Abstinence A Failure

***VamPyroX*** · 02-03-2005, 09:21 PM

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Texas Teens Increased Sex After Abstinence Program

Mon Jan 31, 4:43 PM ET
Health - Reuters

HOUSTON (Reuters) - Abstinence-only sex education programs, a major plank in President Bush (news - web sites)'s education plan, have had no impact on teenagers' behavior in his home state of Texas, according to a new study.

Despite taking courses emphasizing abstinence-only themes, teenagers in 29 high schools became increasingly sexually active, mirroring the overall state trends, according to the study conducted by researchers at Texas A&M University.

"We didn't see any strong indications that these programs were having an impact in the direction desired," said Dr. Buzz Pruitt, who directed the study.

The study was delivered to the Texas Department of State Health Services, which commissioned it.

The federal government is expected to spend about $130 million to fund programs advocating abstinence in 2005, despite a lack of evidence that they work, Pruitt said.

"The jury is still out, but most of what we've discovered shows there's no evidence the large amount of money spent is having an effect," he said.

The study showed about 23 percent of ninth-grade girls, typically 13 to 14 years old, had sex before receiving abstinence education. After taking the course, 29 percent of the girls in the same group said they had had sex.

Boys in the tenth grade, about 14 to 15 years old, showed a more marked increase, from 24 percent to 39 percent, after receiving abstinence education.

Abstinence-only programs, which have sprouted up in schools across the nation, cannot offer information about birth control and must promote the social and health benefits of abstaining from sex.

Pruitt said he hoped the study would bring about changes in the content of abstinence-promoting programs.

"These programs seem to be much more concerned about politics than kids, and we need to get over that," he said.

One program technique has been to try to bolster students' self-esteem, based on the theory that self-confident teenagers would not have sex. Those programs, which sometimes do not even mention sex, have shown no effect, Pruitt said.

Other programs that focus on the social norms and expectations appear to be more successful, he said.

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/nm/20050131/hl_nm/health_abstinence_texas_dc

More proof that Bush isn't doing us any good!

FeistyChick · 02-03-2005, 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by VamPyroX

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/nm/20050131/hl_nm/health_abstinence_texas_dc

More proof that Bush isn't doing us any good!

and our ole famous ravieboy LOVES bushiebullshitter?? ERM...

Vance · 02-03-2005, 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by zesty

and our ole famous ravieboy LOVES bushiebullshitter?? ERM...

You know what's funny about him? He practically want many of women to be prostitutes and yet he is rooting for Bush, a idiotic president who created the abstinence program... a program that will never work in millions of years.

That's what I like about him, he always contradicted himself

Back to topic, I am glad to hear that Bush's program is utterly failed.

FeistyChick · 02-03-2005, 09:32 PM

Originally Posted by zesty
and our ole famous ravieboy LOVES bushiebullshitter?? ERM...

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Originally Posted by Magatsu

You know what's funny about him? He practically want many of women to be prostitutes and yet he is rooting for Bush, a idiotic president who created the abstinence program... a program that will never work in millions of years.

That's what I like about him, he always contradicted himself

Back to topic, I am glad to hear that Bush's program is utterly failed. <<< ME TOO!!

thats why i made that remark.. as you got my drift.. ERM..

Crazymanw00t · 02-03-2005, 10:22 PM

Hey wait minute people!!!

YOU CAN'T POINT THAT OUT TO BUSH! I do not understand that you always tend to blame Bush for little things while he tried do his best for this country. If you were in his shoe and you will do same thing, anyway. He is overwhelming with war, homosexual marriage, budget, and now with Social Ser.'s situation. Give him some credits that he did his best for our country.

YOU GOTTA TO POINT IT OUT TO THE MEDIA SYSTEM. Media system caused us to change our thinking in this society. Ex, at 1950s the movie made first make-out kiss and then it spread so fast in our society. Again in somewhere 1960s first dry sex and then it spread out so fast that we think dry sex is ok. Then and then with different situations. Main point, the Media controls our life, period. We need to kill the media's controlling on our life and change our thinking society back to 1940's life. It is easy to do and we need everyone's support to make it happen and fight aganist the media companies.

harleymn · 02-04-2005, 12:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Crazymanw00t

Hey wait minute people!!!

YOU CAN'T POINT THAT OUT TO BUSH! I do not understand that you always tend to blame Bush for little things while he tried do his best for this country. If you were in his shoe and you will do same thing, anyway. He is overwhelming with war, homosexual marriage, budget, and now with Social Ser.'s situation. Give him some credits that he did his best for our country.

YOU GOTTA TO POINT IT OUT TO THE MEDIA SYSTEM. Media system caused us to change our thinking in this society. Ex, at 1950s the movie made first make-out kiss and then it spread so fast in our society. Again in somewhere 1960s first dry sex and then it spread out so fast that we think dry sex is ok. Then and then with different situations. Main point, the Media controls our life, period. We need to kill the media's controlling on our life and change our thinking society back to 1940's life. It is easy to do and we need everyone's support to make it happen and fight aganist the media companies.

they only believe one source then blame bush for this and that blah blah ,youre right he is trying different angles to make things work etc all demcrats is piont finger one little mistakes thats crap.

Vance · 02-04-2005, 01:01 AM

Crazymanw00t, first of all... Social Security, there is NO crisis. Many economy analysts already confirmed that there is no crisis. Bush created the fake message then he took the blame for under the stress, not us.

Secondly, He declared the war on Iraq, not us then he took the blame for under the stress, not us. I can list more... and more...

Religious Right wants to establish the abstinence program and Bush gave the final approval knowing that the program does not work. After all, it is federal program and it is part of Bush's plan... Reread the article again. The president have the final authority for many things. He should know better than that but he didn't.

As you said, "If you were in his shoe and you will do same thing"

You see, if I am in his shoes... I WILL WIPE THESE BULLSHIT (gay marriage, Social Security, war, etc) OUT and FOCUS ON ECONOMY and other things. War is wrong. I will stop it immediately. Social Security crisis is fake and gay marriage ban is nonsense, I will shove it down these Religious Right's throats and let them choke on their own bullshits.

Voila, I solved these in one hour. More than half of Americans will cheer my name constantly.

Um, you cannot blame everything on media alone. There are few factors which causes these excessive hormones. Look, Japan and Sweden aired the excessive nudity and all on TV, it is part of their culture and GUESS WHAT? rape and excessive sex rate included abortion rate is relatively low when compared to America.

Note: This post contains semi-sarcasms.

Crazymanw00t · 02-04-2005, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Magatsu

Crazymanw00t, first of all... Social Security, there is NO crisis. Many economy analysts already confirmed that there is no crisis. Bush created the fake message then he took the blame for under the stress, not us.

Secondly, He declared the war on Iraq, not us then he took the blame for under the stress, not us. I can list more... and more...

Religious Right wants to establish the abstinence program and Bush gave the final approval knowing that the program does not work. After all, it is federal program and it is part of Bush's plan... Reread the article again. The president have the final authority for many things. He should know better than that but he didn't.

As you said, "If you were in his shoe and you will do same thing"

You see, if I am in his shoes... I WILL WIPE THESE BULLSHIT (gay marriage, Social Security, war, etc) OUT and FOCUS ON ECONOMY and other things. War is wrong. I will stop it immediately. Social Security crisis is fake and gay marriage ban is nonsense, I will shove it down these Religious Right's throats and let them choke on their own bullshits.

Voila, I solved these in one hour. More than half of Americans will cheer my name constantly.

Um, you cannot blame everything on media alone. There are few factors which causes these excessive hormones. Look, Japan and Sweden aired the excessive nudity and all on TV, it is part of their culture and GUESS WHAT? rape and excessive sex rate included abortion rate is relatively low when compared to America.

Note: This post contains semi-sarcasms.

Economy isn't everything for your information.
American won't cheer for you if you only focus on economy.
From my view, you seems don't understand all his stress with his position handling the American's life. It is a hell job position that anyone could take.

Oceanbreeze · 02-04-2005, 11:27 AM

I actually don't think the message of abstinance is a compete failure, but I am wise enough to know that it doesn't always work, because, each person is different. Some people will take the message seriously, while others will not.

I really believe that you need to give both sides of the "story" to our kids. You're not gonna get by with just preaching abstinance. That's not gonna fly. You need to present every option. Our kids are too saavy, and too intelligent. They want options. Not just a one-sided solution crammed down their throats.

I was the proverbial "good girl". I never got in trouble in this sort of way. I abided by curfew under penalty of death from Daddy. You get the idea. I heard the abstinance message, and it was what it was.

But, I really think what kept me "honest" was knowing that getting pregnant would have a profound affect on my health. To be honest, I was quite scared of it knowing that it could cause me harm, so I just made sure I didn't get into a bad position. SO, it was that that kept me from sex. Not the abstinance message itself.

So, take this for what it's worth. Just my two cents.

02-04-2005, 01:01 AM	#7 (permalink)
Vance Registered User Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 4,280	Crazymanw00t, first of all... Social Security, there is NO crisis. Many economy analysts already confirmed that there is no crisis. Bush created the fake message then he took the blame for under the stress, not us. Secondly, He declared the war on Iraq, not us then he took the blame for under the stress, not us. I can list more... and more... Religious Right wants to establish the abstinence program and Bush gave the final approval knowing that the program does not work. After all, it is federal program and it is part of Bush's plan... Reread the article again. The president have the final authority for many things. He should know better than that but he didn't. As you said, "If you were in his shoe and you will do same thing" You see, if I am in his shoes... I WILL WIPE THESE BULLSHIT (gay marriage, Social Security, war, etc) OUT and FOCUS ON ECONOMY and other things. War is wrong. I will stop it immediately. Social Security crisis is fake and gay marriage ban is nonsense, I will shove it down these Religious Right's throats and let them choke on their own bullshits. Voila, I solved these in one hour. More than half of Americans will cheer my name constantly. Um, you cannot blame everything on media alone. There are few factors which causes these excessive hormones. Look, Japan and Sweden aired the excessive nudity and all on TV, it is part of their culture and GUESS WHAT? rape and excessive sex rate included abortion rate is relatively low when compared to America. Note: This post contains semi-sarcasms. Last edited by Magatsu; 02-04-2005 at 01:16 AM.

02-04-2005, 11:27 AM	#9 (permalink)
Oceanbreeze I'm back :) Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: S. FL Posts: 5,839	I actually don't think the message of abstinance is a compete failure, but I am wise enough to know that it doesn't always work, because, each person is different. Some people will take the message seriously, while others will not. I really believe that you need to give both sides of the "story" to our kids. You're not gonna get by with just preaching abstinance. That's not gonna fly. You need to present every option. Our kids are too saavy, and too intelligent. They want options. Not just a one-sided solution crammed down their throats. I was the proverbial "good girl". I never got in trouble in this sort of way. I abided by curfew under penalty of death from Daddy. You get the idea. I heard the abstinance message, and it was what it was. But, I really think what kept me "honest" was knowing that getting pregnant would have a profound affect on my health. To be honest, I was quite scared of it knowing that it could cause me harm, so I just made sure I didn't get into a bad position. SO, it was that that kept me from sex. Not the abstinance message itself. So, take this for what it's worth. Just my two cents. __________________ In Memoriam 1966 - 2007

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02-03-2005, 10:22 PM	#5 (permalink)
Crazymanw00t Jesus Christ is my LORD! Join Date: May 2004 Location: San Mateo, CA Posts: 818	Hey wait minute people!!! YOU CAN'T POINT THAT OUT TO BUSH! I do not understand that you always tend to blame Bush for little things while he tried do his best for this country. If you were in his shoe and you will do same thing, anyway. He is overwhelming with war, homosexual marriage, budget, and now with Social Ser.'s situation. Give him some credits that he did his best for our country. YOU GOTTA TO POINT IT OUT TO THE MEDIA SYSTEM. Media system caused us to change our thinking in this society. Ex, at 1950s the movie made first make-out kiss and then it spread so fast in our society. Again in somewhere 1960s first dry sex and then it spread out so fast that we think dry sex is ok. Then and then with different situations. Main point, the Media controls our life, period. We need to kill the media's controlling on our life and change our thinking society back to 1940's life. It is easy to do and we need everyone's support to make it happen and fight aganist the media companies.