blacksun73

Then, why do they let truckers use as much diesel as they want?

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soutthpaw

Go to Pickens Plan | It's time to stop America's addiction to OPEC oil. T. Boone Pickens has a plan. and you will see that T Boone Pickens has been working for years to get a natural gas refueling structure in place. I believe Pilot truck stops is starting to install CNG pumps. Yes if we could switch the Commercial trucking industry over to CNG then we would basically end our dependence on foreign oil....
another good site is CNGNow

95% of all good delivered in the USA travel at least part of the way to their destination via Truck... They dont use as much as they want they use what they need to do business which is delivering everything you use and buy just about anywhere

airportcop

Wrong! Look it up! It started in the 60's!

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Foxrac

60's standard wasn't stricter as today, just only require all cars to have catalytic converters and ban on lead in fuel, that it.

Edit: You are correct, it started in 60's or 70's, just way before federal did it.

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metalangel

It's also tiny and easy to park in the tiny, tiny spaces you find in Europe.

Anyway, check this thing out:

http://www.evo.co.uk/carreviews/evoc...st_review.html

New Ford Focus, with a 999cc engine. Tiny (physically) little engine.

diehardbiker

There is reason for this, truckers needs torque, Diesel provides twice torque than gasoline. Yes, Gasoline has higher HP, but lower torque which is bad for hauling.

I have diesel PU truck, and for same truck in gas part, I can pull twice the weight than gasoline counterpart. my PU truck has whopping 670 FT lbs torque while gasoline pu truck has only 350 FT lbs torque.

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diehardbiker

I learn a month ago that CNG provides 1/3 of power than Diesel provides so that is huge difference, I don't think 18 wheelers are willing to switch to CNG. For cars, that is whole different story.

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metalangel

Likewise LPG (popular alternative fuel in Europe, most gasoline engined cars can be refitted to accept it) is cheaper than gas but you get less miles per 'gallon' with it. Combined with higher road tax it tends to be used by people who want a gasoline engined car and do megamiles.

airportcop

Yes it all started in the late 50's with the PCV and then in the 60's it got much worse (smog pumps) and in the 70's it started getting so out of control that they lost HP and mileage. It really all went to heck in the 80's with all the electronic crap! It has gotten some better in the 90's & 2000's but the cars could still get way better mileage.

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Foxrac

That's interesting, I'm realized that you are correct after ask my friend about #34.

Yup, the smog pollution was terrible in past, especially LA was full of smoggy in 50's and 60's, also their streetcar service went bankrupted in 1963, and Birmingham had nasty smoggy until 1980's due to many steel and iron factories.

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metalangel

LA had an awesome transit system, it was dismantled in 1963, ten years later, they really really wished they hadn't.

Went to LA, needed a car. Went to SF, we went everywhere by transit.

Same thing happened in the UK after the war... started converting from streetcars to trolley buses, and then went straight to diesel buses which now can't cope with the demand.

soutthpaw

CNG is sold by the GGE, Gasoline Gallon Equivalent. its actually about 3 to 4 physical gallons of CNG but is charged as 1GGE. It the amount of CNG needed to equal the distance that would be traveled by the same vehicle running on Gasoline.