Guns? For Teachers?

**Cheri** · 03-26-2005, 11:28 PM

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PHOENIX - All options should be considered to prevent rampages like the Minnesota school shooting that took 10 lives — including making guns available to teachers, a top National Rifle Association leader said Friday.

“I’m not saying that that means every teacher should have a gun or not, but what I am saying is we need to look at all the options at what will truly protect the students,” the NRA’s first vice president, Sandra S. Froman, told The Associated Press.

Gun-control restrictions would not have prevented Jeff Weise, 16, from killing nine people and himself Monday at Red Lake High School near Bemidji, Minn., said Froman, an attorney expected next month to be elected president of the NRA, which claims 4 million members.

The presence of an unarmed guard at the school failed to stop the siege, she noted.

“No gun law, no policy that you could implement now or that was already implemented, I think, could possibly prevent someone so intent on destruction,” she said. “I think everything’s on the table as far as looking at what we need to do to make our schools safe for our students.”

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7297575/

I don't think it's a good idea for Teachers have a gun in the school building, Alot of reasons why I don't agree, because It isn't safe, and it will make the problems even worst. I think the teachers should keep their eyes open around all students behavior, be aware of what they are doing, Same goes for the Parent too.

tekkmortal · 03-27-2005, 12:03 AM

I know few of the teachers are crazy enough to shoot an innocent kid.

**Banjo** · 03-27-2005, 12:05 AM

Guns in classrooms?

Well, it'll make the students think twice before messing with the teacher. Though, I would say it's a terrible idea. I meant, what if the teacher get angry enough to shoot one of the students out of stupidity?

ravensteve1961 · 03-27-2005, 12:07 AM

No Guns for teachers,,Doesnt anyone learn what happened in a courtroom 3 weeks ago? What makes you think theres not at least 3 students are bad preditors? They can grab the gun from a teacher kill her and kill anyone in that classroom and then it will be on the news and then lawsuits would be filed.I say everyone goes though a seach like bag check and go though a medal detector before you enter the school.

tekkmortal · 03-27-2005, 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by ravensteve1961

No Guns for teachers,,Doesnt anyone learn what happened in a courtroom 3 weeks ago? What makes you think theres not at least 3 students are bad preditors? They can grab the gun from a teacher kill her and kill anyone in that classroom and then it will be on the news and then lawsuits would be filed.I say everyone goes though a seach like bag check and go though a medal detector before you enter the school.

The school cops will probably scare you away, ravensteve.

**ITPjohn** · 03-27-2005, 12:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Cheri

I don't think it's a good idea for Teachers have a gun in the school building, Alot of reasons why I don't agree, because It isn't safe, and it will make the problems even worst. I think the teachers should keep their eyes open around all students behavior, be aware of what they are doing, Same goes for the Parent too.

I agree with Cheri, but this latest shooting only proves that school security needs to be improved. I never thought that I'd see the day where schools would need to have armed guards or police on campus. During my HS days, I heard rumors about sex or 'smoking' on campus. That was it.

**Angel** · 03-27-2005, 01:20 AM

Yeah, I don't agree that teachers should have guns at all in school, anything can happen really....

and keeping an eye on the signs of trouble children, maybe try to help those trouble children before they go too far...Parents should do the same likewise....It takes a village to raise a child

**TweetyBird** · 03-27-2005, 01:29 AM

yea i agree with Cheri!!! i dont think that good idea for teacher bring guns to school .. what for????!!!! nah!! not worth to bring!

Taylor · 03-27-2005, 03:24 AM

But what happens when a student brings a gun into school...Who is to stop them? You have one armed person in a building with hundreds of unarmed people with nowhere to run....Finding victims isn't that difficult of a task. If a principle or guards had weapons, there would actually be a chance to stop these shootings before the death toll rises. If a teacher had been armed at Columbine, do you think there would have been a chance to stop the carnage earlier in their rampage?

ravensteve1961 · 03-27-2005, 03:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Taylor

But what happens when a student brings a gun into school...Who is to stop them? You have one armed person in a building with hundreds of unarmed people with nowhere to run....Finding victims isn't that difficult of a task. If a principle or guards had weapons, there would actually be a chance to stop these shootings before the death toll rises. If a teacher had been armed at Columbine, do you think there would have been a chance to stop the carnage earlier in their rampage?

Taylor Like I suggested,, Bags Searched and scaned though an x ray machine. Then The student goes though a medal detector.Just like they do at airports That goes for everyone teachers and vistors too.

ravensteve1961 · 03-27-2005, 04:05 AM

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Originally Posted by tekkmortal

The school cops will probably scare you away, ravensteve.

This School Cop dont scare me!

**Maria** · 03-27-2005, 05:39 AM

Send all the RoboCops to each school.

And, of course I don't agree that all teachers should have guns at schools.

**Cheri** · 03-27-2005, 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Taylor

But what happens when a student brings a gun into school...Who is to stop them? You have one armed person in a building with hundreds of unarmed people with nowhere to run....Finding victims isn't that difficult of a task. If a principle or guards had weapons, there would actually be a chance to stop these shootings before the death toll rises. If a teacher had been armed at Columbine, do you think there would have been a chance to stop the carnage earlier in their rampage?

I don't think Columbine schools would get any better if the Teachers has guns, It showing students that you can allow to own a gun if you think your life is at stake. More people and students would buy a gun for themselves, pretty soon the whole world is gotta buy guns. People with guns is not gotta make anything better it's going to get worse. Chances of stopping school shooting, Is opening your eyes and look for behaviors you see that doesn't fit, get those behaviors help before it's too late, and that can saves lives than taking lives.

**Cheri** · 03-27-2005, 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by ravensteve1961

Taylor Like I suggested,, Bags Searched and scaned though an x ray machine. Then The student goes though a medal detector.Just like they do at airports That goes for everyone teachers and vistors too.

Don't pass out, but for the first time I am agreeing with your suggested.

**Maria** · 03-27-2005, 08:42 AM

One of these days, I wouldn't be surprised if, the fingerprints/biometric I.D. will require for all students/teachers/supervisors/superintendentsto in all schools.

If, that happens, then, it is called "control". I hope it don't create a major civil war in the near future.

Steel X · 03-27-2005, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberRed

Send all the RoboCops to each school.

And, of course I don't agree that all teachers should have guns at schools.

I rather vote for the terminators instead.

robocops are slower than terminators, no offense.

P.S. I dont believe that teachers should carry weapons...NONE of the school staff members should own any weapons in the school systems. only police officers are better.

**Reba** · 03-27-2005, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by ITPjohn

... I never thought that I'd see the day where schools would need to have armed guards or police on campus. ..

True. When I went to high school, we didn't even have unarmed guards or "public safety officers"--nothing. Also, we had a gun shooting club for students at the school. We never had a shooting or stabbing at the school. There might have been fist fights but I never heard about one, nor did I see one.

**Reba** · 03-27-2005, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by ravensteve1961

... Bags Searched and scaned though an x ray machine. Then The student goes though a medal detector. ...

But that didn't stop the most recent school shooter. He just blasted his way into the school.

ravensteve1961 · 03-27-2005, 02:36 PM

Then its the guards fault for not firing their guns. Look what happend in LA airport 2 years ago on 4th of july holiday. An arab terrorist started shooting at EL Airlines ticket counter EL airlines is israel airlines in case you dont know. US military return fire and killed the arab. See sometimes whats comming at you,And you gotta be ready and kill no matter what!

**Maria** · 03-27-2005, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Steel

I rather vote for the terminators instead.

robocops are slower than terminators, no offense.

P.S. I dont believe that teachers should carry weapons...NONE of the school staff members should own any weapons in the school systems. only police officers are better.

Very funny ! Whatever ! *chuckles*

03-27-2005, 04:00 PM

What about Taser Guns instead of handguns for teachers to use?

SpiceHD · 03-27-2005, 04:18 PM

yea.. or some type of shock device where they can shoot and shock the student before.. making them not shoot or whatever... i totally disagree with teachers with guns cuz that only provodke things... i agree with ravensteve here about metal thing and xray and everything ...

SpiceHD · 03-27-2005, 04:19 PM

why dont people just stop making small guns and sell only hunting guns and guns that is for cops only... it would certainly prevent any more plms with killing at school.

ravensteve1961 · 03-27-2005, 06:06 PM

NO Stun Guns nether kids can get a heart attack by using a stun gun. Right now theres a family suing the sheriff dept and the county because a deputy used a stun gun to break up a fight in jail.

03-27-2005, 07:03 PM

Fine. I'll just not share my opinions or questions because some of you guys just don't make it fun and healthy anymore.

It's official, I refuse to be discussing religions, politics, and hot topics on AllDeaf.

Your loss.

**Cheri** · 03-27-2005, 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by SpiceHD

why dont people just stop making small guns and sell only hunting guns and guns that is for cops only... it would certainly prevent any more plms with killing at school.

Kids would find ways to get guns from the street, from their bad crowd friends, or steal one. That wouldn't help much :/

Steel X · 03-27-2005, 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by ravensteve1961

NO Stun Guns nether kids can get a heart attack by using a stun gun. Right now theres a family suing the sheriff dept and the county because a deputy used a stun gun to break up a fight in jail.

aaaaaaaannnnd did somebody got killed by the stun gun?

ravensteve1961 · 03-27-2005, 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Steel

aaaaaaaannnnd did somebody got killed by the stun gun?

Yes the inmate got a heart attack as the result of it. The family is seeking 5 million dollars from the county and sherrif dept

**ITPjohn** · 03-28-2005, 12:58 AM

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Originally Posted by ravensteve1961

Yes the inmate got a heart attack as the result of it (stun gun). The family is seeking 5 million dollars from the county and sherrif dept

Give the school guards TASER/stun guns. Even if crazy kid get his hands on it, he probably won't kill 10 people before getting stopped.

About the inmate - I doubt that family will actually get $5 million. Jails are TOUGH places to work with plenty of rules about using ANY weapons. I'm sure there's a good reason he got tasered. Why was he in jail? Didn't care about following laws/rules??

**Liebling:-)))** · 03-28-2005, 02:40 AM

Teacher with guns in classroom?

I am against it.

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03-27-2005, 12:03 AM	#2 (permalink)
tekkmortal Registered User Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 1,537	I know few of the teachers are crazy enough to shoot an innocent kid.

03-27-2005, 12:05 AM	#3 (permalink)
Banjo Expelled Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 11,650	Guns in classrooms? Well, it'll make the students think twice before messing with the teacher. Though, I would say it's a terrible idea. I meant, what if the teacher get angry enough to shoot one of the students out of stupidity?

03-27-2005, 12:07 AM	#4 (permalink)
ravensteve1961 Banned Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Here Posts: 3,940	No Guns for teachers,,Doesnt anyone learn what happened in a courtroom 3 weeks ago? What makes you think theres not at least 3 students are bad preditors? They can grab the gun from a teacher kill her and kill anyone in that classroom and then it will be on the news and then lawsuits would be filed.I say everyone goes though a seach like bag check and go though a medal detector before you enter the school.

03-27-2005, 03:24 AM	#9 (permalink)
Taylor Registered User Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 1,631	But what happens when a student brings a gun into school...Who is to stop them? You have one armed person in a building with hundreds of unarmed people with nowhere to run....Finding victims isn't that difficult of a task. If a principle or guards had weapons, there would actually be a chance to stop these shootings before the death toll rises. If a teacher had been armed at Columbine, do you think there would have been a chance to stop the carnage earlier in their rampage?

03-27-2005, 08:42 AM	#15 (permalink)
Maria Premium Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: WISCONSIN Posts: 10,309	One of these days, I wouldn't be surprised if, the fingerprints/biometric I.D. will require for all students/teachers/supervisors/superintendentsto in all schools. If, that happens, then, it is called "control". I hope it don't create a major civil war in the near future.

03-27-2005, 02:36 PM	#19 (permalink)
ravensteve1961 Banned Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Here Posts: 3,940	Then its the guards fault for not firing their guns. Look what happend in LA airport 2 years ago on 4th of july holiday. An arab terrorist started shooting at EL Airlines ticket counter EL airlines is israel airlines in case you dont know. US military return fire and killed the arab. See sometimes whats comming at you,And you gotta be ready and kill no matter what!

03-27-2005, 04:00 PM	#21 (permalink)
Deaf258 Guest Posts: n/a	What about Taser Guns instead of handguns for teachers to use?

03-27-2005, 04:18 PM	#22 (permalink)
SpiceHD Registered User Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: missouri Posts: 1,565	yea.. or some type of shock device where they can shoot and shock the student before.. making them not shoot or whatever... i totally disagree with teachers with guns cuz that only provodke things... i agree with ravensteve here about metal thing and xray and everything ...

03-27-2005, 04:19 PM	#23 (permalink)
SpiceHD Registered User Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: missouri Posts: 1,565	why dont people just stop making small guns and sell only hunting guns and guns that is for cops only... it would certainly prevent any more plms with killing at school.

03-27-2005, 06:06 PM	#24 (permalink)
ravensteve1961 Banned Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Here Posts: 3,940	NO Stun Guns nether kids can get a heart attack by using a stun gun. Right now theres a family suing the sheriff dept and the county because a deputy used a stun gun to break up a fight in jail.

03-27-2005, 07:03 PM	#25 (permalink)
Deaf258 Guest Posts: n/a	Fine. I'll just not share my opinions or questions because some of you guys just don't make it fun and healthy anymore. It's official, I refuse to be discussing religions, politics, and hot topics on AllDeaf. Your loss.