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Unread 07-24-2012, 10:19 AM   #211 (permalink)
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Be careful with how you word things as the absent of proper quantifiers in no regard to location show that you say, "A massacre like this is rare [anywhere]."

Massacres might be rare here in America, but it is most certainly not rare in other countries, especially third world countries. Take Syria for example!
Jiro did say, "massacres like this." That means, lone crazed gunman attacking random innocent people, not a political massacre, drug cartel massacre, ethnic cleansing, crime family vendetta or gang warfare.
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Unread 07-24-2012, 10:24 AM   #212 (permalink)
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Jiro did say, "massacres like this." That means, lone crazed gunman attacking random innocent people, not a political massacre, drug cartel massacre, ethnic cleansing, crime family vendetta or gang warfare.

I know, but even though one may not pay attention to third world countries, it happens there frequently.

By the way, I recently read this article. What are your thoughts on this article?

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Unread 07-24-2012, 10:29 AM   #213 (permalink)
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I know, but even though one may not pay attention to third world countries, it happens there frequently.

By the way, I recently read this article. What are your thoughts on this article?

Official: 'Goat man' in Utah mountains is hunter - Yahoo! News
My thoughts are, that it has nothing to do with this thread, so let's move on. Start your own thread if it's important to you.
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Unread 07-24-2012, 12:45 PM   #214 (permalink)
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Unread 07-24-2012, 02:13 PM   #215 (permalink)
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what Bebonang said. the gun in its original design isn't really designed for "massacre". he assembled it into a disgusting killing machine.

An AR15 is and AR15 no matter what unless it is full auto or law enforcement or military use only with a short barrel! He only bought what was legal and it is no different than any other AR15 except for the drum magazine! That does not mean that the gun was modified. All AR15s are assembled by someone! His may have been like many others which are custom?! Doesn't make it a killing machine though!
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Unread 07-24-2012, 02:15 PM   #216 (permalink)
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I think this guy will get shivved soon to avoid any uncomfortable questionings.
Nope, because they will most likely keep him in solitary confinement for his protection and to preserve any information that they may get from him!
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Unread 07-24-2012, 03:41 PM   #217 (permalink)
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Nope, because they will most likely keep him in solitary confinement for his protection and to preserve any information that they may get from him!
That's just what Jiro was thinking and we never know about going on, even ill killer can be die in anytime.

I think shivved is means suicided or kill himself.

Most killers that where massacre occurred committed suicide, especially VT Tech shooting, Columbine massacre and Capitol Hill massacre.
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Unread 07-24-2012, 03:50 PM   #218 (permalink)
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Unread 07-24-2012, 04:05 PM   #219 (permalink)
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...I think shivved is means suicided or kill himself....
A shiv is a contraband, handmade knife-like object that convicts use to kill each other in prison. It usually used for murder, not suicide.
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A shiv is a contraband, handmade knife-like object that convicts use to kill each other in prison. It usually used for murder, not suicide.
Oh really, it means other prisoner kills James Holmes in prison, for example?
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Unread 07-24-2012, 04:15 PM   #221 (permalink)
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Oh really, it means other prisoner kills James Holmes in prison, for example?
If he eventually ends up in general population in prison, it's possible.
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If he eventually ends up in general population in prison, it's possible.
Oh I see, I don't know if he is in solitary confinement or regular confinement since news didn't say, but high attention to public like media will probably put him in solitary confinement.
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Oh I see, I don't know if he is in solitary confinement or regular confinement since news didn't say, but high attention to public like media will probably put him in solitary confinement.
"AURORA, Colo. (Reuters) - The 24-year-old graduate student accused of killing 12 people in a shooting rampage at a Denver-area screening of the new Batman film was being held in solitary confinement for his own protection from other inmates, authorities said on Saturday.

'We typically do this in high-profile cases," Arapahoe County Sheriff Grayson Robinson told Reuters. 'It has nothing to do with any specific threat.'"
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Unread 07-24-2012, 05:37 PM   #224 (permalink)
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Unread 07-24-2012, 07:56 PM   #225 (permalink)
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An AR15 is and AR15 no matter what unless it is full auto or law enforcement or military use only with a short barrel! He only bought what was legal and it is no different than any other AR15 except for the drum magazine! That does not mean that the gun was modified. All AR15s are assembled by someone! His may have been like many others which are custom?! Doesn't make it a killing machine though!
you misunderstood. AR15 can be modified for a specific thing - hunting, shooting competition, home self-defense, military, law enforcement, ...... and massacre.

This guy modified his gun to be a disgusting killing machine with one single goal in mind - to kill as many innocents as he can in a short amount of time.
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Be careful with how you word things as the absent of proper quantifiers in no regard to location show that you say, "A massacre like this is rare [anywhere]."

Massacres might be rare here in America, but it is most certainly not rare in other countries, especially third world countries. Take Syria for example!
lol what? I clearly know what I'm talking about. clearly.
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Unread 07-24-2012, 08:41 PM   #227 (permalink)
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Oh I see, I don't know if he is in solitary confinement or regular confinement since news didn't say, but high attention to public like media will probably put him in solitary confinement.
It been reported a numbers of times that the shooter is in solitary confinement.
A priest was in jail for raping young boys and another inmate killed the priest.
This happen in Boston Ma., I was surprised the priest was not in solitary confinement.
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you misunderstood. AR15 can be modified for a specific thing - hunting, shooting competition, home self-defense, military, law enforcement, ...... and massacre.

This guy modified his gun to be a disgusting killing machine with one single goal in mind - to kill as many innocents as he can in a short amount of time.
I don't think so! The only thing that made it any different from any other AR15 is the drum magazine and lots of people have them too! If it's modified for massacre then it would have to be fully automatic!
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I found out that James Holmes is same age as mine and born in 1987, also he completed bachelor of science degree.

Wow, what's waste of life and money for college, and his life will be permanently ruined because he will probably sentence to death penalty or life in prison. If he used Pell Grant or federal loans so what's big waste of taxpayer's money.
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I found out that James Holmes is same age as mine and born in 1987, also he completed bachelor of science degree.

Wow, what's waste of life and money for college, and his life will be permanently ruined because he will probably sentence to death penalty or life in prison. If he used Pell Grant or federal loans so what's big waste of taxpayer's money.
I am thinking that he may have snapped due to all the pressure from med school. I was reading an article today that he is displaying symptoms of someone who had a psychotic breakdown. He is constantly spitting at the guards and has to wear a mask.

It could all just be part of a ruse to get an insanity plea in.
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I found out that James Holmes is same age as mine and born in 1987, also he completed bachelor of science degree.

Wow, what's waste of life and money for college, and his life will be permanently ruined because he will probably sentence to death penalty or life in prison. If he used Pell Grant or federal loans so what's big waste of taxpayer's money.
Do me a favor and don't use the guy's name in your post. He does not deserve his name to ever be mention again. Just refer to him as "the killer".
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I don't think so! The only thing that made it any different from any other AR15 is the drum magazine and lots of people have them too! If it's modified for massacre then it would have to be fully automatic!
not quite necessarily. I don't think I've ever heard of any massacres caused by lunatics' automatic weapons.... only ATF agents.
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not quite necessarily. I don't think I've ever heard of any massacres caused by lunatics' automatic weapons.... only ATF agents.
I know no shit about guns. Can you explain the difference between semi-automatic and full automatic? Thanks in advance, Jiro.
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My opinion:
I don't feel Holmes was psychotic person, a lunatic (for what he did recently, yes he became a lunatic, but not before this) or some kind of mental disorder, this is just my opinion.

Some things that tell me about why:
He graduated with a Neuroscience degree BS from a recognized university. That program track isn't very easy to get on the honor roll on.
He was funded a MS-PhD scholarship for his program at University of Colorado. (This is probably where he got some of his money to purchase gun stuff if he wasn't working.)

I think that something just snapped in his life to act like that all of the sudden.
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My opinion:
I don't feel Holmes was psychotic person, a lunatic (for what he did recently, yes he became a lunatic, but not before this) or some kind of mental disorder, this is just my opinion.

Some things that tell me about why:
He graduated with a Neuroscience degree BS from a recognized university. That program track isn't very easy to get on the honor roll on.
He was funded a MS-PhD scholarship for his program at University of Colorado. (This is probably where he got some of his money to purchase gun stuff if he wasn't working.)

I think that something just snapped in his life to act like that all of the sudden.
Yeah, he's too smart. I guess he was pissed off by something like a break-up with a girlfriend. Love is usually one of the motives.
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I saw an FBI profiler on the news saying that a jury may determine from his courtroom behavior, that he was faking being crazy.
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I know no shit about guns. Can you explain the difference between semi-automatic and full automatic? Thanks in advance, Jiro.
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Sorry if this has been asked but since this "killer" had no problem killing and wounding innocent people, WHY did he tell the police his apartment was booby trapped? Did he all of a sudden feel "guilty"? If the police didn't know, from what I have read, they would have entered thru the front door, then all hell would have broke loose. Correct me if I am wrong.
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