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Old 01-17-2005, 05:21 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Something to think about in the future.

Scientists should do expermenmts to stop or reduce powerful hurricanes.Like some chemical can be released in a catigory 3,4 or 5 storm. Like if you drop some chemical into the hurricane cloud ir would break up the cloud and reduced from a 5 storm into a 3 storm.Or a 4 storm into a 2 storm a 3 storm into a 1 storm.Or find a powerful bomb of some sort to break up the hurricane. Hurricanes do a lot of property and crop damages that WE the Consumer have to pay for down the road.
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Old 01-17-2005, 05:32 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Scientists should do expermenmts to stop or reduce powerful hurricanes.Like some chemical can be released in a catigory 3,4 or 5 storm. Like if you drop some chemical into the hurricane cloud ir would break up the cloud and reduced from a 5 storm into a 3 storm.Or a 4 storm into a 2 storm a 3 storm into a 1 storm.Or find a powerful bomb of some sort to break up the hurricane. Hurricanes do a lot of property and crop damages that WE the Consumer have to pay for down the road.
The is actually being done. Meterologists are experimenting with ways to cool the ocean temps, and ways to otherwise, reduce the intensity of hurricanes. It's theorectically possible to do, but, no one has been able to put their theories to practical use.
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Old 01-17-2005, 05:40 PM   #3 (permalink)
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They should start now! Because of last years events. But wait untill if the says if its ginna hit the US coastline if it is then release the chemical. If not leave it alone.
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Old 01-17-2005, 05:46 PM   #4 (permalink)
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What in the WORLD makes you think weather control is not already a fact?
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Old 01-17-2005, 05:46 PM   #5 (permalink)
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They should start now! Because of last years events. But wait untill if the says if its ginna hit the US coastline if it is then release the chemical. If not leave it alone.
Erm, Steve....THERE IS NO chemical yet....The scientists are just experimenting with things..concepts...There's nothing concrete yet to try. Maybe sometime in the future, but not yet.
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Old 01-17-2005, 05:51 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Ermmm, wanna bet?
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Old 01-17-2005, 05:52 PM   #7 (permalink)
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What in the WORLD makes you think weather control is not already a fact?
Probably... Probably not... but trying to control the weather is always backfire soon or later.

No one can mess around with Mother Nature and get away with it. That's the 'rule'.
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Old 01-17-2005, 06:14 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Probably... Probably not... but trying to control the weather is always backfire soon or later.

No one can mess around with Mother Nature and get away with it. That's the 'rule'.
Surprise, surprise! I am with you on this one.

Terrible as they are, hurricanes serve a necessary function in the climate and ecosystem of our planet. Scientists might develope a temporary "fix" for a hurricane but you can be sure that the forces of nature will respond in other ways, maybe even worse.

I think they should concentrate their resources on perfecting hurricane prediction, better building codes, better evacuation planning, and restricting development of fragile coastal areas.

I live in a hurricane zone, so this is not idle chatter for me.
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Old 01-17-2005, 06:23 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Oh mannnnnn, now it's snowing in hell?
I better sell more pencils on street corners, I lost this bet BIG time.

But seriously, weather control has been past the drawing board for a LONG time. I PERSONALLY know this.
I have been able to split clouds with orgone energy in the mid seventies, and that was a long time ago, right?
No lie.
You are absolutely right, do not mess with Mother Nature, but are they messing right now?
*shrugging*

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Old 01-17-2005, 06:57 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Reba, with your agreement, I almost had a heart attack

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Oh mannnnnn, now it's snowing in hell?
I better sell more pencils on street corners, I lost this bet BIG time.

But seriously, weather control has been past the drawing board for a LONG time. I PERSONALLY know this.
I have been able to split clouds with orgone energy in the mid seventies, and that was a long time ago, right?
No lie.
Theoretically speaking, weather have been acting up or 'whacko' in these years... Maybe that's why?

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You are absolutely right, do not mess with Mother Nature, but are they messing right now?
*shrugging*
Based on evidences, I believe so. They already did ever since Industry Revolution.

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We need them to do experment on the first catigory 3 storm in the 2005 hurricane season and see what happens.
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Mars needs you first, though.
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Old 01-17-2005, 07:17 PM   #13 (permalink)
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i somehow got involved with another
online discussions during recent hurricanes discovering
that "Government" do NOT want to do anything to
STOP or block any incoming hurricanes...
"Government" prefer to spend money on other things
such as building codes, renovations, etc....

I saw one of these houses in Florida it was
supposed to be "hurricane proof" designed home
which already met their building codes/standards
but it still got destroyed from hurricane anyway....
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Old 01-17-2005, 08:29 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Leave mother nature alone, they have been here for thousand years. It is part of earth cycle.
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Yeah...My vote goes with Reba. Leave mother nature alone and let it take its course. In the meantime, improve on building codes and 'Hurricane Proofing' those prone areas...I know Florida has made a lot of improvements, but a lot more needs to be done.

I do know of some experiments that have been done, such as seeding clouds in areas of severe drought. Particles are released into the air that cause water vapor to condense....making a cloud. This cloud will either peter out or become a rain storm.

The problem with mother nature is if we screw something up...it happens globally and there may be no turning back. I'm trying to remember the story of a place that had some sort of bug problem (think it was in austrailia)..so then the brought in some sort of frog to eat all of the bugs...then the place became overrun with frogs...and there is no turning back LOL. Our ecosystem is very fragile and should be handled carefully.

Another example that comes to mind is forest fires. Forest fires are a natural event that 'clean' the landscape. We spent decades preventing forest fires and what happened? The landscape became over-run with old brush...then when a fire occured, there was so much fuel that it became a catastrophic fire. We've since learned that brush fires are a good thing.
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Old 01-17-2005, 10:28 PM   #16 (permalink)
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I saw one of these houses in Florida it was
supposed to be "hurricane proof" designed home
which already met their building codes/standards
but it still got destroyed from hurricane anyway....
Was it an "egg-shaped" dome house? Those are supposed to be the strongest resistant to the wind. They are very weird looking but very strong. Of course, no house is totally hurricane "proof" but they can be hurricane "resistant".

All of our new coastal houses in SC are required to be built on raised pilings "stilts" to protect from flooding. All new roofs must have hurricane tie-downs. We even put them in our shed roof.

Even with all precautions, I know that a strong wind can blow one of our 60-80-ft. trees on our roof and that will be that.
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Old 01-17-2005, 10:32 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Why should i pay $3 for a tomato? Why should i pay $2 for a gallon of gas when hurricanes destroy crops and oil refineries. I want them cut down the strenth of a hurricane.
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Hurricane controlling is still on the experimental level. It's probably at the same stage of experimentation as the cure for cancer, predicting earthquakes, curing the common cold, and the search for intelligent extraterrestrial life. Sure, it may happen someday, but it's not gonna happen in 2005.
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Old 01-17-2005, 10:56 PM   #19 (permalink)
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Weather experimentation means tampering.
You just do not get it. Sighhh....
It's like saying "Oh yeah, folks, someday we are gonna kill children in Iraq."
It is done.
Get over it. Learn something.

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I wouldn't want anyone to mess with mother nature, they would strike back! I want to keep them natural, no matter what. There is NOTHING we can do with it. I don't like when people mess with mother nature, it's stupid and ridicilous.
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I totally agree.
There have been SO MANY advances in our military technology since I was in high school, which was before 1970. But I remember that the impossible dream was for computer-controlled weapons. That was the IMPOSSIBLE dream, and now it is a reality accepted by all. Anyway, the hot topic of that time was weather control. I do NOT understand why people today think it impossible, because I SWEAR I did it on a small scale.
What is your fucking brainwashed problem???

I will not go into details, but a group of us COULD point rods to clouds and split them. Nuff said.
No lie. And THAT was in the mid seventies.

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Old 01-18-2005, 07:18 AM   #22 (permalink)
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Beowulf, since you're not going to go into details, I can't comment on whether or not what you say is true. Some kind of system using radiation or chemicals to split the clouds doesn't change much except to divert where those clouds are going.

Here's my stance. We, humans, have the unique capability to MASSIVELY affect our environment to increase our chances of survival. "Mother nature" does not "get upset and fight back" at our actions, the environment naturally reacts to our activities in ways we just can't forsee because of the enormous complexities of a WORLD interconnected.

Ever heard of the phrase, "when a butterfly flaps its wings in China, the stock market falls in Wall Street?" It's called the Butterfly effect -- what the heck does one have to do with the other? We may not be able to see it easily, or even prove it easily, but because of how big the world is, when we change one thing in the weather, we cannot easily foresee how it will affect the big picture.

What my frickin' point? Go ahead and mess with the weather. Learn how to control it with mistakes and experiments. Everyone will always be afraid of "big bad Mother Nature" when in fact there IS NO BIG BAD MOTHER NATURE. We can't "fuck it up beyond repair" because the EARTH HAS BEEN AROUND PRACTICALLY FOREVER without us in existence.
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Old 01-18-2005, 05:08 PM   #23 (permalink)
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People whats wrong with a catigory 2 hurricane? anything under catigory 3 hurricane doesnt do much damage to crops and homes.
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