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Unread 07-02-2012, 12:31 PM   #301 (permalink)
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So, you agree with Mitt's guy then?
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Unread 07-02-2012, 12:35 PM   #302 (permalink)
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Ah, so you think the mandate is unconstitutional then...
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Unread 07-02-2012, 12:40 PM   #303 (permalink)
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Ah, so you think the mandate is unconstitutional then...
I have mixed feeling on individual mandate.

I'm just happy that healthcare reform is constitutional instead of entire of law strike down.
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Unread 07-02-2012, 12:46 PM   #304 (permalink)
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I have mixed feeling on individual mandate.

I'm just happy that healthcare reform is constitutional instead of entire of law strike down.
But, it's not constitutional if it is not a tax.

Also it is going back to court anyway.... The court ruled it is only constitutional as a tax. Thing is, taxes can only be assessed through tax bills and tax bills must originate in the House. Therefore this bill was passed illegally. And then there is the whole "type of tax" issue.
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Unread 07-02-2012, 12:48 PM   #305 (permalink)
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But, it's not constitutional if it is not a tax.

Also it is going back to court anyway.... The court ruled it is only constitutional as a tax. Thing is, taxes can only be assessed through tax bills and tax bills must originate in the House. Therefore this bill was passed illegally. And then there is the whole "type of tax" issue.
Oh really, the health reform bill will go back to court again after final ruling from US Supreme Court?
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Unread 07-02-2012, 12:52 PM   #306 (permalink)
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Oh really, the health reform bill will go back to court again after final ruling from US Supreme Court?
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For me, no idea because I don't see any articles.
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Unread 07-02-2012, 01:02 PM   #308 (permalink)
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For me, no idea because I don't see any articles.
Some read articles.....some involve themselves in the process.... sigh
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Some read articles.....some involve themselves in the process.... sigh
I don't see any official article about individual mandate to be re-challenge because it didn't pass in the house at first place.

It is unforgettable for me to know about tax must be come from the house at first place.
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Unread 07-02-2012, 01:07 PM   #310 (permalink)
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I don't see any official article about individual mandate to be re-challenge because it didn't pass in the house at first place.

It is unforgettable for me to know about tax must be come from the house at first place.
Don't believe him because he made it up since he didn't provide a link.
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Unread 07-02-2012, 01:25 PM   #311 (permalink)
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Don't believe him because he made it up since he didn't provide a link.
US Constitution Article 1 Section 7 Clause 1......Pretty basic stuff really.
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Unread 07-02-2012, 01:33 PM   #312 (permalink)
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US Constitution Article 1 Section 7 Clause 1......Pretty basic stuff really.
So by your interpretation of the Constitution. Nothing official...
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So by your interpretation of the Constitution. Nothing official...
What?
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Unread 07-03-2012, 04:38 AM   #314 (permalink)
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You don't know what you are talking about because you don't work for USPS. I DO. Did you watch PMG's video announcements with CC every two months? I DID.
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All you do is talk shit because you got less info from media while I get more info from PMG. Illegal? JFC! As we speak, it's closing small plants this summer and then will not close more plants until elections and X-mas are over since we will be very busy during that time.
Since it's closing small plants this summer... did they get an approval from Congress/committee to do so?

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Congress failed to make a decison by deadline on May 15th, 2012. Did you know?
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No, because you don't work for USPS. I know because I work for USPS. Damnit!
why the hostility? why so angry? calm down.
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Unread 07-03-2012, 04:43 AM   #315 (permalink)
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If you can't answer my question, you **** up again.
is that a feeble attempt to troll me into giving you something?

I find it incredibly impossible that you cannot see that I have already answered your question in Post #208. IMPOSSIBLE.

POST #208.

The answer's RIGHT there. Ready VERY SLOWLY... word by word. If you still cannot find it, then I cannot see how can I help you any further. But to say I "**** up" is definitely an invitation to Ban Land.
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Unread 07-03-2012, 08:55 AM   #316 (permalink)
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Since you, Jiro, are at this moment seeing that CrazyPaul is posting you have not answered his question and you have accused me of slander, I'll give you two examples that I'm not committing slander. There are other examples on AD but I think two is enough.

Example one is my post#97 on this thread where I ask a question to you.
Post#98 was your non-answer. Post #100 was my informing you that you made a non-answer. Post#103 was your way of telling me "too bad". So I'm still waiting for an answer.

Example two is of Grayma on the thread: What Happens if the Supreme Court Stripes Down Obamacare"
Post #147 Grayma ask you a question. Then Post#178 Grayma then ask you why you did not answer. I'm sure she is still waiting for an answer.

So three members are enough, IMO, for your proof. I expect an apology from you for your false accusation but will not hold my breath.
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Since it's closing small plants this summer... did they get an approval from Congress/committee to do so?


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no I did not know.


why the hostility? why so angry? calm down.
I feel sorry for you since you keep asking "and?" which tells me that you have no common sense.
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Unread 07-03-2012, 08:42 PM   #320 (permalink)
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Since you, Jiro, are at this moment seeing that CrazyPaul is posting you have not answered his question and you have accused me of slander, I'll give you two examples that I'm not committing slander. There are other examples on AD but I think two is enough.

Example one is my post#97 on this thread where I ask a question to you.
Post#98 was your non-answer.
why should I answer your ridiculous question over and over and over? you do not get it anyway.

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Post #100 was my informing you that you made a non-answer. Post#103 was your way of telling me "too bad". So I'm still waiting for an answer.
so? that's your response to any answer that you don't like. Just because you asked a question doesn't mean it warrants an answer. Most of your questions are incomprehensible and incoherent.

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Example two is of Grayma on the thread: What Happens if the Supreme Court Stripes Down Obamacare"
Post #147 Grayma ask you a question. Then Post#178 Grayma then ask you why you did not answer. I'm sure she is still waiting for an answer.
Yes I did answer her question. and I also asked a question for clarification in Post #182 which was left unanswered.

and didn't you see my Post #205?

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So three members are enough, IMO, for your proof.
the truth is.... you and grayma are not interested in truth and common sense.... only to see me banned

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I expect an apology from you for your false accusation but will not hold my breath.
I am sorry for you that you harbor such bitterness and hatred for so long from working for government which you hate. I am sorry that you are biting the hand that feeds you.

but I expect an apology from you if my tax money is being used to pay for your retirement benefit.
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I feel sorry for you since you keep asking "and?" which tells me that you have no common sense.
I ask again - since it's closing small plants this summer... did they get an approval from Congress/committee to do so?
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The last two post have me ROFL....not even worth a reply to these senseless post.
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The last two post have me ROFL....not even worth a reply to these senseless post.
I have question for you.

If USPS wants change like closing the processing plant or branches so they need ask the congress for approve.

True or False
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I have question for you.

If USPS wants change like closing the processing plant or branches so they need ask the congress for approve.

True or False
False. USPS has power to buy, lease and SELL a property such as a building so that means it can close the building and sells it. Suppose if it requires an approval from Congress and it says no, then USPS will be going bankrupty. Due to its defict, USPS can ask Congress for help, not approvals and so far the House (almost all Republicans and no Democrats favor it) has passed the bill that will cut our pay by increasing 5% retirement contributions. However I believe that Pres Obama who is a Democrat will veto it if it is passed on Senate floor.

USPS already has future plans including closing over 3,000 stations and about 250 plants.
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I have question for you.

If USPS wants change like closing the processing plant or branches so they need ask the congress for approve.

True or False

Processing plants and branches closing do not require Congress approval.
However, by Constitutional law the USPS must serve each and every legal city.
Only community that are un-incorporated can be served by a post office in an incorporated city. Even a big city like Birmingham could have only one post office for the whole city and still be legally served.
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False. USPS has power to buy, lease and SELL a property such as a building so that means it can close the building and sells it. Suppose if it requires an approval from Congress and it says no, then USPS will be going bankrupty. Due to its defict, USPS can ask Congress for help, not approvals and so far the House (almost all Republicans and no Democrats favor it) has passed the bill that will cut our pay by increasing 5% retirement contributions. However I believe that Pres Obama who is a Democrat will veto it if it is passed on Senate floor.
Only part true. Because the GAO own many of the older buildings from the original USPS. So this means if the USPS wants to close a particular Distribution plant/branch/etc. they give it back to GAO.
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False. USPS has power to buy, lease and SELL a property such as a building so that means it can close the building and sells it. Suppose if it requires an approval from Congress and it says no, then USPS will be going bankrupty. Due to its defict, USPS can ask Congress for help, not approvals and so far the House (almost all Republicans and no Democrats favor it) has passed the bill that will cut our pay by increasing 5% retirement contributions. However I believe that Pres Obama who is a Democrat will veto it if it is passed on Senate floor.

USPS already has future plans including closing over 3,000 stations and about 250 plants.
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Processing plants and branches closing do not require Congress approval.
However, by Constitutional law the USPS must serve each and every legal city.
Only community that are un-incorporated can be served by a post office in an incorporated city. Even a big city like Birmingham could have only one post office for the whole city and still be legally served.
Oh I see, that's interesting.

Sometime, I noticed post office serve in two cities at same time - Birmingham and Center Point, however it does apply to some portion of neighborhood when delivery the mail.
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Only part true. Because the GAO own many of the older buildings from the original USPS. So this means if the USPS wants to close a particular Distribution plant/branch/etc. they give it back to GAO.
Yeah, however most old buildings are in downtown.

Anyway Marina del Rey plant near LA was closed several years ago and sold for about $75 millions to Steven Speilberg, a famous movie producer who later changed his mind and sold it to a realtor for approx. $45 millions.
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The last two post have me ROFL....not even worth a reply to these senseless post.
that's how I feel about your questions. it doesn't even warrant my answer to whatever you asked.

so you might want to think twice before you slander me.
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that's how I feel about your questions. it doesn't even warrant my answer to whatever you asked.

so you might want to think twice before you slander me.
Prove it.

I've given you proof that AD members post that you have not answered their questions to you.
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