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Unread 07-01-2012, 04:01 PM   #31 (permalink)
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Completely fair. It is about women's health. Women's health is very important and Women should be ensured that they have Doctor's who are qualified and accountable to the State. Anything less is absolutely unfair to women.
When we have stringiest regulation for abortion to protect the women's health and most abortion clinics do meet the stringiest regulation. When Mississippi added new law that effectively kill the last one abortion clinic.

I have disagree with you about new Mississippi law because they are nothing, except for kill the abortion clinic.
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Unread 07-01-2012, 04:06 PM   #32 (permalink)
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Oh really? Do you have the statistics on this clinic? Are you familiar with their practices, methods and compliance? That might be interesting to know.
The legal abortion is far safe and the fatal from abortion is rare, especially complication, it isn't same as illegal abortion that used with hanger.

All surgeries have risk and complication, based on your logic, we should ban on CI or gastric bypass because all of them have complication, including fatal.
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See statistic about abortion - Facts About Abortion: U.S. Abortion Statistics

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In 2007, 6 women died as a result of complications from known legal induced abortion (CDC).
Like I said, fatal from abortion is rare due to complication.
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The legal abortion is far safe and the fatal from abortion is rare, especially complication, it isn't same as illegal abortion that used with hanger.

All surgeries have risk and complication, based on your logic, we should ban on CI or gastric bypass because all of them have complication, including fatal.
This does not answer my question. Not even remotely. And the second part sounds like the argument of a child.
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When we have stringiest regulation for abortion to protect the women's health and most abortion clinics do meet the stringiest regulation. When Mississippi added new law that effectively kill the last one abortion clinic.

I have disagree with you about new Mississippi law because they are nothing, except for kill the abortion clinic.
I guess I hold women's health in higher regard than you. *shrug* So sad.
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This does not answer my question. Not even remotely. And the second part sounds like the argument of a child.
It seems like you are playing game with me.

My answer to your question is still stand, it is all related to your question.
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It seems like you are playing game with me.

My answer to your question is still stand, it is all related to your question.
Perhaps you should read the question more carefully.
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I guess I hold women's health in higher regard than you. *shrug* So sad.
It means you want end the abortion for most women.

It doesn't protect women's health, IMO.
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]It means you want end the abortion for most women.
Yes I do, but that is totally irrelevant to this topic

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It doesn't protect women's health, IMO.
You are welcome to your opinion.
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Perhaps you should read the question more carefully.
We don't have statistic for this clinic but I just give you from general statistic over all US.

If you are in doubt, it means the health department in Mississippi could shut the abortion clinic down in long time ago for safety violations.
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Yes I do, but that is totally irrelevant to this topic

You are welcome to your opinion.
I support completely safe abortion for women's needs, like we have stringiest regulation now, even it is much better than in 70's and 80's.

I prefer abortion clinic to be located in hospital instead of freestanding.
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We don't have statistic for this clinic but I just give you from general statistic over all US.

If you are in doubt, it means the health department in Mississippi could shut the abortion clinic down in long time ago for safety violations.
I didn't ask for general statistics, did I? Not only that, I asked for more than just statistics, didn't I?
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I support completely safe abortion for women's needs, like we have stringiest regulation now, even it is much better than in 70's and 80's.

I prefer abortion clinic to be located in hospital instead of freestanding.
I didn't ask ya. And what the hell is "stringiest" That just sounds gross.
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Oh really? Do you have the statistics on this clinic? Are you familiar with their practices, methods and compliance? That might be interesting to know.
The article didn't mention women's deaths at all. Did it?
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I didn't ask for general statistics, did I? Not only that, I asked for more than just statistics, didn't I?
then I guess that you will never get accurate answer because we don't have statistic for this abortion clinic (in Mississippi).
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I didn't ask ya. And what the hell is "stringiest" That just sounds gross.
I means strictest, more tighten.
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The article didn't mention women's deaths at all. Did it?
Again, that doesn't answer my question. You said...

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then I guess that you will never get accurate answer because we don't have statistic for this abortion clinic (in Mississippi).
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I means strictest, more tighten.
If they are making the laws more strict, obviously we don't have the "strictest" laws now... Otherwise they could not make them more strict

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If they are making the laws more strict, obviously we don't have the "strictest" laws now... Otherwise they could not make them more strict
The law about abortion procedure is already strictest now and we don't need any more unnecessarily regulation, especially like one in Mississippi to kill the abortion clinic.
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The law about abortion procedure is already strictest now and we don't need any more unnecessarily regulation, especially like one in Mississippi to kill the abortion clinic.
But, the law isn't written to kill the clinic. *shrug* It is written to ensure that women's health is a priority and that Doctor's are held accountable. I am sure glad Mississippi takes women's health so seriously. I hate that offers want to leave women in danger.
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But, the law isn't written to kill the clinic. *shrug* It is written to ensure that women's health is a priority and that Doctor's are held accountable. I am sure glad Mississippi takes women's health so seriously. I hate that offers want to leave women in danger.
I don't agree with you about the law that written isn't kill the abortion clinic so they did because of new unnecessary regulation, also majority of state legislatures are pro-life too, other excuse reason to kill the abortion clinic.

The existing law about abortion is protect women's health completely so I don't consider Mississippi's new law to protect the women's health because it is already strictest under existing regulation.

It is just like other state who want pass the unnecessary regulation to kill the gun stores.
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I don't agree with you about the law that written isn't kill the abortion clinic so they did because of new unnecessary regulation, also majority of state legislatures are pro-life too, other excuse reason to kill the abortion clinic.

The existing law about abortion is protect women's health completely so I don't consider Mississippi's new law to protect the women's health because it is already strictest under existing regulation.

It is just like other state who want pass the unnecessary regulation to kill the gun stores.
oh well
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Jackson Women's Health Organization, Jackson Mississippi Abortion Clinic

That clinic is state-licensed. Isn't that enough?
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Jackson Women's Health Organization, Jackson Mississippi Abortion Clinic

That clinic is state-licensed. Isn't that enough?
No.
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Update: Mississippi Abortion Law Temporarily Blocked By Federal Judge

That's great and it will give abortion clinic more time to find way to meet the new regulation.
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Ah, judicial activism that risks women's health....isn't that nice
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Ah, judicial activism that risks women's health....isn't that nice
Just other pro-life excuse.
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Just other pro-life excuse.
How is that comment an excuse? What exactly is it excusing?
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How is that comment an excuse? What exactly is it excusing?
because you said new Mississippi law to protect the women's health.

It didn't but it is part of pro-life excuse that why they want to kill the abortion clinic.
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