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Update on Terri Schiavo Something is up !!!!
I got this in my e-mail. You guys need to know what is up. Her evil ex-husband is up to something and is greedy and playing with fire in politics.
This CONSERVATIVE ALERT is a special message for HEATH AUSTIN from the RightMarch.com PAC: Dear HEATH AUSTIN, This is a very difficult letter for me to write. But I'm asking you to PLEASE, read it all the way through. I'm sure you remember last year, when judicial activists and liberal politicians worked together and starved an innocent young disabled woman to death -- Terri Schindler Schiavo. I remember it all too well. I was there in Florida, trying to save Terri's life. Contrary to anything you may have heard, Terri was NOT brain dead; Terri was NOT in a coma; she was NOT in a "persistent vegetative state;" nor was she on ANY life-support system. Terri laughed, Terri cried, she moved, and she made child-like attempts at speech with her family. Sometimes she would say "Mom" or "Dad" or "yeah" when they asked her a question. When her mother or father kissed her hello or goodbye, she would look at them and "pucker up" her lips. This may not seem like much to you, but it meant everything to Terri's family. It told them she was still there, she still knew them, and with therapy and time she could have had some level of recovery. I know that there are some hard-hearted people who believe that due to Terri Shiavo's condition, she is better off dead. Words cannot describe the pain and anger such sentiments cause me. This was a human being -- her parents' daughter, their little girl -- and even in her disabled condition, she still had the right to life and the right to be loved and cared for by her family. After they killed her, I vowed to do everything in my power to make sure nothing so horrible could ever happen again in America. And I thanked the statesmen and activists who did everything in their power to try and save her from starvation. I was especially thankful to the tens of thousands of RightMarch.com activists across the nation, who called, wrote, and even travelled to Florida to join us in speaking with legislators and participating in vigils and protests on behalf of Terri. Now Michael Schiavo, Terri's estranged husband who denied her any therapy for over a decade and then collaborated with those activist judges and legislators to starve her to death, has stepped into the media spotlight once again. He's started a PAC (political action committee) to exploit Terri's name and raise money to defeat the Congressmen and Senators who tried to save her life. He even has the nerve to call it "TerriPAC". He should be ashamed of himself, but instead he paints himself as a victim and a hero, who "loved his wife". (Never mind the he lived with his "fiancee" the whole time Terri was being starved, had two children by her, and spent the money that was supposed to be for Terri's rehabilitation on lawyers in order to have her killed.) Now, once again, Michael Schiavo is hitting the news shows and the talk show circuit to tell the world that Terri "wanted to die" -- in fact, he was just on Keith Olbermann's liberal "news" show on MSNBC spouting the same old rhetoric. And the liberal media eats it up -- because they believe it means more conservatives will be voted out of office. I believe we need to fight back -- NOW. Last year, countless thousands of members of RightMarch.com were there for Terri when she and her family needed them the most. Many were there beside me, in the halls and offices of the Florida legislature, trying to convince hard-hearted politicians to stop her court-ordered starvation. Many of you were there, when we went in for meetings with state senators and Governor Bush's aides, alongside others like Randall Terry, Alan Keyes, and even Jesse Jackson, trying to convince the governor to intervene and save Terri's life. And so many were there, helping us to raise money to pay for the tens of thousands of dollars in expenses that Terri's family incurred, trying to save her life. I was so very grateful for everything that RightMarch.com members did to help the Schindler family in their time of greatest need. Now, utilizing the RightMarch.com PAC, we have decided to FIGHT BACK against Michael Schiavo's blatant exploitation of Terri, and to counter everything he does -- dollar for dollar, ad for ad -- so we can support the legislators that supported Terri... and defeat the ones that contributed to her death. We've started a new PAC project, called "Terri's List," which will focus on supporting the list of legislators that Michael Schiavo is targeting for defeat. This project name was chosen because anyone that Michael Schiavo decides to put on HIS list was, obviously, a FRIEND of Terri. But we need YOUR help to ensure this project's success. Please click through to contribute to the RightMarch.com PAC's special project, "Terri's List": https://secure.responseenterprises.c...tmarchpac/?a=6 We weren't able to stop the pro-death activists from forcibly starving Terri Schiavo to death. But we CAN stop her estranged husband from exploiting her memory, and her name, in his shameful quest for vengeance against the honorable men and women who tried to stop him from killing her against her will. Allow me to be very direct with you: if we believe Terri should not have been killed by starvation, then we have a duty before God to do something now in her name. Please, help the RightMarch.com PAC to counter Michael Schiavo's shameful attempt to exploit Terri Schiavo's good name -- help support the legislators on "Terri's List" that tried so hard to save her life. Friend, though we may have never met, I'm asking you for your help. I am asking you to help the RightMarch.com PAC with the best gift you can give for this battle. Virtually every person reading this can give $5 or $10 dollars. Many can give $50 or $100. Some can give $500 or $1000 or even $2000 or more. An effort like this takes extensive resources, and we need much help. Every gift matters at this time! I thank you with all my heart. (Gifts are not tax-deductible.) Please give ASAP; the need is urgent now, and time is critical as the 2006 election season now starts to heat up: https://secure.responseenterprises.c...tmarchpac/?a=6 Please, make your best donation now. Thank you. Sincerely, William Greene, President RightMarch.com PAC P.S. Just before the New Year, Michael Schiavo's "TerriPAC" placed ads on several popular political websites and discussion groups to drum up support for his new project of exploitation. Now he's BRAGGING about their early success; here's an excerpt from one of his recent e-mails: "Already, our ads have been seen by more than three quarters of a million people and countless political and opinion leaders. And as a result, our website has recorded tens of thousands of individual 'hits' from people all over the world and people are signing-up every day... In just a few weeks, TerriPAC will be announcing our first endorsed candidates for public office..." With that, Michael Schiavo announced the TerriPAC "30 Challenge" to raise $30,000 and rank the first 3 legislators he intends to target. We need to raise MORE money than Michael Schiavo. We need to COUNTER whoever he targets and SUPPORT them, and we need to strongly OPPOSE whoever he endorses. We need to RESCUE the memory of Terri Schindler Schiavo from the clutches of this man who betrayed her. PLEASE, make your best donation to the RightMarch.com PAC right away, and forward this e-mail to any friends or family that you have who you think might be interested in saving Terri's good name -- even though we were unsuccessful in our attempts to save her life. This is an important battle in the war for the lives of our weak, vulnerable, and disabled brothers and sisters. CLICK HERE TO CONTRIBUTE NOW: https://secure.responseenterprises.c...tmarchpac/?a=6 If you prefer to contribute by check, please send to: RightMarch.com PAC Dept. Code 6 PO Box 20277 Washington DC 20041-2277 |
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Well, I prefer to wait until Terri's biological parents tell their story about what happened in Terri's room before she died.... or if, they ever writes a book about their daughter's condition, how she died and so forth... then, I will know the truth.
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I bet any donation goes to one non-profit organization to pay the paid staff, internists, office expenses, building leasing. What is left fund to pay the expensive lobbyists.
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Heh. I find it interesting Mr. Greene states that Michael was estranged, when in fact it was the parents who were estranged from Terri.
The parents were trying to keep a brain dead (yes, brain dead, as was confirmed in 100% of all medical documentation on the case) person alive who wasn't even part of their lives until after the accident. If you force your own daughter out of your life, logically that includes relinquishing any implied parental rights. |
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Teresh,
She was not brain dead, She was brain damaged, two different conditions. *sigh* I agree with this story because, that's exactly what happened to Terri, nothing more nothing less.
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That's correct! Terri's parents wouldn't know or Terri's brother and sister, because they were pushed out of the room by Michael. tsk tsk!
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It's terrible that Terri wasn't able to tell her side of the story, because of the condition she was in. I just hope that someday, the real story will come out, and Michael will get the embarrassment of his life. I pray that she is resting in peace now.
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Yep that how I see it too..... I'm not so so so surprise Michael is still greeny as usual....I already expressed my feelings regarding Michael and I will say it again he's nothing but a cheater and a cold-blood murderder who only cares about himself as usual.... Hope Michael rot in hell for the murder of his wife Terri :-/
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That's show me that Michael is nothing but a cold heart person!
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I'd need to read something from the other side of this before I could make a clear decision. Do notice this letter is coming from an openly partisan source.
I've had a very hard time getting my head wrapped around all of the issues in this case, and I'd rather be fully informed before I make a choice...hey, at least I can admit it. |
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I have to ask...
What was the point of this? We all know that people are very divided when it comes to the Schiavo case. That is evidenced even by the strong opinions expressed on this forum. I agree with the other poster. The source of that website is very biased, and I really don't see a point to posting it other than to inflame members here. Who cares if Michael Schiavo has created a website to help run certain senators out of office. The Schindler's and their supporters also have revamped their website to promote their cause as well. I don't see anyone getting upset over that and calling for people to get on a bandwagon.
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Why would I get upset that Terri's parents were just trying to save their daughter, They don't believe in committing murder, they believe that God is the only one who decide our fate and I'm with them all the way as I always had been. Michael is nothing but a creep, greedy, cheating, and murder husband. That's all I think of for that low bastard.
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Cheri,
I'd like to see your reasoning on this question. I'm not trying to say if you're right or wrong, but I want to understand more of your logic... The question is: How do you separate God determining one's fate from humans determining one's fate? I'm asking because you could also argue that at the point when you take someone off of life support or a feeding tube that you are putting the entire matter in God's hands--that He will wake that person if it is His will, or take them back to Him. At a certain point, does human intervention (the feeding tube or life support) become something that is not God's will? And how do we know where that point is, if that is an issue to be concerned with? Again, I don't want this to look like an angry post, because it isn't. It's just that since you bring up the issue of God's will vs. man's will, I think this needs to be discussed for a fuller understanding. |
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This is the purpose of Michael Schiavo's endeavor! He wants to get those politicians who intruded upon this case out of office, and I applaud him for that!
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Terri's condition cause by herself, I believe she made that choice to lead the wrong path by hurting herself through dieting the wrong way. I'm sure she did not do this on purpose. I don't believe it's God's will how she end up the way she did. It's just a lesson that people should be aware of what happened to Terri can happen to you, if you dieting the wrong way.
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Terri's parents only made a plea to save their daughter, I meant I wouldn't want my son's wife order dehydration and starvation for my son. I would do anything in my power to save my son just like Terri's parents had done for her daughter. I see nothing wrong with that at all. I do agree that each person can decide for themselves, but Terri had no living will she did not decide for herself, Michael, and the state of Florida decide her fate.
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this is possibly another spam.
it always happens to everyone who were brain damaged nor brain dead, etc and I dont see why this case with white people always have to be known to public though it does indeed happen to blacks and asians and everybody else all the time and she was proably well known in public just because she was another beauiful rich white woman but dont get me wrong I am sorry for her death, but we can't just focus on one person all the time and treat her like a queen because it happens to many others so try to show some respect and give attention to other ppl who has as far serious problems as her indeed. If it happened in the past then it happened in the past. but this time I hope republicans and other policits related groups better stay the hell outta this situation because its none of their business but the families of their own instead. just my two cents.
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But what I find myself wondering, with the technological advances we have made...are there times when we use technology to keep a body alive when the soul has already gone on to Heaven, or perhaps times when we're preventing a soul from moving on that SHOULD be free to move on if not for our intervention? I wonder if sometimes we use our technology to play God and determine if people should live or die. Have we gone too far? Again, I am not saying you're totally wrong or anything...but if you bring the consideration of God's will into the equation, this is another possibility that has to be considered. |
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The only reason why she has the feeding tubes inside her cause she is unable to feed herself, yet she is not on any life support machine that keeping her alive, I don't see a difference in a life support machine and a feeding tubes, afterall people have to eat and drink in order to live, no one can live without food and water, so to me it wasn't God's will that allow her to die, it wasw Michael who took the matter in his own hands by starving his wife for days.....
God kept Terri breathing for a reason, cause she wasn't ready to die, also God provide doctors for things to help patients such as medicine, feeding tubes, etc etc.. When you take the matter in your own hands by killing someone who is still breathing without the use of any life support is it the murder in the eye of God to me...... If God wanted her to die, she wouldn't be able to breathe on her own.... Btw, this is my last post, I'm going to bother posting anymore in this thread, I'm not up to agrue with anyone, I see it differently and I hope all of you respect that......
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Angel, I respect your decision to back out. I just want to say one thing...I have never disrespected those who feel differently. I ask my questions because I want to understand the reasoning behind other opinions. I think that's the only fair way to make a decision on a big issue like this--by fully understanding why both sides say what they do.
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Thank you Rose Immortal, I have no problem with you and I do think you're a very nice person from reading most of your posts here in AD and I do understand where you're coming from on this, there may be some things I've said toward Michael that may be not too nice, but this is the most sensitive issue I've pour my heart into, and sometimes when I hear a case like this, I must admit I do get emotionally upset how it turned out at the end....
I've been up and down the hill on this case, and I have said pretty much all I wanted to say, and I do not wish to argue with anyone really, I can see and understand where the others are coming from, and I'm not trying to force others to see it the way I do.....It's okay to disagree too.... But it's time for this to put behind us, Terri's no longer here, and I wish it never came to that, but it happened and it's over with, there nothing we can do to bring her back.... Please forgive me if I said something that may offend anyone in this thread...
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Technology like machines that people hooked up on to help them breathe is more like they are really gone, instead of a person that breathe on his/her own is not really gone. Do you think that's fair that someone just decide that a breathing person should die? Only thing that is keeping her alive was the feeding tubes. Why can't they just let her die on natural cause? Maybe God had a plan for her, remember how people say if you have faith in believing anything can happen a miracle, maybe a miracle was waiting for her on God's terms.
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