kokonut

I agree. It's a fine line for them to walk and speak their minds.

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Roca

I think that what Morgan Freeman is pointing out is that Pres. Obama's black
ancestors didn't arrive in the US during the slave era (pre-1865, therefore,he's not quite "one of us".

This is some of AAs dirty laundry that we usually don't talk about: why are the children of African and West Indian immigrants surpassing other AAs.

PBS's series,Black Journal,did a program way back in the 70's or 80's comparing the median family incomes of different ethnicities. The national average was given a value of 100%.

On said program,it was revealed that Irish American families scored a value of 104% of the national median income,West Indian descendants,80-something %,other AAs and NAs were at 60-62%,and Jews were at 180%.

This probably has something to do with attitude. I believe that when the grandchildren went back to visit Africa or the West Indies,they saw blacks
and mulattos doing all sorts of jobs and likely didn't grow up with the attitude that "I can't do this because I'm black!"

I'm an AA and NA history buff.

Frisky Feline

Yes you were reading my mind.

am I 100 % deaf?

Lau2046

I don't think deafness is the same thing as what Freeman was talking about. I've had hearing people (teachers of audiology) tell me I'm not deaf, I've had deaf teachers telling me that I am - I'm sure people on this board would probably give conflicting answers too. Freeman is talking about Obama's ethnicity which deafness is not....

AlleyCat

We were discussing the 100% vs. non-100%. Not that deafness is a key component of this thread.

If anything -- you've had people tell you that you are deaf, and others that tell you that you are not. (Frankly, that's not up to them to tell you what you perceive you are.) But nobody should be saying whether Obama is "black enough" or not. If he feels he's black, let him feel that way.

Frisky Feline

I agree what Alleycat just said. no one should tell others what they think of them who they should be. pfft.

metalangel

Morgan Freeman is just hoping that his numerous roles as the President in movies will eventually cause enough people to think he is President, and elect him. :p

Lau2046

That reminds of Michael Richards (who wasn't Jewish) of the cast of Seinfield trying to explain himself out of a racist rant by saying he "felt Jewish." It just makes no sense to "feel" this or that - you are or your not. I don't see how anyone can dance around it...

AlleyCat

The problem with your response is that Michael Richards wasn't Jewish. Obama is indeed black. If he wants to call himself the first black president of the US, it wouldn't be a lie. 100% black or not.

Reba

If any person (not just President Obama) has one parent white, and one parent black, what makes that person black instead of white? That would seem to me a 50/50 mix, which would be equally both black and white.

What about people who are 50/50 white/Asian or black/Asian?

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Frisky Feline

how about calling a mutt person.

Yea I am a mutt chica!

saywhatkid

Was Adam white? Was Eve? Are you saying Obama is a liar for saying he is black?

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Reba

What?! I never said one thing about Obama being a liar for saying he is black. Not one word. Where are on earth did you get that from?

No, I don't believe Obama is a liar for saying that he is black.

I don't know how Adam and Eve got into the question. Since neither of them had parents they don't fit into my question. However, since you brought it up, I believe that both Adam and Eve had genes that would produce a variety of combinations in their descendants. It doesn't really matter what their "color" appeared to be on the outside.

rockin'robin

Reba never said Obuma was/is a Lier for saying he was "Black"....So, in fact, he is not 100% Black...Goes to show that nobody is what they say they are. Does that make all of us "Liers"?...Flame much?

Steinhauer

There you go making stuff up again

I am sure Jiro will be along shortly to defend your "honor" since he admitted he supports liars.

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saywhatkid

I asked; nothing implied. Don't get your panties in a bunch. Read the post again:

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saywhatkid

I asked; nothing implied. Don't get your panties in a bunch. Read the post again:

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saywhatkid

I asked; nothing implied. Don't get your panties in a bunch. Read the post again: I don't need anyone to defend my honor. That is strictly a Conservative trait, as evidenced by the posts above.

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Frisky Feline

saywhatkid

Waiting for the Conservatives to circle the wagons again. Zzzzzzzzz.......

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Jiro

holy shit! a man talking to a cat!

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rockin'robin

Hey, it was pretty obvious what you were "trying to get down there"...or in other words..."what are you trying to find down there"?....Reba never implied that Obuma was a Lier....so why even ask the question?....So don't get ur underoos in a wad either.

saywhatkid

Then you are guilty of assuming. Why not you answer it; is Obama a liar for saying he is black? Nobody wants to answer; they just want to play "Gang up on SWK" to avoid replying. Got it. Show your team spirit, not your individuality.

BTW, it is liar, not lier. Place the grammar teacher's tip in the jar on the desk.

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kokonut

Commentary: Morgan Freeman

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kokonut

Would Obama be a liar for saying he's white? Pretty obvious.

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authentic

Two words: Crab Theory

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saywhatkid

Would it matter? That is what I keep thinking.

When he was elected by popular vote, I didn't think "Wow, we elected a black man as President!" I thought, "Thank God we didn't vote Palin into the VP office!"
True story.

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Frisky Feline

koko, so does that mean you wish that obama is 100 percents as a first president that fullfill your life purpose?

i know koko put my username on his ignore list. if someone is happy to quote my post. help yourself.

saywhatkid

OK. Also, I find it humorous that a bunch of white Conservatives are trying to decide whether Morgan or Barack is a better judge of one's perceived blackness. Have at it kiddies!

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kokonut

What?

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