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Old 07-22-2005, 08:17 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Old 07-22-2005, 08:18 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Old 07-22-2005, 08:34 PM   #3 (permalink)
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more bombings?
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Old 07-22-2005, 09:16 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Old 07-22-2005, 09:19 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Old 07-22-2005, 09:34 PM   #6 (permalink)
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*sigh* not another one.... Geez..Why can't they quit it ?
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Old 07-23-2005, 10:02 AM   #7 (permalink)
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SHARM EL-SHEIK, Egypt - Three car bombs exploded in quick succession in the Red Sea resort of Sharm el-Sheik early Saturday, ripping through a hotel and a coffeeshop packed with European and Egyptian tourists. The government said at least 62 people died in the deadliest attack in Egypt in nearly a decade.

The reception hall of the luxury Ghazala Gardens hotel collapsed into a pancaked pile of concrete, sending terrified guests fleeing for safety, according to an Associated Press reporter at the scene. Rescue workers hours later said they feared more victims may be buried in the rubble.

At least 62 people were killed, Health Minister Mohammed Awad Tag Eddin said. The interior minister earlier said 119 people were wounded and that at least eight foreigners were among the dead.

Interior Minister Habib al-Adli pinned the attack on Islamic militants. "This is an ugly act of terrorism," al-Adli said in a statement carried on the government news agency. "It has nothing to do with Islam, they are only acting under the slogan of Islam."
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Old 07-23-2005, 04:39 PM   #8 (permalink)
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*sigh* not another one.... Geez..Why can't they quit it ?
Well several reasons,,,Israel,, and Bush nor blair wouldnt use the nukes to shut em up.
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Old 07-23-2005, 04:46 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Well, Terrorist have their stupid religious belief that western must be destroyed.

Hey RS, nuke them won't solve problem. It will actually make it worse. We need not to use nuke at all!

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Old 07-23-2005, 05:13 PM   #10 (permalink)
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We used the A BOMB on Japan and it worked.
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Old 07-23-2005, 05:25 PM   #11 (permalink)
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We used the A BOMB on Japan and it worked.
Ravensteve, time has changed, the world has changed since the bombing of Japan, thus, more countries today have an array of nukes to deploy, only chaos would reign down on planet Earth if the choice was ordered to 'nuke' these countries...this would not be a good idea to pursue, let alone setting a tempo for other countries to follow suit by sending off their own arensal of nukes. Sooo, forget about it--not in the best interest for the world we live on!
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Old 07-23-2005, 05:58 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Roadrunner it wouldnt happen that way.If we used nukes on any arab nation all the world gonna do is make boycotts and stop trade deals with us. Russia,, china or any other country has nukes will not get involved what we do. All theyre gonna do is economic boycotts against us. I say So what? it would help jobs in the US and we wont by buying forgien products again.Like what the US is doing against cuba having an embargo against cuban cigars which hurts castros enconomy.
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Old 07-23-2005, 06:26 PM   #13 (permalink)
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We used the A BOMB on Japan and it worked.
OMG...... this is what I would expect to hear from you. Have you ever been there and seen the museums and monuments portraying the devastation??

Have you seen the building nicknamed "The A Bomb Dome"?? This building was almost directly under where the bomb went off, and to this day they have left it as it appeared after the blast.

I dont understand how you can be so ignorant and close-minded about something, saying basically "it worked".....
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Old 07-23-2005, 08:10 PM   #14 (permalink)
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...I dont understand how you can be so ignorant and close-minded about something, saying basically "it worked"....
I think RS meant that dropping the bombs on Japan successfully quickly ended the war with Japan without further massive casualties to the allied troops. That was the goal of President Truman, so in that sense "it worked" (succeeded).
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I think RS meant that dropping the bombs on Japan successfully quickly ended the war with Japan without further massive casualties to the allied troops. That was the goal of President Truman, so in that sense "it worked" (succeeded).
I belive this will end al queda and terrorism. Cause arabs will think twice before joining an terrorist organizion cause theyre be thinking about their families like their brothers and sisters to worry about. Cause they will turn down terrorist recruts cause they dont want their parents or their brothers and sisters dead.
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Old 07-23-2005, 09:57 PM   #16 (permalink)
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I belive this will end al queda and terrorism. Cause arabs will think twice before joining an terrorist organizion cause theyre be thinking about their families like their brothers and sisters to worry about. Cause they will turn down terrorist recruts cause they dont want their parents or their brothers and sisters dead.
Terrorism is a different kind of battle. It doesn't have a limited geographical location. Nuking a particular country or region won't eliminate the enemy. The enemy is already infiltrated throughout the world. They don't care about their families, so that threat won't work on them.
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Wanna bet? Once Bin laden is killed its over. Just like the assassination of caesar bought down the roman empire.
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Oh well... there will be more bombings in the near future, here or there. Iraq war doesn't solve the problems and it will lead more violence & revenge. Due to the Iraq war, we will be fighting terrorists for a very long time.

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Wanna bet? Once Bin laden is killed its over. Just like the assassination of caesar bought down the roman empire.
Yeah but President Bush is not interesting to catch Osama bin Laden because bin Laden's brother-in-law worked with Bush for the oil business in Texas.
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Old 07-23-2005, 11:40 PM   #19 (permalink)
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... President Bush is not interesting to catch Osama bin Laden because bin Laden's brother-in-law worked with Bush for the oil business in Texas.
What was his name and position? What years did he work with Bush? What does that have to do with catching Osama????
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What was his name and position? What years did he work with Bush? What does that have to do with catching Osama????
His name is Sheikh Khalid bin Mahfouz and he is Bush Financier. Mahfouz invested a lot of money into Bush's first oil company Arbusto Energy in 1980s. Bush not interest in catching Osama because of his business with the royal Saudi family. Bush doesn't want to admit that Saudi Arabia fund their money with terrorism and 80% of hijackers on 9/11 are from Saudi Arabia. Bush also trying to connect the Iraq or Saddam to 9/11. We know there is no link and we know there's no nuclear weapons in Iraq.
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Old 07-24-2005, 12:55 AM   #21 (permalink)
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Thank you for the info.

Why does bin Mahfouz continue to deny that his sister is married to bin Laden?
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In US Senate testimony in 1998, CIA Director James Woolsey stated that bin Mahfouz's sister is a wife of Osama bin Laden, making the two brothers-in-law. Bin Mahfouz has consistently denied this. Many publications, including the Wall Street Journal, the LA Times, Fortune Magazine, the Washington Post, and USA Today, reported that the two were brothers-in-law. Each publication has since issued a retraction, sometimes after lengthy litigation.

In the libel trial against Wall Street Journal, Woolsey testified that bin Mahfouz had been misidentified. Woosley later stated "I don't know what to say other than there was some confusion, but I never meant to refer to Bin Mahfouz's sister."

This error has also been acknowledged by leading publications, such as:

Penguin Books:
11.03.2004: Re 'American Dynasty' by Kevin Phillips: " We note that Sheikh Khalid Bin Mahfouz is not Osama bin Laden's brother-in-law and we will ensure that the necessary change to the text is made in the next reprint of the book. We regret the mistake".

The Wall Street Journal:
29.05.2002: "A May 1 (2002) Leisure & Arts story, "The Gallery: An Artist With a Taste for Scandal. . ." by Dean Yuliano, relied on Senate testimony in stating that a sister of Khalid bin Mahfouz, a Saudi banker and former BCCI director, is married to Osama
bin Laden. None of Khalid bin Mahfouz's sisters is, or ever has been, married to Osama bin Laden."

The Washington Post:
03.03.2002: "A Feb 17 article about the use of gold in al Qaeda and Taliban financing reported incorrectly that a Saudi banker, Khalid Bin Mahfouz, is a brother-in-law of Osama bin Ladin."

The Sunday Independent (Eire):
08.05.2003:
"In our edition of May 18, 2003, we published an article entitled 'Moore firing both barrels at Bush'.
The article referred to Khalid Bin Mahfouz and stated that he is a brother-in-law of Osama Bin Laden. We wish to acknowledge that this was an error of fact and that Khalid Bin Mahfouz is not Osama Bin Laden's brother-in-law. Furthermore, Bin Mahfouz has absolutely no such familial relationship to Osama Bin Laden."

Sunday Express (UK):
06.07.2003:
"Neither (Sheikh Abdulrahman Bin Khalid Bin Mahfouz or Sheikh Sultan Bin Khalid Bin Mahfouz) is related in any way to Osama Bin Laden".

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His name is Sheikh Khalid bin Mahfouz and he is Bush Financier.
Do you mean that he still gives money to Bush?


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If Bush is not interested in catching Osama, why is he is still sending military teams to search for him?
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Old 07-24-2005, 02:23 AM   #22 (permalink)
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Yea, that is because NO other countries have this kind of bomb. Now plenty of countries have atomic bomb, just think about what reaction from these countries if we start to drop the bomb?

Too many copycats all over the world right now. Worth the risk? NAH!

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Old 07-24-2005, 02:37 AM   #23 (permalink)
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I personally DON'T believe terrorist was started because of Bush! The terrorist EXISTED before Bush became president. Whats more, there have been long term crisis in middle east long long long before Bush was even born! The real problem is that in the middle east is religious conflicts and their belief is that the western countries is axis of evil and shall be destroyed. They said so in their own bible!!! The problem esclated when Jewish was granted a land assisted by the United States long time ago known as Israel. This got other middle east countries pissed off about. They (middle east) wanted Israel to be wiped out. PERIOD! All because of bible teaching in extreme muslim community.
Bombing isn't new and it has happened plenty of times even before Bush's dad was president!
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Old 07-24-2005, 04:29 AM   #24 (permalink)
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Yes, I heard on news tv that was so terrible happening in Egypt was bombing somewhere and killing Egyptian people that happened of the terriosts.
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I personally DON'T believe terrorist was started because of Bush! The terrorist EXISTED before Bush became president. Whats more, there have been long term crisis in middle east long long long before Bush was even born! The real problem is that in the middle east is religious conflicts and their belief is that the western countries is axis of evil and shall be destroyed. They said so in their own bible!!! The problem esclated when Jewish was granted a land assisted by the United States long time ago known as Israel. This got other middle east countries pissed off about. They (middle east) wanted Israel to be wiped out. PERIOD! All because of bible teaching in extreme muslim community.
Bombing isn't new and it has happened plenty of times even before Bush's dad was president!
FYI: Their "bible" is called Koran.
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I personally DON'T believe terrorist was started because of Bush! The terrorist EXISTED before Bush became president.
Very true.
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Thank you for the info.
Do you mean that he still gives money to Bush?
No, was. It was in 1980s. Bush stopped doing business with him before he ran for President of the United States.

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If Bush is not interested in catching Osama, why is he is still sending military teams to search for him?
He sent a small group of military to search for him and it's not enough. Bush transfor a lot of soliders from Afgan to Iraq. They let him escape into other country. If Bush could've postpone his plan for Iraq War for few months then we could've probably capture Osama bin Laden and we don't have to worry about those terrorists' attacks or beheadings in Iraq.
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Getting rid of Osama will do nothing to end terrorism in this world. The only benefit is that it will give us a moral boost capturing the guy behind 9/11 and other attacks.
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That is very LIKELY true!

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Getting rid of Osama will do nothing to end terrorism in this world. The only benefit is that it will give us a moral boost capturing the guy behind 9/11 and other attacks.
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