Rodney King dead at 47 - Page 3

**saywhatkid** · 06-18-2012, 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Jiro

so you're saying that LAPD is a bunch of criminals?

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Originally Posted by Jiro

that's why criminals are criminals. criminals break the laws. so what about somebody who has been sworn in? does it allow them to break the law because of criminals breaking the law?

correct. and same for attacking civilian and violating civilian's civil right.

I remember St-einstein's version of law enforcement. It had something to do with border guards shooting to kill a Hispanic minor across the border, because he threw rocks.

**Jiro** · 06-18-2012, 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by CrazyPaul

You know what happens if a good cop tells a bad cop to stop?

no idea. you tell me. (skip to 1:00 if you're impatient)

Police Officers Fight Each Other If They Should Beat a Handcuffed Man - YouTube

airportcop · 06-18-2012, 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Foxrac

in Simi Valley? all jurors are white, except for 1 latino and 1 Asian that acquitted all police officers, also declare mistrial on 1 charge.

Re-read the article please. Here it is, "The jury, which had no white members, deadlocked on one charge of excessive force against Powell, and a mistrial was declared on that charge."

airportcop · 06-18-2012, 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by saywhatkid

So you are saying that retaliation is justified? When the guy is beaten to the point he needs 5 hours of surgery to save his life, don't you think that the LEOs had him under enough control to arrest him?

You might want to re-read my post! I said that they (cops) gave him the beating of his life and that they (cops) over did it! ???

Barbaro · 06-18-2012, 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by airportcop

Re-read the article please. Here it is, "The jury, which had no white members, deadlocked on one charge of excessive force against Powell, and a mistrial was declared on that charge."

No, that's not what it said. You have to click the link in order to read it.

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But following a three-month trial in the predominantly white Los Angeles suburb of Simi Valley, three of the officers were acquitted of all charges. The jury, which had no black members, deadlocked on one charge of excessive force against Powell, and a mistrial was declared on that charge.

It was the typo error in op's post.

airportcop · 06-18-2012, 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Jiro

it doesn't matter how it started. what mattered was police conduct in that situation. just because a criminal broke a law doesn't mean it allows police officers to break a law and department policy too. that's why they were found guilty and jailed.

what's up with you and your silly "black" thing?

Well, for one thing it is true! Many blacks do not know how to swim and many are afraid to go in the water. I know because I was in the Navy with many!

As far as wrong about the excessive use of force you are correct but have you ever heard of adrenaline? King did not obey and fought back. He also ran at first. Add all that to the adrenaline and it explains part of why it happened. I'm not saying it was justified or okay.

airportcop · 06-18-2012, 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Jiro

wow. lotsa of contradictions in your post.

Rodney King was fighting back. But police were using excessive force. ok.... so.... many criminals fight back and in many cases, they were under influence. many police officers did not have to resort to beat-down in order to subdue them.

so what would makes a real difference? a proper police conduct and following department policy. none of these officers followed the law and department policy. Rodney King was a scumbag for driving recklessly thru neighborhoods but what police officers did was worse. They're worse than scumbags. They were the reason why LA was a very hostile place to be at that time. And it took Rodney King to change that.

Would you like to point out the contradictions???

airportcop · 06-18-2012, 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Jiro

uh.... Sergeant Koon did use a taser on Rodney King. He shot at his back and that's why Rodney King fell down. since you were not aware of this, then that means you are clearly uninformed about this whole situation..... meaning your view and opinion have been sadly tainted by some buffoons to make you think everything is Rodney King's fault.

no..... a beat-down should never ever happen in the first place or at any time. beat-down is illegal. period.

Give her a break jiro! Not everyone knew that tasers were in use back then. In fact they were not common at all. Only because this was LA did they have the tasers as they are the departments that get them first and even help test them. Just because RR didn't know that doesn't mean that she is misinformed or wrong! I happen to agree with most of what she has said.

**Jiro** · 06-18-2012, 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by airportcop

Well, for one thing it is true! Many blacks do not know how to swim and many are afraid to go in the water. I know because I was in the Navy with many!

As far as wrong about the excessive use of force you are correct but have you ever heard of adrenaline? King did not obey and fought back. He also ran at first. Add all that to the adrenaline and it explains part of why it happened. I'm not saying it was justified or okay.

adrenaline? well gee! that's why we spend a tons of tax money for police training to ensure that police officers don't succumb to tunnel vision caused by adrenaline so that we don't have to pay for hefty legal settlements if our police officers broke the laws.

focus focus focus! why are you focusing on Rodney King? He was a criminal. Criminal is supposed to break the law and all. That is a fact. And now it's a police officer's job to catch him and arrest him..... in a lawful manner and as according to department policy. Why aren't you focusing on police officers' illegal actions?

airportcop · 06-18-2012, 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by KristinaB

What I want to know is this: Why did they have to bring back all the info from the beating in the new regarding the drowning death. Yes, his past might be what made him and yes, it is how some people will remember him, but I think it is just a bad way of reporting the man's death.

And, while there may have been logical reasons for him to be pulled over, there was absolutely no reason to have the living daylights beaten and kicked out of him. That was just too much and the officers went too far. That's my opinion.

It's because sensationalism sells unfortunately! That is why our MM sucks so badly and doesn't always report the truth. Usually only part of the truth!

Mimsy · 06-18-2012, 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by rockin'robin

Disagree...he was not fighting back because the cops went too far....he was fighting back to avoid being arrested....he was drunk and disorderly...

I wasn't born when this happened, but I remember talking about it in school. They said Mr. King was high on crack and that crack makes a person wild and strong. I think that's worse than just being drunk.

From the video it looks like the cops over reacted very badly, but I think in the beginning of the arrest King was giving them a VERY hard time.

airportcop · 06-18-2012, 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Jiro

adrenaline? well gee! that's why we spend a tons of tax money for police training to ensure that police officers don't succumb to tunnel vision caused by adrenaline so that we don't have to pay for hefty legal settlements if our police officers broke the laws.

focus focus focus! why are you focusing on Rodney King? He was a criminal. Criminal is supposed to break the law and all. That is a fact. And now it's a police officer's job to catch him and arrest him..... in a lawful manner and as according to department policy. Why aren't you focusing on police officers' illegal actions?

I'm not focusing on anyone's actions! That would be you! No one is supposed to break the law!

Barbaro · 06-18-2012, 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Foxrac

There is confirmation to your post.
Swimming ability gap between whites and minorities remains | kare11.com
Minorities Drowning Risk: Safety Groups Urge Swimming Lessons For Hispanic And Black Communities

Thought you'd want to read this two-year-old article and comments.
BBC News - Why don't black Americans swim?

US swimming stats

USA Swimming/University of Memphis study found ethnic differences

68.9% of African-American children with no or low ability to swim
57.9% of Hispanic children
41.8% of white children

Study quizzed 2,000 children and parents in six US cities
CDC recorded 3,443 fatal accidental drownings in 2007
Drowning is second greatest cause of accidental death in children under 14
African-American children aged 5 to 14 3.1 times more likely to drown

airportcop · 06-18-2012, 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Barbaro

No, that's not what it said. You have to click the link in order to read it.

It was the typo error in op's post.

Okay, my bad! Guess I was wrong on that one! Never trust the media! Always check your sources! My apologies to the people of AD! There should have been a jury of his peers! At least half black!

**Foxrac** · 06-18-2012, 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by airportcop

Okay, my bad! Guess I was wrong on that one! Never trust the media! Always check your sources! My apologies to the people of AD! There should have been a jury of his peers! At least half black!

Ok, I accepted your apologies.

Yup, some sources are misinformed.

**Bottesini** · 06-18-2012, 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Mimsy

I wasn't born when this happened, but I remember talking about it in school. They said Mr. King was high on crack and that crack makes a person wild and strong. I think that's worse than just being drunk.

From the video it looks like the cops over reacted very badly, but I think in the beginning of the arrest King was giving them a VERY hard time.

That is not correct. He was drunk. The only drug in his system was a small amount of marijuana.

Steinhauer · 06-18-2012, 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Jiro

so you're saying that LAPD is a bunch of criminals?

The officials that broke the law were, yes. The law applies to everyone.
Even criminals trying to escape arrest by driving the wrong way on an expressway.

**Jiro** · 06-18-2012, 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by airportcop

Give her a break jiro! Not everyone knew that tasers were in use back then. In fact they were not common at all. Only because this was LA did they have the tasers as they are the departments that get them first and even help test them. Just because RR didn't know that doesn't mean that she is misinformed or wrong! I happen to agree with most of what she has said.

Don't you think it's important to correct a wrong information?

Look at her posts. Her opinion was based on what she knew and she held onto that flawed belief based on wrong information for decades.

Since she didn't know of this important fact, chance is she didn't know a bunch of other important facts too that would have changed her view.

**Jiro** · 06-18-2012, 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by airportcop

I'm not focusing on anyone's actions! That would be you! No one is supposed to break the law!

good. then focus on officers, not Rodney King.

**Jiro** · 06-18-2012, 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Steinhauer

The officials that broke the law were, yes. The law applies to everyone.

good. then why are you being so defensive of police officers?

Steinhauer · 06-18-2012, 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Jiro

good. then focus on officers, not Rodney King.

Rodney King was the one breaking the law. He was also the one who attacked a female officer trying to arrest him. He attacked two other officers as well.

The officers that were attempting to detain him let their emotions get the better of them.

All could have been avoided if Rodney King had not been violent. Rodney King instigated the entire beat down.

**Jiro** · 06-18-2012, 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Steinhauer

Rodney King was the one breaking the law. He was also the one who attacked a female officer trying to arrest him. He attacked two other officers as well.

so? it's part of their job. it's to be expected and it's also expected that police officers be able to neutralize most situations with the best of their ability in a lawful manner and as according to department policy. Would you agree that if a police officer cannot do what the job entails, then they're in a wrong job?

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Originally Posted by Steinhauer

The officers that were attempting to detain him let their emotions get the better of them.

so what should we do about this when police officers violate civilian's civil rights despite of the fact that hundreds of thousands dollars of taxpayers' money go into police trainings to ensure that they don't succumb to their emotions and the fact that we have department policy and laws that specifically prohibit this kind of action?

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Originally Posted by Steinhauer

All could have been avoided if Rodney King had not been violent. Rodney King instigated the entire beat down.

Would you agree this statement - "All could have been avoided if police officers had not been violent and let their emotions get the better of them"?

Steinhauer · 06-18-2012, 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Jiro

adrenaline? well gee! that's why we spend a tons of tax money for police training to ensure that police officers don't succumb to tunnel vision caused by adrenaline so that we don't have to pay for hefty legal settlements if our police officers broke the laws.

focus focus focus! why are you focusing on Rodney King? He was a criminal. Criminal is supposed to break the law and all. That is a fact. And now it's a police officer's job to catch him and arrest him..... in a lawful manner and as according to department policy. Why aren't you focusing on police officers' illegal actions?

Re-read the thread title

**Jiro** · 06-18-2012, 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Steinhauer

Re-read the thread title

um.... this thread is about Rodney King who died at age 47 in his own swimming pool.... not police beatdown... which was what we were talking about.

pretty much shows how you have a habit of picking and choosing anything out of context for your misguided agenda.

kokonut · 06-18-2012, 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Steinhauer

Re-read the thread title

"Rodney King dead at 47"

That was pretty easy.

Bebonang · 06-18-2012, 11:31 PM

Show respect to the deceased Rodney King, not about his past. Forget it. It is over and done with it. You all just go over your head focusing on Rodney King's past because of the media and the video. That is enough. RIP Rodney King.

DeafTim · 06-19-2012, 12:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Steinhauer

And they had to Chase him for miles. He was driving the wrong way on a busy expressway.

Why does no one mention this?

I had no idea or maybe I forgot about it

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Originally Posted by Bottesini

That is not correct. He was drunk. The only drug in his system was a small amount of marijuana.

You have better memory than me.

I dont understand why ppl accused King was heavily on drugs that night. Im appalled. I do know being big city cop is one of the most stressful jobs in america..some of them shouldnt be cops b/c they cant handle it.

Rodney King's brother stunned by his unexpected death - latimes.com) good link

Mimsy · 06-19-2012, 01:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Bottesini

That is not correct. He was drunk. The only drug in his system was a small amount of marijuana.

Wow, what a big error to tell us in school. Thanks for telling me. (Just to make sure: we're talking about his arrest and not his condition when he drowned, yes?)

**Jiro** · 06-19-2012, 02:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Mimsy

(Just to make sure: we're talking about his arrest and not his condition when he drowned, yes?)

yes correct.

CrazyPaul · 06-19-2012, 10:18 AM

To tell you the truth, I respect Rodney very much for his honesty. He knew what he talked about. In other words, he admitted that he was ****ed up. Nobody's perfect. He explained that he tried to avoid police because he was on probation. That's understandable but he knew he went too far. Alas, he passed away recently. So I think that we should forget about the past.

Jiro, WTF are you talking about? We know that those bad cops did the wrong thing to him. We didn't say that they were innocent. They deserved what they got from the court. Relax, Jiro, relax.

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Bebonang Registered User Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Manitoulin Island on Lake Huron in Canada Posts: 7,009	Show respect to the deceased Rodney King, not about his past. Forget it. It is over and done with it. You all just go over your head focusing on Rodney King's past because of the media and the video. That is enough. RIP Rodney King. KristinaB and Mimsy like this. __________________ I HAVE BEEN DEAF SINCE BIRTH, AND IT IS STILL AWESOME TO BE . (thumb up) (very happy)

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CrazyPaul Registered User Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 2,980	To tell you the truth, I respect Rodney very much for his honesty. He knew what he talked about. In other words, he admitted that he was ****ed up. Nobody's perfect. He explained that he tried to avoid police because he was on probation. That's understandable but he knew he went too far. Alas, he passed away recently. So I think that we should forget about the past. Jiro, WTF are you talking about? We know that those bad cops did the wrong thing to him. We didn't say that they were innocent. They deserved what they got from the court. Relax, Jiro, relax. rockin'robin likes this.

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