination, negative about medicare, etc...

One of 74 comments: "My husband is totally disabled and on Medicare. He is currently in the "donut hole" and we are spending 1600.00 a month for prescriptions alone"

Other comment:
"My husband has skin cancer and we can't go to a doctor to get it checked because we can't afford it. I haven't had a genealogical exam in 7 years! I haven't seen a dentist in 7 years. I've suffered with pain in my joints and muscles for 5 years that gets worse and worse with each passing day and I can't afford to see a doctor and find out what it is."

I can see from that comments that EVERYONE SHOULD BE COVER BY INSURANCE!!!!!!!

PLEASE HELP BY VOTING FOR HILARY BECAUSE EVERYONE NEED INSURANCE TO BE SURVIVE AND KEEP HEALTH.

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Reba

No, it means that not all cases require social workers' intervention.


People will charge whatever the market will bear. That's how all businesses run.

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Reba

I showed you the 90-page report by CANADIAN people in a CANADIAN group but you don't except it. You say that you want to see Canadians' comments but you ignore them when I show you.


What does GA's baby have to do with those other mothers' stories? No one said that ALL mothers leave Canada to give birth. It's very frustrating to try to explain things to you when you don't apply logic to your conclusions.

Please show me proof that any of the following article is false.

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Reba

Show me mathematical proof that Hillary's plan will save me money.

If you can't do that, then quit blowing smoke.

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Reba

Right, and King Kong is a "wake-up" call for everyone to not mess with big monkeys.

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Liebling:-)))

[QUOTE]No matter either "not always" or "not all" It should be ALL or 100% sure, not "sometimes".

Like what we talked about at other thread that every business owners can do what they want is no problem but they offer for that same material to their customers different prices is cheat and dishonestly. The price, they decide should be remain no matter either their customer have insurance or not.

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Liebling:-)))

If you think I can´t do that is your problem, not mine.

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The comparison you made is a fallicious.

John Q´s movie is a good example for the million people who don´t have health insurance. The fact is over million people don´t have health insurance but compare King Kong with big monkey? *scratch my head*

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Reba

It's ironic. You don't trust the "media" but you trust blogs.

You don't mind pontificating on American choices but heaven forbid an American tell Germans who or what to vote for.

That one comment from the guy on Medicare; in Hillary's plan he would still be under Medicare, so how would his situation improve?

If Hillary's plan is so wonderful, how come none of the other Democratic candidates came up with it?

So does that mean small businesses are not required to provide health care to their employees? It says that Hillary would give tax credits to the small business that provide coverage; apparently, not all businesses will provide coverage. So what about those people?

Also, it says "Hillary would give tax credits." Since when can one person give tax credits to another?

What will be the incentive to keep health costs down?

It's obvious that this is a propaganda puff piece and not true hard news story at all.

Please stick to the facts, not feelings and opinions, when discussing proposed laws.

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Reba

You can't show me proof because there is no proof. You think that just because you say something we should like it's fact from on high.

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Reba

...and how many people had to resort to holding a gun on hostages to get a transplant?

ZERO! That's the same number as people killed by King Kong. ZERO!

John Q is fake the same as King Kong is fake. The only difference is, the original King Kong is more popular and longer lasting.

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Liebling:-)))

[QUOTE]No, I do not ignore your link or not accuse article as a false but just that I need both sides between article and people´s comments. I do READ your link but it´s media´s word. I need to view people´s side then I can compare their side with media´s word.

Those same link, you provided in your previous post. FOXNews.com - Canada's Expectant Moms Heading to U.S. to Deliver - Local News | News Articles | National News | US News I don´t see people´s comments in those link but just Canadian media. Can you show me where is their comments because I can´t find them in your link. I only read the Canadian media, not people´s comments. I alway provide the link of media with many people´s comments because I like to hear both sides between medias and people´s comments/views how and what they experienced and agree or disagree with media. I showed you the link of media or blogs with people´s comments of their views. See the example... What Countries Have Universal Health Care? - Gadling They have many comments in those media or blogs.

Accord the Canadian article, they don´t have enough bed for mother-to-be that´s why they send them to USA. It could be that their insurance cover the cost for mother-to-be over to USA?

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Reba

Why should the family use a social worker if they can solve it themselves? The social worker is there to help if the parties can't resolve it themselves. Some people don't want the social worker's help, and shouldn't be forced to use it.


It's not cheating if the customers are willing to pay the price, and if they are informed.

Do you think the same prices are charged for merchandise and services in wealthy areas as in poverty areas? Of course not. In the United States, the same commodities vary in price depending on location. It has nothing to do with cheating. It's whatever the market will bear.

The only time that principle doesn't apply is in socialistic and communistic societies where the government controls everything.

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fredfam1

Advocates of universal health coverage like to trot out the statistic that about 46 million Americans lack health care coverage, a number based on Census data from 2005. But the figure is misleading.

Most people, upon hearing that so many Americans lack health insurance, automatically assume it is because they can't afford it, but the Census study tells a different story. More than 17 million of those counted as uninsured earn more than $50,000 a year, including almost 9 million who make over $75,000 a year. Some of these people are, no doubt, self-employed, healthy and young, which is why they choose not to buy health insurance for themselves. Since there are few options out there for catastrophic coverage -- the kind that will take care of your bills if you're injured in a car crash or suddenly get cancer -- many of these Americans opt not to spend the money on expensive comprehensive health insurance, just as many people choose not to buy life insurance. Does it make sense to force them to do so?

What's more, nearly half of the 46 million uninsured remain so for only a brief time, on average four months. Many of these persons are between jobs and choose not to pay the premiums for continued coverage available to most persons covered by an employer-provided health plan if they lose or quit their jobs.

Finally, of the remaining uninsured, about 10 million are non-citizens, including an unknown number of illegal aliens.

So, when the numbers are dissected, the health care "crisis" comes down to, according to some estimates, fewer than 10 million Americans who lack long-term access to health care coverage.

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fredfam1

I do not have health insurance because I choose not to.

1. If I really needed it I can get it at no cost to me. (except
for the nosey government wanting to do a fianancial and
personal rectal exam involving them wanting to know too
much info about me and my family)

2. There are even private low cost Christian Ins organizations
I could join and I just found out that for a very low cost,
because I home school I can get my kids on the public
school emergency insurance program.

3.In addition when a catastrophic accident occurs the local community
always gathers around to help out the uninsured. And in this state
you are automatically enrolled in the Oregon Health Care Plan if you want.

I refuse to support any candidate who wants to make it the LAW that I
buy health insurance. It is another erosion of personal liberties and individual
rights. Next thing you know the government will mandate abortions like
they do in China. DON'T GIVE THE GOVERNMENT AN INCH! They will take
more than the mile.

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Reba

You do know that the Daily Kos is not an impartial "news" source, right?

It's a left-wing Democrat-supporting blog site.

Do you really believe they provide unbiased reporting?

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fredfam1

The facts are: Other than totally meaningless legislation like changing the names on courthouses and post offices, she has passed only four substantive pieces of legislation. One, set up a national park in Puerto Rico . A second provided respite care for family members helping their relatives through Alzheimer’s or other conditions. And two were routine bills to aid 9-11 victims and responders which were sponsored by the entire NY delegation.

Here is what bothers me more than anything else about Hillary Clinton. She has done everything possible to weaken the President and our country (that’s you and me!) when it comes to the war on terror.

1. She wants to close GITMO & move the combatants to the USA where they would have access to our legal system.
2. She wants to eliminate the monitoring of suspected Al Qeada phone calls to/from the USA .
3. She wants to grant constitutional rights to enemy combatants captured on the battlefield.
4. She wants to eliminate the monitoring of money transfers between suspected Al Qeada cells & supporters in the USA.
5. She wants to eliminate the type of interrogation tactics used by the military & CIA where coercion might be used when questioning known terrorists, even though such tactics might save American lives.


I can’t think of a single bill Hillary has introduced or a single comment she has made that would tend to strengthen our country in the War on Terror. But, I can think of a lot of comments she has made that weakens our country & makes it a more dangerous situation for all of us ……..She goes hand in hand with the ACLU on far too many issues where common sense is abandoned. !

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Liebling:-)))

Again, the comparison you made is a fallicious because John Q is a human and King Kong is an animal.

I would compare John Q. who threated with gun on the hostages with the people who threaten guns on the hostages at Airports, Bank, schools, etc. for the reasons like money, ransom, etc. It could be happen... but King Kong? King Kong don't threat the hostages with gun...

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Liebling:-)))

[QUOTE]Blogs is similar as any Forums - the members provided the links from the websites over their blogs or any Forums like what we did here... Right? Do you mean that you also don't trust the Forums as well? I only took from websites where they add the links from websites to add their blogs or Forum. I do provide the links over here and several thread often.

I often said in several threads that I don't alway take one sided but two sided. If the articles welcome comments then is good because I like to see both sides either they agree or not.

wow, *speechless* I am a human like everyone. Am I an inhuman or what? Are you a racist that's because I am not an American?

Anyway, Alex would not welcome me to his American Forum if he know I am not an American, don't he? It's nice of him to treat me like being a human like everyone no matter where I come from, don't he?



You ask Hillary, not me.


Let me explain the example about small businesses because it's similar to European countries. They support employees and the owner or self-employer of small businesses with taxes/social insurance issues, not big businesses/companies. The big business/company owners pay 50% taxes and social insurance for their employees/workers and then show how much they spending a year to Tax Officer... Depend how much then they will get refund or not... They will get tax credits thru Tax Officer.

All business/company owners get tax credits - depend how much taxes/social insurance, gasoline cost for deliver, etc. they spending on a year. They also get business licescne for % discount tax for anything when they want to buy, etc.

We all get tax credit on depend what we spend and what we have...

Example:
we (people) get % discount of tax credit accord
married
how many children
disablity
divorce
widow
gasoline used

but I don't know what Hillary plan for tax credits for her people in America. I will have a look at her plan for tax credits.

We leave our annual spending including taxes, social insurances, gasoline used for travel to work and accompany children to doctors, dental, hospitail etc. to Tax Officer then we get the tax refund every year.





I am not really an Expert but I read those article and must say that it does same to EU countries as well. All what I know is our medicine needs, therapies or surgery are never being deny, no matter either I am work or out of work or long illness. My hubby was not work for 6 months after knee surgery. He still received treatment and sick pay from healthcare to keep our mortage house survive and support family.

Do you mean that I should not show comments's posts about their experiences because they are not "fact" but feelings and opinions? OR Hillary should not show her feeling for her people and children in America and should not listen their feelings and opinions because they are not facts?

The law CAN change and improve after listen people's feeling and opinion and also discuss their views, too.

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