Video Evidence No Plane Hit the Pentagon

**Beowulf** · 02-26-2005, 12:19 AM

http://www.total911.info/2005/02/vid...plane-hit.html

Watch this video of reporter Jamie McIntyre with the background of a burning Pentagon behind him. You will see no fallen walls, no gaping hole or debris or anything. That is because the wall collapsed 45 minutes after the alleged "hit."
He is saying that he searched the area and saw no evidence of a plane crash.
Interesting.

**Interpretrator** · 02-26-2005, 02:04 AM

And then read this:

http://www.snopes.com/rumors/pentagon.htm

Be wary of conspiracy theories.

If you want to read an article about this by a professional pilot who writes a regular column for Salon, the link is below. You will have to look at an ad first if you don't subscribe.

http://www.salon.com/tech/col/smith/...19/index2.html

**Reba** · 02-26-2005, 09:40 AM

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http://alldeaf.com/showpost.php?p=218793&postcount=26

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**Beowulf** · 02-26-2005, 09:48 AM

Yup, the truth is worth repeating.

**Reba** · 02-26-2005, 09:54 AM

Quote:

Check out this shockwave video file of a clip from CNN coverage on the morning of 9/11. CNN reporter Jamie McIntyre says he inspected the Pentagon site and it is obvious no plane crashed there.

I have bolded the phrase "it is obvious no plane crashed there." If you read the following transcript from McIntyre's report, you will see that he did not say that. He said "there's no evidence of a plane having crashed". That means, to his eye, he couldn't see the evidence.

Actually, that is a common remark from people who have witnessed plane crashes. Crash sites in the ground, on mountain sides, etc., are frequently overlooked by searchers because they visually "disappear" when they disintegrate.

Quote:

JAMIE MCINTYRE: From my close-up inspection, there's no evidence of a plane having crashed anywhere near the Pentagon.

The only site, is the actual side of the building that's crashed in. And as I said, the only pieces left that you can see are small enough that you pick up in your hand. There are no large tail sections, wing sections, fuselage, nothing like that anywhere around which would indicate that the entire plane crashed into the side of the Pentagon and then caused the side to collapse.

Even though if you look at the pictures of the Pentagon you see that the floors have all collapsed, that didn't happenm immediately. It wasn't until almost about 45 minutes later that the structure was weakened enough that all of the floors collapsed.

I don't see anything to get excited about in this "new" revelation.

Tousi · 02-26-2005, 10:10 AM

There are hundreds of theories proffered by conspiracy theorists and they have all been debunked.

Codger · 02-26-2005, 10:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tousi

There are hundreds of theories proffered by conspiracy theorists and they have all been debunked.

Nope, I've seen black helocopters myself!

**Beowulf** · 02-26-2005, 10:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tousi

There are hundreds of theories proffered by conspiracy theorists and they have all been debunked.

Getting back on topic, you SEE the Pentagon wall is still standing in the video.
Explain that.
Many of those without rebuttals are like trained poodles and yip the buzzwords, "conspiracy theories."
How can you debunk what you see with your own eyes?
You sound awfully brainwashed to me.

Tousi · 02-26-2005, 10:37 AM

Beo, that scenario you just asked me about has been debunked...honestly...but I don't have the information with me right now as it is external of the Internet, a medium in which I am "all thumbs" ! I shall try to get the material together and present it if I can find it.....

**Beowulf** · 02-26-2005, 10:41 AM

Good luck.
If you are referring to Snopes, THAT has been thoroughly debunked, the pics were photoshopped.

Tousi · 02-26-2005, 11:03 AM

No, not Snopes; I said "external of the Internet". I think it was a long article in the most recent issue of Popular Mechanics.

**Beowulf** · 02-26-2005, 11:26 AM

http://letsroll911.org/ipw-web/bulle...pic.php?t=5505

Gosh, Tousi, don't you surf? That alleged "article" has been thoroughly dissected and debunked. The above link is just one among many.
Let's face it, the majority of people do not believe the official version of events on 911.
The 911 Truth Movement is starting to get out of its government-induced stupor and will not be stopped.
The problem is that people DESPERATELY want to believe that we still live in an innocent age, they WANT to believe in their government. But, when you see the evidence with your own eyes and still hold yourself in complete denial, there is something seriously wrong with you. Not you personally, Tousi, do not misunderstand. I really HATE to make posts like the ones I do, but if I don't, then who will?

Tousi · 02-26-2005, 11:46 AM

I understand, Beo, always have but the predicament for me and I guess even for yourself and a lotta other people is on which side to land on issues like this. Both views are compelling.......can you tell me in one long sentence (and nevermind Ernest Hemingway, the master of the short sentence, lol) what you think really happened and how it is you are comfortable staying there? I DO understand that it is healthy to be a watchdog to an extent but...

**Reba** · 02-26-2005, 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beowulf

...Let's face it, the majority of people do not believe the official version of events on 911.

How do you know "the majority of people do not believe"? I know very few people who believe your theory.

Quote:

...But, when you see the evidence with your own eyes and still hold yourself in complete denial, there is something seriously wrong with you.

So far, I have seen no "evidence".

Quote:

I really HATE to make posts like the ones I do, but if I don't, then who will?

What exactly do you hope to accomplish with these posts?

**Interpretrator** · 02-26-2005, 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reba

How do you know "the majority of people do not believe"? I know very few people who believe your theory.

So far, I have seen no "evidence".

What exactly do you hope to accomplish with these posts?

**Beowulf** · 02-26-2005, 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reba

How do you know "the majority of people do not believe"? I know very few people who believe your theory.
Awwwww, there there, just join the YWCA or something. Find me one single poll that shows a minority, just one.

So far, I have seen no "evidence".
Hmmm, have you even bothered to look at the video? It shows an intact Pentagon wall after a huge 757 allegedly crashed into it. That is not evidence?

What exactly do you hope to accomplish with these posts?

What exactly do you hope to accomplish by denying the truth?

I give myself

for this, cackle cackle.

**Reba** · 02-26-2005, 03:37 PM

Quote:

Awwwww, there there, just join the YWCA or something. Find me one single poll that shows a minority, just one.

In other words, you can't prove your statement about the majority of conspiracy believers.

Quote:

Hmmm, have you even bothered to look at the video? It shows an intact Pentagon wall after a huge 757 allegedly crashed into it. That is not evidence?

Yes, I have looked at all the links that you provided (especially since your own links provide me with rebuttals).
The wall is not "intact" in the sense that there is no breach. It is damaged but still standing; that doesn't disprove the accepted theory of what happened. So no, that is not evidence.

Quote:

What exactly do you hope to accomplish by denying the truth?

Hmmmm, answering my question with another question.
I guess I should ask you the same question. What exactly do you hope to accomplish by denying the truth?

If you don't have a good answer, then my suspicion is confirmed that you just enjoy stirring the pot.

cady75 · 02-26-2005, 04:53 PM

Just because you believe that a plane did hit Pentagon during 9/11, does not mean that you are naive and you think your government is all good. I believe the plane hit the Pentagon, but I don't think the gov't is all good, either.

Now, a GOOD question to discuss would be-

Did the government have beforehand knowledge of the 9/11 attacks? And how did they react to this knowledged? (Try Googling, Presidental Memo, August 14th, 2001) (I hope I got the date right).

You'd be surprised!

**Beowulf** · 02-26-2005, 04:56 PM

[QUOTE=Reba]In other words, you can't prove your statement about the majority of conspiracy believers.

Yes, I have looked at all the links that you provided (especially since your own links provide me with rebuttals).
The wall is not "intact" in the sense that there is no breach. It is damaged but still standing; that doesn't disprove the accepted theory of what happened. So no, that is not evidence.

"What happened here? The Pentagon wall is still standing and there is no evidence of a plane crash."
"That is because of theories."
"Huh?"
"You see, what is accepted or not accepted goes according to those who have the the authority to tell you what you have seen, let's leave it at that."
"Why are you doing the Nazi salute?"
"What Nazi salute? I was merely trying to be helpful."
"I see."
"And you know what> There is a guy here who can tell you what you need to know. My suggestion to you is to not get on his bad side, know what I am saying?"
"I think so, but gee whiz, there is no evidence there was a huge 757 crashing here as reported."
"Ach. Too bad."

cady75 · 02-26-2005, 04:58 PM

This is what the website says. It was August 6th, not 14th.

15) August 6 2001. Memo. President George Bush receives an intelligence briefing, titled “Bin Laden determined to strike in the U.S.” that warned that "bin Laden may attempt to " hijack airplanes."
(Eggen and Woodward 5-18-2002; CBS News 5-16-2002; Boncombe 5-19-2002).
(the information in quotes are from news shows that ran features on this memo).

Here is the webpage it is from. This is not the ONLY webpage. This is a well known FACT.

http://www.unansweredquestions.org/background_56.php

Steel X · 02-26-2005, 07:32 PM

hmmm that's pretty interesting...

though they did say how many people died on the twin towers and the planes who crashed the twin towers in New York...

but I don't think I've even heard the number of deaths from the plane to the pentagon...

so I guess what you are saying there is called a "set up"?

02-26-2005, 12:19 AM	#1 (permalink)
Beowulf Premium Member Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 10,515	Video Evidence No Plane Hit the Pentagon http://www.total911.info/2005/02/vid...plane-hit.html Watch this video of reporter Jamie McIntyre with the background of a burning Pentagon behind him. You will see no fallen walls, no gaping hole or debris or anything. That is because the wall collapsed 45 minutes after the alleged "hit." He is saying that he searched the area and saw no evidence of a plane crash. Interesting. __________________ .

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02-26-2005, 09:48 AM	#4 (permalink)
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02-26-2005, 10:41 AM	#10 (permalink)
Beowulf Premium Member Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 10,515	Good luck. If you are referring to Snopes, THAT has been thoroughly debunked, the pics were photoshopped. __________________ .

02-26-2005, 11:26 AM	#12 (permalink)
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02-26-2005, 02:04 AM	#2 (permalink)
Interpretrator Crime fighter Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,440	And then read this: http://www.snopes.com/rumors/pentagon.htm Be wary of conspiracy theories. If you want to read an article about this by a professional pilot who writes a regular column for Salon, the link is below. You will have to look at an ad first if you don't subscribe. http://www.salon.com/tech/col/smith/...19/index2.html

02-26-2005, 10:10 AM	#6 (permalink)
Tousi Registered User Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 15,733	There are hundreds of theories proffered by conspiracy theorists and they have all been debunked.

02-26-2005, 10:37 AM	#9 (permalink)
Tousi Registered User Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 15,733	Beo, that scenario you just asked me about has been debunked...honestly...but I don't have the information with me right now as it is external of the Internet, a medium in which I am "all thumbs" ! I shall try to get the material together and present it if I can find it.....

02-26-2005, 11:03 AM	#11 (permalink)
Tousi Registered User Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 15,733	No, not Snopes; I said "external of the Internet". I think it was a long article in the most recent issue of Popular Mechanics.

02-26-2005, 11:46 AM	#13 (permalink)
Tousi Registered User Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 15,733	I understand, Beo, always have but the predicament for me and I guess even for yourself and a lotta other people is on which side to land on issues like this. Both views are compelling.......can you tell me in one long sentence (and nevermind Ernest Hemingway, the master of the short sentence, lol) what you think really happened and how it is you are comfortable staying there? I DO understand that it is healthy to be a watchdog to an extent but...

02-26-2005, 04:53 PM	#18 (permalink)
cady75 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 111	Wrong Conspiracy Theory Just because you believe that a plane did hit Pentagon during 9/11, does not mean that you are naive and you think your government is all good. I believe the plane hit the Pentagon, but I don't think the gov't is all good, either. Now, a GOOD question to discuss would be- Did the government have beforehand knowledge of the 9/11 attacks? And how did they react to this knowledged? (Try Googling, Presidental Memo, August 14th, 2001) (I hope I got the date right). You'd be surprised!

02-26-2005, 04:56 PM	#19 (permalink)
Beowulf Premium Member Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 10,515	[QUOTE=Reba]In other words, you can't prove your statement about the majority of conspiracy believers. Yes, I have looked at all the links that you provided (especially since your own links provide me with rebuttals). The wall is not "intact" in the sense that there is no breach. It is damaged but still standing; that doesn't disprove the accepted theory of what happened. So no, that is not evidence. "What happened here? The Pentagon wall is still standing and there is no evidence of a plane crash." "That is because of theories." "Huh?" "You see, what is accepted or not accepted goes according to those who have the the authority to tell you what you have seen, let's leave it at that." "Why are you doing the Nazi salute?" "What Nazi salute? I was merely trying to be helpful." "I see." "And you know what> There is a guy here who can tell you what you need to know. My suggestion to you is to not get on his bad side, know what I am saying?" "I think so, but gee whiz, there is no evidence there was a huge 757 crashing here as reported." "Ach. Too bad." __________________ .

02-26-2005, 04:58 PM	#20 (permalink)
cady75 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 111	Part II This is what the website says. It was August 6th, not 14th. 15) August 6 2001. Memo. President George Bush receives an intelligence briefing, titled “Bin Laden determined to strike in the U.S.” that warned that "bin Laden may attempt to " hijack airplanes." (Eggen and Woodward 5-18-2002; CBS News 5-16-2002; Boncombe 5-19-2002). (the information in quotes are from news shows that ran features on this memo). Here is the webpage it is from. This is not the ONLY webpage. This is a well known FACT. http://www.unansweredquestions.org/background_56.php

02-26-2005, 07:32 PM	#21 (permalink)
Steel X Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: The Carolinas/Rochester, NY. Posts: 13,824	hmmm that's pretty interesting... though they did say how many people died on the twin towers and the planes who crashed the twin towers in New York... but I don't think I've even heard the number of deaths from the plane to the pentagon... so I guess what you are saying there is called a "set up"?

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