Obamacare watch...Supreme Court Decision - Page 6

**Jiro** · 06-30-2012, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by rolling7

Nice try to point the blame in another direction, which you are now famous for.

Nope, karma is the American people waking up to realize they should have had insurance coverage when they were spending money on cell phones, movies, fast food, having kids they could not insure nor feed, etc. Yes, karma has caught up with these folks.

nice try to point the blame on American people. why are you protecting private insurances? you've been on government system since Day 1.

You must be related to "Keep Your Government Hands Off Medicare!" lady.

rolling7 · 06-30-2012, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Jiro

nice try to point the blame on American people. why are you protecting private insurances? you've been on government system since Day 1.

You must be related to "Keep Your Government Hands Off Medicare!" lady.

Nope, I'm related to the guy who pushes personal responsibility and accountablity. These are the two things that you are protecting many, many people from being responsible for.

You must be realated to the "Why work, when I can get everything free from the government" guy.

**Foxrac** · 06-30-2012, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Jiro

nice try to point the blame on American people. why are you protecting private insurances? you've been on government system since Day 1.

You must be related to "Keep Your Government Hands Off Medicare!" lady.

He used to work at USPS before so USPS is part of government.

I think it is time for rolling7 to give up his government pension and he can whine about everything what he wants, even full of bullshit stories.

**TXgolfer** · 06-30-2012, 08:03 PM

Yall realize Rolling's pension was part of his compensation, not a handout, right?

**Reba** · 06-30-2012, 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Foxrac

He used to work at USPS before so USPS is part of government.

I think it is time for rolling7 to give up his government pension and he can whine about everything what he wants, even full of bullshit stories.

There is no reason why rolling7 should give up a retirement pension that was earned.

rolling7 · 06-30-2012, 08:25 PM

Thank you to my defenders

There are members on AD that refuse to give credit to those folks whom worked long and hard for every penny these workers earn, all on top of paying a fair share+ of taxes. My pension is totally earn and my savings are the result of saving and investing wisely.

On the other hand there are AD members whom will defend to the grave the entitlement programs to those who invested not a penny and not a sweat for these benefits.

**Foxrac** · 06-30-2012, 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by TXgolfer

Yall realize Rolling's pension was part of his compensation, not a handout, right?

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Originally Posted by Reba

There is no reason why rolling7 should give up a retirement pension that was earned.

USPS is part of government and there is no point for him to be anti-government.

If you don't like government so don't work for government or collect the pension from government.

That's part of my opinion.

**Foxrac** · 06-30-2012, 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by rolling7

Thank you to my defenders

There are members on AD that refuse to give credit to those folks whom worked long and hard for every penny these workers earn, all on top of paying a fair share+ of taxes. My pension is totally earn and my savings are the result of saving and investing wisely.

On the other hand there are AD members whom will defend to the grave the entitlement programs to those who invested not a penny and not a sweat for these benefits.

Well, my opinion is still stands.

If you hate our government so time for you to give up the pension that you earned for work at USPS.

If you get pension from private companies so none of my business.

**Foxrac** · 06-30-2012, 08:44 PM

Thanks to my best friend.

**Reba** · 06-30-2012, 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Foxrac

USPS is part of government and there is no point for him to be anti-government.

If you don't like government so don't work for government or collect the pension from government.

That's part of my opinion.

People who have worked for the government have more insight into how it operates behind the scenes.

Also, people who work for the government are still taxpayers and citizens, so they have a right to speak up about how it is run and who runs it.

**Foxrac** · 06-30-2012, 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Reba

People who have worked for the government have more insight into how it operates behind the scenes.

Also, people who work for the government are still taxpayers and citizens, so they have a right to speak up about how it is run and who runs it.

The government pension is partially funded from taxpayers so we have rights to speak out.

My point - based on my opinion, if you don't like government so don't work for government, that it.

rolling7 · 06-30-2012, 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Foxrac

The government pension is partially funded from taxpayers so we have rights to speak out.

My point - based on my opinion, if you don't like government so don't work for government, that it.

In 1974 the government no longer supported the USPS. As a master of fact, after that date the USPS supported the government. So your opinion is only part correct because I was not working for a government supported agency (i.e. FBI, CIA, DOJ, FAA, etc.).

**Foxrac** · 06-30-2012, 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by rolling7

In 1974 the government no longer supported the USPS. As a master of fact, after that date the USPS supported the government. So your opinion is only part correct because I was not working for a government supported agency (i.e. FBI, CIA, DOJ, FAA, etc.).

Oh I see... What are we doing if USPS is failing?

I think that USPS couldn't change on own without approval from the congress like if they want increase the stamp to 50 cents or close more branches.

**Reba** · 06-30-2012, 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Foxrac

The government pension is partially funded from taxpayers so we have rights to speak out.

Those receiving the pensions are also taxpayers, so they too have the right to speak out.

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My point - based on my opinion, if you don't like government so don't work for government, that it.

It's called the First Amendment.

No one has a perfect employer. Lots of people work at jobs they don't "like." Using your reasoning, no one would be working.

**TXgolfer** · 06-30-2012, 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Reba

Those receiving the pensions are also taxpayers, so they too have the right to speak out.

It's called the First Amendment.

No one has a perfect employer. Lots of people work at jobs they don't "like." Using your reasoning, no one would be working.

Pretty sure your second point is going to be lost on the audience.

**Foxrac** · 06-30-2012, 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Reba

Those receiving the pensions are also taxpayers, so they too have the right to speak out.

It's called the First Amendment.

No one has a perfect employer. Lots of people work at jobs they don't "like." Using your reasoning, no one would be working.

I think that I just gave a bad example because rolling7 said USPS isn't funded by federal, even the pension is self funded under USPS.

Are you sure? I think plenty of people that I met and most of them love their job.

I found out that it is hypocrite for people who hate government that still work for government.

**TXgolfer** · 06-30-2012, 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Foxrac

I found out that it is hypocrite for people who hate government that still work for government.

You "found out"? From who, because that is ridiculous.

**Foxrac** · 06-30-2012, 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by TXgolfer

You "found out"? From who, because that is ridiculous.

from who? some people in anywhere.

**TXgolfer** · 07-01-2012, 12:41 AM

Interesting....

**Jiro** · 07-01-2012, 12:59 AM

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Originally Posted by rolling7

Nope, I'm related to the guy who pushes personal responsibility and accountablity. These are the two things that you are protecting many, many people from being responsible for.

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Originally Posted by rolling7

You must be realated to the "Why work, when I can get everything free from the government" guy.

do you see my avatar? ever wonder why? I work and I've never applied for any form of welfare system.

**Jiro** · 07-01-2012, 01:00 AM

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Originally Posted by TXgolfer

Yall realize Rolling's pension was part of his compensation, not a handout, right?

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Originally Posted by Reba

People who have worked for the government have more insight into how it operates behind the scenes.

Also, people who work for the government are still taxpayers and citizens, so they have a right to speak up about how it is run and who runs it.

there's an expression that goes like this - "biting the hand that feeds you"

**Reba** · 07-01-2012, 01:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Foxrac

I think that I just gave a bad example because rolling7 said USPS isn't funded by federal, even the pension is self funded under USPS.

Are you sure? I think plenty of people that I met and most of them love their job.

I didn't say that everyone hates their jobs. Some people like or even love their jobs. Some don't. Some have good days and bad.

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I found out that it is hypocrite for people who hate government that still work for government.

A hypocrite is a person who says one thing and does another. If someone said, "I hate the Federal government and its control of my life" and then campaigned for, sent money to, and voted for candidates that wanted to increase Federal control on private lives, that would be hypocritical.

Rolling7 didn't work for the Obama administration, so I see no reason why he can't criticize the current leaders.

**Jiro** · 07-01-2012, 01:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Reba

I didn't say that everyone hates their jobs. Some people like or even love their jobs. Some don't. Some have good days and bad.

A hypocrite is a person who says one thing and does another. If someone said, "I hate the Federal government and its control of my life" and then campaigned for, sent money to, and voted for candidates that wanted to increase Federal control on private lives, that would be hypocritical.

Rolling7 didn't work for the Obama administration, so I see no reason why he can't criticize the current leaders.

rolling has strong anti-government view.

**Reba** · 07-01-2012, 01:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Jiro

there's an expression that goes like this - "biting the hand that feeds you"

That would be true if Obama simply gave rolling7 a gift of money, as in a charitable donation. However, rolling7 did not get any gifts from Obama or anyone in his administration, so he's not obligated to overlook their flaws.

I don't always agree with everything rolling7 posts, or the way he posts it, but he certainly has the right to post criticisms of the American Federal government. As does every American.

Don't forget--we don't work for the President--he works for us.

**Jiro** · 07-01-2012, 01:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Reba

That would be true if Obama simply gave rolling7 a gift of money, as in a charitable donation. However, rolling7 did not get any gifts from Obama or anyone in his administration, so he's not obligated to overlook their flaws.

I don't always agree with everything rolling7 posts, or the way he posts it, but he certainly has the right to post criticisms of the American Federal government. As does every American.

Don't forget--we don't work for the President--he works for us.

when a person has a strong anti-government bitterness and yet work for government, that's biting the hand that feeds you.

**Reba** · 07-01-2012, 01:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Jiro

when a person has a strong anti-government bitterness and yet work for government, that's biting the hand that feeds you.

I thought rolling7 was retired.

**Jiro** · 07-01-2012, 01:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Reba

I thought rolling7 was retired.

yes I'm referring to while he was employed. I would never work for an organization whom I would have a strong criticism and disagreement on daily basis for years.

**Reba** · 07-01-2012, 01:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Jiro

yes I'm referring to while he was employed. I would never work for an organization whom I would have a strong criticism and disagreement on daily basis for years.

I'll have to let rolling7 speak for himself. I don't recall him posting that he had strong disagreements with USPS the whole time that he worked there. I thought most of his disagreement was with the Obama administration, not his boss.

**TXgolfer** · 07-01-2012, 01:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Jiro

because it isn't.

Chief Justice Roberts is only saying that Congress can but Obama won't do it. It is you and Conservative pundits who are frothing and hyperventilating over certain keyword like "tax" that didn't even happen.

In case you forgot, you are already paying for Medicaid/Medicare/Social Security taxes automatically withdrawn from your income.

So, there is no fine if you chose not to get insurance??? Interesting

**Jiro** · 07-01-2012, 01:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Reba

I'll have to let rolling7 speak for himself. I don't recall him posting that he had strong disagreements with USPS the whole time that he worked there. I thought most of his disagreement was with the Obama administration, not his boss.

government. not USPS or Obama Administration. just government.

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rolling7 Banned Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 3,340	Thank you to my defenders There are members on AD that refuse to give credit to those folks whom worked long and hard for every penny these workers earn, all on top of paying a fair share+ of taxes. My pension is totally earn and my savings are the result of saving and investing wisely. On the other hand there are AD members whom will defend to the grave the entitlement programs to those who invested not a penny and not a sweat for these benefits.