Why online comment are so toxic - Page 2

Frisky Feline · 08-08-2012, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by rolling7

To all AD members,

According to Jiro, if you have never met "us" in person or bother to meet "us"
you are a troublemaker or agitator.

I met him in person. He treats me like a queen.

**Oddball** · 08-08-2012, 01:05 PM

I met Jiro in person and I had no problems with him. I've enjoyed his company.

**Jiro** · 08-08-2012, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by rolling7

To all AD members,

According to Jiro, if you have never met "us" in person or bother to meet "us"
you are a troublemaker or agitator.

I see that my post has been removed - probably by mistake but I'll restate it here.

"I am aware of certain constraints (financially, medically, etc.) that prevent ADer from meeting other ADer and that's ok with me. There are a lot of ADers who have never met with other ADers but most of time - they usually get along just fine with everybody else in AD. I know they do want to meet with other ADers but they just simply can't for time being. I have no problem with that.

However, there are some ADers who have absolutely no interest in meeting with other ADer and most of time in AD, they are just causing problems and creating arguments. Hence..... a troublemaker or an agitator. That's precisely what Post #1 is all about. Easy for them to make trouble when they're anonymous.

Many of us in AD knows each other and I believe that's what contributes to AD's well-being as a community. Look at bunch of other deaf forums. They didn't last as long as AD because it was full of anonymous people being vicious with each other."

Please use your common sense. You are much older than me so you should be old enough to understand what I'm trying to say unless you're being too literal and see everything too linearly. I'll repeat for you in a very simple term - "If you have absolutely no interest in meeting with any of us and you have "I don't give a shit" attitude and most of your time in here is making problem... then you're a troublemaker and an agitator." Is that simple enough for you to understand? Do you understand?

**Jiro** · 08-08-2012, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Frisky Feline

I met him in person. He treats me like a queen.

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Originally Posted by Oddball

I met Jiro in person and I had no problems with him. I've enjoyed his company.

trying to snake your way into getting free meals and coffees from me, I see....

AlleyCat · 08-08-2012, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Jiro

trying to snake your way into getting free meals and coffees from me, I see....

Well, both are lovely ladies, after all!

**Jiro** · 08-08-2012, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by AlleyCat

Well, both are lovely ladies, after all!

oh not you too.....

**Bottesini** · 08-08-2012, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Jiro

trying to snake your way into getting free meals and coffees from me, I see....

wait... Free meals and coffee??

Are you coming to Iowa??

**Jiro** · 08-08-2012, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Bottesini

wait... Free meals and coffee??

Are you coming to Iowa??

oh my.... another one....

rockin'robin · 08-08-2012, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by AlleyCat

Did he name who?

No clue...and I said "I was just guessing"...

**Foxrac** · 08-08-2012, 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Jiro

I see that my post has been removed - probably by mistake but I'll restate it here.

"I am aware of certain constraints (financially, medically, etc.) that prevent ADer from meeting other ADer and that's ok with me. There are a lot of ADers who have never met with other ADers but most of time - they usually get along just fine with everybody else in AD. I know they do want to meet with other ADers but they just simply can't for time being. I have no problem with that.

However, there are some ADers who have absolutely no interest in meeting with other ADer and most of time in AD, they are just causing problems and creating arguments. Hence..... a troublemaker or an agitator. That's precisely what Post #1 is all about. Easy for them to make trouble when they're anonymous.

Many of us in AD knows each other and I believe that's what contributes to AD's well-being as a community. Look at bunch of other deaf forums. They didn't last as long as AD because it was full of anonymous people being vicious with each other."

Please use your common sense. You are much older than me so you should be old enough to understand what I'm trying to say unless you're being too literal and see everything too linearly. I'll repeat for you in a very simple term - "If you have absolutely no interest in meeting with any of us and you have "I don't give a shit" attitude and most of your time in here is making problem... then you're a troublemaker and an agitator." Is that simple enough for you to understand? Do you understand?

I never meet any ADers in my life and almost did at Gally but got lost due to extremely crowded in homecoming. I don't find your post to be offend at me because I have some reasons to unable to meet with someone.

You are free to state the opinion, even extreme, strong or critical opinion whatever you want. I don't understand why other members took your post seriously.

rockin'robin · 08-08-2012, 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Jiro

I see that my post has been removed - probably by mistake but I'll restate it here.

"I am aware of certain constraints (financially, medically, etc.) that prevent ADer from meeting other ADer and that's ok with me. There are a lot of ADers who have never met with other ADers but most of time - they usually get along just fine with everybody else in AD. I know they do want to meet with other ADers but they just simply can't for time being. I have no problem with that.

However, there are some ADers who have absolutely no interest in meeting with other ADer and most of time in AD, they are just causing problems and creating arguments. Hence..... a troublemaker or an agitator. That's precisely what Post #1 is all about. Easy for them to make trouble when they're anonymous.

Many of us in AD knows each other and I believe that's what contributes to AD's well-being as a community. Look at bunch of other deaf forums. They didn't last as long as AD because it was full of anonymous people being vicious with each other."

Please use your common sense. You are much older than me so you should be old enough to understand what I'm trying to say unless you're being too literal and see everything too linearly. I'll repeat for you in a very simple term - "If you have absolutely no interest in meeting with any of us and you have "I don't give a shit" attitude and most of your time in here is making problem... then you're a troublemaker and an agitator." Is that simple enough for you to understand? Do you understand?

Perhaps you needed to use more simple wording in the beginning, Jiro.....or either you are back-pedaling.....but anyhow, I don't see any members who are here to start trouble or be agitative....we all have a right to our opinions, and to state them....a lot of members are here for information....some for clarity....some for help...some for friendship...some are lonely....the list goes on and on. I believe the Mods clean up very well....and feel to point a finger at "some" members who you or someone "thinks" are troublemakers and agitators....just don't feel it's your place to do so....Just report to the Mods.

**Jiro** · 08-08-2012, 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by rockin'robin

Perhaps you needed to use more simple wording in the beginning, Jiro.....or either you are back-pedaling.....but anyhow, I don't see any members who are here to start trouble or be agitative....we all have a right to our opinions, and to state them....a lot of members are here for information....some for clarity....some for help...some for friendship...some are lonely....the list goes on and on. I believe the Mods clean up very well....and feel to point a finger at "some" members who you or someone "thinks" are troublemakers and agitators....just don't feel it's your place to do so....Just report to the Mods.

1. it was simple enough. perhaps too simple that some of you took offense to it and I have no idea why since I've never pointed finger at someone.
2. I've never mentioned a specific person
3. you are contradicting yourself. you stated that we all have a right to our opinions and to state them.... so why can't I state my opinion? I've never pointed a finger at someone.
4. I do report trolls to mods

SeanB · 08-08-2012, 05:00 PM

I'm new here, but the fact that Jiro has mentioned the above without mod status makes me wonder.

ambrosia · 08-08-2012, 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by S.O.B.

I'm new here, but the fact that Jiro has mentioned the above without mod status makes me wonder.

you've been here for 4 years o_0

rockin'robin · 08-08-2012, 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Jiro

1. it was simple enough. perhaps too simple that some of you took offense to it and I have no idea why since I've never pointed finger at someone.
2. I've never mentioned a specific person
3. you are contradicting yourself. you stated that we all have a right to our opinions and to state them.... so why can't I state my opinion? I've never pointed a finger at someone.
4. I do report trolls to mods

Number 3....No, you didn't mention a specific person...just "some members"....which I replied to (in case I was one of the members you were posting about)....since I could not at the time meet you in person....Then you replied that I was not a troublemaker or an agitator....so it leaves many members up in the air....wondering who you are actually implying to....

Feel sometimes it's just best to bite the bullet and leave it all be....

SeanB · 08-08-2012, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by ambrosia

you've been here for 4 years o_0

Yeah, just not here often. Hello btw...

MushyCookies · 08-08-2012, 06:03 PM

Did somebody say Coffee? and free meals? O.o <3

**Jolie77** · 08-08-2012, 10:43 PM

The thread title is actually living up to it's name. That's how toxic it has became.

**Bottesini** · 08-08-2012, 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by S.O.B.

I'm new here, but the fact that Jiro has mentioned the above without mod status makes me wonder.

You've got 512 posts in your four years here. That's far from new, and if you think Jiro is bossy without being a mod, obviously you haven't met me.

Why don't you think people can express their opinions without mod status?

I wouldn't want to be on a forum where the mods were the only ones allowed to speak out.

SeanB · 08-08-2012, 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Bottesini

You've got 512 posts in your four years here. That's far from new, and if you think Jiro is bossy without being a mod, obviously you haven't met me.

Why don't you think people can express their opinions without mod status?

I wouldn't want to be on a forum where the mods were the
only ones allowed to speak out.

I recall you which I am aware of your approach to other posters. Reread what I just meant, or are you looking to escalate what was already established here?

MushyCookies · 08-08-2012, 11:47 PM

Jiro does have a point. His opinon may be a little strong and a little bit forward to some but it is his opinon nonetheless and i don't think he meant for it to offend or upset anybody.

**Jiro** · 08-08-2012, 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by S.O.B.

I recall you which I am aware of your approach to other posters. Reread what I just meant, or are you looking to escalate what was already established here?

or you can clarify what you meant.

SeanB · 08-08-2012, 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by MushyCookies

Jiro does have a point. His opinon may be a little strong and a little bit forward to some but it is his opinon nonetheless and i don't think he meant for it to offend or upset anybody.

Exactly, I made mine like Jiro does his, if he wants to respond "in kind", I respect that. Others to whom I did not direct an opinion towards to talking for him, that says there are other things in mind.

**Jiro** · 08-09-2012, 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by S.O.B.

Exactly, I made mine like Jiro does his, if he wants to respond "in kind", I respect that. Others to whom I did not direct an opinion towards to talking for him, that says there are other things in mind.

the difference between your post and mine is that mine is more direct and to the point.

I have absolutely no idea what you're trying to say....... it's so vague and confusing.

SeanB · 08-09-2012, 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Jiro

or you can clarify what you meant.

I came upon some rules or ideas explaining your opinion on what makes someone legit, reminded me of mod enforcement, nothing more. You know what? I think the necessary points have been made, I hint for

**Rio** · 08-09-2012, 12:14 AM

Wirelessly posted

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Originally Posted by S.O.B.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jiro

or you can clarify what you meant.

I came upon some rules or ideas explaining your opinion on what makes someone legit, reminded me of mod enforcement, nothing more. You know what? I think the necessary points have been made, I hint for

The mod will put warning or lock if you continue those lock icons. Best to keep this thread healthy in debate.

SeanB · 08-09-2012, 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Rio

Wirelessly posted

The mod will put warning or lock if you continue those lock icons. Best to keep this thread healthy in debate.

I'm not the thread author, thus the hint.

MushyCookies · 08-09-2012, 12:18 AM

I think they are what you call "trolls" Do not feed the trolls. >=(

**Jiro** · 08-09-2012, 12:21 AM

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Originally Posted by S.O.B.

I came upon some rules or ideas explaining your opinion on what makes someone legit, reminded me of mod enforcement, nothing more. You know what? I think the necessary points have been made, I hint for

this thread isn't about whether or not if an ADer is legit. I mean... obviously every ADer in here is a real human... right?

this thread is about people being trolls, troublemakers, agitators, haters, etc. because of online anonymity.

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Online anonymity creates a sense of a culture without consequences.

most troublemakers/agitators in AD have:

1. never met any of us
2. never bothered to meet any of us
3. never made any effort to meet any of us
4. never had any interest in being "online friend" with any of us
5. never wanted to share any of their personal stuff such as stating their home state or posting a pix of themselves in avator or pix thread
6. never wanted nor had any intention to get along with any of us in AD

I don't understand why a person would be so mean and hateful online when they aren't mean in real life. It boggles me and it's extremely disturbing.

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"Social psychologists have known for decades that, if we reduce our sense of our own identity -- a process called deindividuation -- we are less likely to stick to social norms," wrote Michael Marshall in New Scientist . "The same thing happens with online communication... Psychologically, we are 'distant' from the person we're talking to and less focused on our own identity. As a result we're more prone to aggressive behavior."

like I said previously - many ADers know each other in real life.... therefore creating a community where AD is more civilized and harmonious despite of a few bad eggs. beside - every society has a few bad eggs anyway.

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One of the strangest things about the commenters from that Brooklyn blog was that many of them had in-person relationships. They held regular meetups in local bars, attaching a face, if not their real names, to their screen personas. And for a few days after these gatherings, the comments would be less vitriolic, as if the civility of the evening leaked onto the virtual pages of our site.

SeanB · 08-09-2012, 12:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Jiro

this thread isn't about whether or not if an ADer is legit. I mean... obviously every ADer in here is a real human... right?

this thread is about people being trolls, troublemakers, agitators, haters, etc. becau,se of online anonymity.

most troublemakers/agitators in AD have:

1. never met any of us
2. never bothered to meet any of us
3. never made any effort to meet any of us
4. never had any interest in being "online friend" with any of us
5. never wanted to share any of their personal stuff such as stating their home state or posting a pix of themselves in avator or pix thread
6. never wanted nor had any intention to get along with any of us in AD

I don't understand why a person would be so mean and hateful online when they aren't mean in real life. It boggles me and it's extremely disturbing.

like I said previously - many ADers know each other in real life.... therefore creating a community where AD is more civilized and harmonious despite of a few bad eggs. beside - every society has a few bad eggs anyway.

I've read the above posted, sir, I stick to my posts.

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08-08-2012, 01:05 PM	#32 (permalink)
Oddball Premium Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: The Toxic State Posts: 4,570	I met Jiro in person and I had no problems with him. I've enjoyed his company.

08-08-2012, 05:00 PM	#43 (permalink)
SeanB Registered User Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 723	I'm new here, but the fact that Jiro has mentioned the above without mod status makes me wonder.

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MushyCookies Registered User Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Salem, Oregon. Posts: 413	Jiro does have a point. His opinon may be a little strong and a little bit forward to some but it is his opinon nonetheless and i don't think he meant for it to offend or upset anybody.

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MushyCookies Registered User Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Salem, Oregon. Posts: 413	I think they are what you call "trolls" Do not feed the trolls. >=(