Farrakhan Laments:

rockin'robin · 05-30-2012, 01:33 PM

‘Sad That Mexico Lost California, Arizona, Colorado, New Mexico‘ Through American ’Trickery’; Soon Whites ‘Will Be the Minority’ In the Country They ‘Took’

The day before Memorial Day, Nation of Islam leader Louis Farrakhan lamented that Mexico had lost territory to America due to the Mexican-American War and disparaged American military action around the globe.

The poorly-timed rant took place in San Diego in front of a partially Hispanic audience. The oft controversial minister began by disparaging “White Mexicans” of Spanish decent before announcing that “Africans were in that part of the World [Mexico] maybe before [Mexicans] got there.” The minister lamented that illegal Mexicans are called “aliens” and declared that Americans “ought to be praising the Mexicans because we living on land that was once theirs.”

Farrakhan went on to declare that he was “sad that Mexico lost California, Arizona, New Mexico, and Colorado” after the Mexican-American War “trickery.” This led to the minister generalizing about the American people as “a people that make war and blame the person they makin’ war on and then take your land.”

However, The minister sounded overjoyed that minority births outnumber white births in America, according to recent US Census reports. Given the news, Farrakhan noted that white people will soon “be the minority in their own country that they took from the native people.” He also projected that minorities will soon “become governor of every state.”

Key Farrakhan Quotes:

•“They make you think that the original Mexicans are all white Mexicans. I don’t have anything against a white Mexican, but you’re not the original. What language did the original Mexicans speak? Why are you speaking Spanish? You’re not Spain. You’re not Spanish.”

•“Where did you get that name you have? Sanchez. Ramirez. Look at you. ‘My name is Sergio Sanchez. I’m not one of those black ones.‘ But, Africans were in that part of the world maybe before you got there.”

•“And now you’re an alien. That‘s terrible that Americans can call Mexicans ’aliens.’ You know, we ought to be praising the Mexicans because we living on land that was once theirs, San Diego. Or maybe it should be ‘San Diablo.”

•“Brothers and sisters, it’s sad that Mexico lost California, Arizona, New Mexico, Colorado — all of this was once Mexico. And through trickery, a war was started. You see, this is a people that make war and blame the person they makin’ war on and then take your land. That’s a modus operandi all over the world.”

•“A racist, white supremist must be going crazy, you know, because for the first time, Hispanic, black and Asian babies outnumbered white babies. An ominous sign for the future. Now listen now, in the next 30 or 40 years, white people will be the minority in their own country that they took from the native people.“

•“That must be a terrible feeling, to know that in just a few short years, the majority’s gonna be the minority. And one man, one vote. So, we become governor of every state — ah, we give ‘em a few.”

Farrakhan Laments:

**Sares** · 05-30-2012, 03:00 PM

All this fighting over land that sooner or later they will be under it in place of on it. Will they never understand they cannot take it with them.

Roca · 05-30-2012, 04:24 PM

Message #1

Robin,this is par for the course with what is a black supremicist religious cult.
They believe that blacks were the original people,whites are evil,etc. and etc.

Farrakhan's group,Nation of Islam,is the direct descendant of Elijah Muhammad's organization. The Nation of Islam is not an orthodox Islamic
sect.

I wouldn't give him too much press. Most Muslims (Islamists) and black Americans don't believe his nonsense.

P.S.-I'm an African-American and Native American history buff.

**saywhatkid** · 05-30-2012, 08:42 PM

It never ends, these anti-black threads. Sad that this is where the current events forum has gone, mostly because a white guy shot a black guy, and everyone wants to even the thing up racially. Does everyone get daily news feeds from Aryan Nation?

You want me to post white on black crimes, to even the score back the other way? We could start with wage scales...

kokonut · 05-30-2012, 09:15 PM

No one said Farrakhan committed any crimes. Just his utter stupidity and hate. They're in the same league as the Phelps Klan of Westboro Baptist Church when it comes to a hate group.

As for wage scales:

Women paid significantly less in Obama White House than their male counterparts | Mail Online

**saywhatkid** · 05-30-2012, 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by kokonut

No one said Farrakhan committed any crimes. Just his utter stupidity and hate. They're in the same league as the Phelps Klan of Westboro Baptist Church when it comes to a hate group.

As for wage scales:

Women paid significantly less in Obama White House than their male counterparts | Mail Online

We could have a whole new thread on that (sex discrimination in wages) as well. It goes far beyond the White House, but good use of another Obama bashing link. You cueing them up over there?

Farrakhan is a nut, and everyone knows it. Even posting this topic gives him far too much airtime.

kokonut · 05-30-2012, 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by saywhatkid

We could have a whole new thread on that (sex discrimination in wages) as well. It goes far beyond the White House, but good use of another Obama bashing link. You cueing them up over there?

Farrakhan is a nut, and everyone knows it. Even posting this topic gives him far too much airtime.

I guess it's Obama's own war on women then? Rather ironic considering...

So what if a topic on Farrakhan is posted? You don't have to read a thread you don't like. By the same convention, you don't have to post a comment at all. And you do have the option to ignore it. It's not really that complicated at all.

Barbaro · 05-30-2012, 10:46 PM

Farrahkhan's got his facts mixed up. He just wants to stir it up to grab attention, and put his name all over media. It is unfortunate he has his followers with him.

kokonut · 05-30-2012, 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Barbaro

Farrahkhan's got his facts mixed up. He just wants to stir it up to grab attention, and put his name all over media. It is unfortunate he has his followers with him.

Quite correct. Others just prefer to believe he doesn't exist. Sunshine is the best disinfectant.

**saywhatkid** · 05-31-2012, 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by kokonut

I guess it's Obama's own war on women then? Rather ironic considering...

So what if a topic on Farrakhan is posted? You don't have to read a thread you don't like. By the same convention, you don't have to post a comment at all. And you do have the option to ignore it. It's not really that complicated at all.

I doubt Obama is involved in White House payroll. Just a hunch.

Also, if we are to read these kinds of idiotic rants, why not post some White Supremist rants to balance things out? Certainly you can see how that would be fair.

As for the reminders that I can skip over a topic; nothing requires you to reply to me. If I just skip over all these biased Conservative posts, like you are suggesting, it would be similar to pretending I don't have cockroaches, because I only see a few. We all know what happens if you ignore those few roaches...

CrazyPaul · 05-31-2012, 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by saywhatkid

I doubt Obama is involved in White House payroll. Just a hunch.

Also, if we are to read these kinds of idiotic rants, why not post some White Supremist rants to balance things out? Certainly you can see how that would be fair.

As for the reminders that I can skip over a topic; nothing requires you to reply to me. If I just skip over all these biased Conservative posts, like you are suggesting, it would be similar to pretending I don't have cockroaches, because I only see a few. We all know what happens if you ignore those few roaches...

You call us cockroaches??? LOL

kokonut · 05-31-2012, 09:24 AM

Kind of desperate to do these veiled name callings on ADers.

CrazyPaul · 05-31-2012, 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by kokonut

Kind of desperate to do these veiled name callings on ADers.

It doesn't hurt my feeling. I just LMAO. Actually he used cockraches as an example but I know he meant that we are like cockroaches.

**saywhatkid** · 05-31-2012, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by kokonut

Kind of desperate to do these veiled name callings on ADers.

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Originally Posted by CrazyPaul

It doesn't hurt my feeling. I just LMAO. Actually he used cockraches as an example but I know he meant that we are like cockroaches.

Paranoid much? I was referring to the threads being posted. If nobody debates them or attempts to prove them out of focus, some people might think we all agree with them. Then the bias spreads.

I hope you reported this name calling. However, I have other names for members like you: Conservatives.

airportcop · 05-31-2012, 02:46 PM

It's really great being a conservative! I love it! Frankly I would never be anything else!

I really don't see anything wrong with talking about a racist like Farrakhan other than it gives him too much credit and attention that he doesn't deserve!

Frisky Feline · 05-31-2012, 02:55 PM

Oceanbreeze · 05-31-2012, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by kokonut

Quite correct. Others just prefer to believe he doesn't exist. Sunshine is the best disinfectant.

Ahh, but he doesn't exist (until he opens up his mouth and inserts his foot!

OK, seriously... Farrakhan is only dangerous if people pay attention to him.

**Sares** · 05-31-2012, 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Frisky Feline

Frisky, That is adorable.

kokonut · 05-31-2012, 07:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by saywhatkid

Paranoid much? I was referring to the threads being posted. If nobody debates them or attempts to prove them out of focus, some people might think we all agree with them. Then the bias spreads.

I hope you reported this name calling. However, I have other names for members like you: Conservatives.

Hence, the word "veiled." But nice try.

**saywhatkid** · 05-31-2012, 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by airportcop

It's really great being a conservative! I love it! Frankly I would never be anything else!

I really don't see anything wrong with talking about a racist like Farrakhan other than it gives him too much credit and attention that he doesn't deserve!

Correct. Be yourself. Hard to fake being someone else.

The only issue I have with this thread is the intended bashing of blacks, albeit a veiled attempt. As I said, I would expect equal treatment by posting White Supremist rants.

**saywhatkid** · 05-31-2012, 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by kokonut

Hence, the word "veiled." But nice try.

If the shoe fits...

BTW, if I want to go into name calling mode, I am rarely doing so "veiled." I think I have made that clear. No holds barred.

kokonut · 05-31-2012, 08:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by saywhatkid

If the shoe fits...

BTW, if I want to go into name calling mode, I am rarely doing so "veiled." I think I have made that clear. No holds barred.

Again, nice try.

rolling7 · 05-31-2012, 09:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by saywhatkid

Correct. Be yourself. Hard to fake being someone else.

The only issue I have with this thread is the intended bashing of blacks, albeit a veiled attempt. As I said, I would expect equal treatment by posting White Supremist rants.

As son as one of then does wrong, you wil get your satisfaction.
For now we have to settle for this fool.

deafdyke · 05-31-2012, 10:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rolling7

As son as one of then does wrong, you wil get your satisfaction.
For now we have to settle for this fool.

Well did you know that White Supermatists (meaning Christian Idnetity) represent a MUCH bigger threat terrorism wise then do Muslim terrorists?

kokonut · 05-31-2012, 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by deafdyke

Well did you know that White Supermatists (meaning Christian Idnetity) represent a MUCH bigger threat terrorism wise then do Muslim terrorists?

Hardly. Or did you miss 9/11 already?

rolling7 · 05-31-2012, 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by deafdyke

Well did you know that White Supermatists (meaning Christian Idnetity) represent a MUCH bigger threat terrorism wise then do Muslim terrorists?

They might call themself christians but they ain't.

Could you imagine Islam saying the same about those on the other side: They might call themself muslims but they ain't?

deafdyke · 06-01-2012, 12:02 AM

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Originally Posted by kokonut

Hardly. Or did you miss 9/11 already?

It's true. Domestic terrorisim represents a MUCH MUCH bigger threat to American security then does Muslim terrorism: Domestic Sources of Terrorism
Need I mention Timothy McVeigh and the Unabomber?

deafdyke · 06-01-2012, 12:14 AM

New York Times Article Understates How Overstated Islamic Terrorism Threat Really Is | loonwatch.com
Domestic terror: Who's most dangerous? - CNN

kokonut · 06-01-2012, 12:29 AM

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Originally Posted by deafdyke

It's true. Domestic terrorisim represents a MUCH MUCH bigger threat to American security then does Muslim terrorism: Domestic Sources of Terrorism
Need I mention Timothy McVeigh and the Unabomber?

You didn't say domestic terrorism but White Supremacists as being a bigger threat than Islamic terrorism in the United States. Two very different things while one is an umbrella that covers all kinds of domestic terrorism and the other a more specific group.

Quote:

The Terrorist Trial Report Card (TTRC) tracks and analyzes all federal criminal prosecutions since September 11, 2001 that the Justice Department claims are terror-related. This year’s issue focuses on violent and non-violent crimes, all inspired by jihadist ideas, 578 of the 1,054 total terror-related cases in the Center’s database.

Comprehensive Results of Post 9-11 Terrorism Prosecution
1. Results of Prosecutions
The court system has resolved 431 of the 578 cases. Approximately 87% of all resolved cases have resulted in a conviction. Of 376 convicted, 349 jihadist defendants have received sentences.

578 out 1054 terror-related cases means 55% of the cases were terror-related inspired by jihadist ideas.

Cases like:

Quote:

These cases include Faisal Shahzad, the Times Square Bomber; Najibullah Zazi, who intended to plant explosives in the New York City subway system; Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab, the Christmas Day bomber who attempted to blow up a plane over Detroit; David Coleman Headley, an American born operative with Lashkar-e-Taiba who conspired in the 2008 Mumbai attack and was arrested after also plotting an attack against a Danish newspaper; Major Nidal Hasan, the Fort Hood shooter who killed 13 soldiers; and Carlos Bledsoe, a Muslim convert who wounded one soldier and killed another at an army recruiting station. Four of these six defendants had ties to terror groups operating in Pakistan; two were trained in Yemen. Three of the six had some connection to the U.S. born Al Qaeda operative, Anwar-al-Awlaki. All had received weapons training, identified with jihadist ideology, intended to commit violence and had a connection to America.

http://www.lawandsecurity.org/Portal...ar%20Issue.pdf

**Jiro** · 06-01-2012, 12:47 AM

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Originally Posted by kokonut

Hardly. Or did you miss 9/11 already?

oh you forgot about Oklahoma City Bombing, Atlanta Olympic Bombing, lynching, intimidation, arsons, etc.?

FBI Whistleblower: White Supremacists Are Major Domestic Terrorist Threat

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While terrorism in the U.S has been synonymous with Al Qaeda, for most of this country’s history, domestic white supremacist organizations like the Klu Klux Klan were the greatest terrorism threat. Some believe they still may be today. Today, In Mississippi, the trial begins of Edgar Ray Killen in connection to the murder of three civil rights workers 41 years ago. Michael Schwerner, Andrew Goodman and James Chaney — were shot dead allegedly by the Ku Klux Klan. And in Washington, the Senate is scheduled to vote today on a resolution to apologize for its failure to enact anti-lynching legislation. An estimated 4,700 people — mostly African-Americans — were lynched between 1882 and 1968.

Another whistleblower just took on the FBI’s approach to domestic terrorism. Mike German worked for the agency for more than 15 years and quit last year. On June 5th, he wrote an editorial in the Washington Post advocating that law enforcement pay more attention to organizations that produce so-called lone wolf extremists like Timothy McVeigh who was executed for the 1995 Oklahoma City bombing and Eric Rudolph who planted bombs at the Atlanta Olympics, abortion clinics and a gay nightclub. German writes that "lone extremists pose a challenge for law enforcement because they are difficult to predict. It’s like searching every haystack for a needle. Perhaps we’d have better luck if we paid more attention to the needle factories."

PublicEye.org - The Website of Political Research Associates

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FBI statistics report that 65 percent of America's hate crimes are committed by whites against Blacks. A good portion of such hate crimes are what we call "move-in" violence, when neighborhoods, schools, churches, or jobs are finally integrated 30 years after the 1964 Civil Rights Act. Terror over the visibility of the lesbian and gay movement lies behind the numerous hate crimes against gays and lesbians (and their allies)--the fastest-growing hate crime category in the country.

The Violent World of White Supremacist Gangs - CBS News

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According to the Justice Department, 27,000 gangs with 788,000 members operate in this country. Chief investigative correspondent Armen Keteyian gives us a look at a heavily armed, and very dangerous white supremacist gang.

Posing as a gun-runner an undercover ATF agent opened a door into the rarely-seen world of white supremacists. They're ultra-violent, sophisticated, and less interested in a pure white race, than the color of money.

"Their criminal activity was first, robberies, burglaries, drug sales, firearms, arms trafficking, and then I think their white rhetoric and passing along their message for recruiting was second," the undercover agent said.

...

Particularly in California and Texas, and now spreading across Midwestern states, nearly 5,000 white supremacists are in prison today. Experts estimate that number could be 50,000 nationwide - distinguished by an unceasing appetite for violence.

The undercover ATF agent was concerned about their "constant talk of violent activity," and "their lack of respect for human life as a whole." He added, "for them, I think it was a way of life."

ATF agents working what was known as "Operation Red Swastika" called this gang the "worst of the worst." They cited the use of stun guns - stronger than those used by federal agents, radio scanners, and virtual carbon-copies of SWAT team outfits. Skin and his crew were wearing the SWAT outfits the night they showed up at the undercover agent's apartment, ready to rob what they thought was a drug dealer but was actually an ATF sting.

05-30-2012, 01:33 PM	#1 (permalink)
rockin'robin Registered User Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Jacksonville, Florida Posts: 15,659	Farrakhan Laments: ‘Sad That Mexico Lost California, Arizona, Colorado, New Mexico‘ Through American ’Trickery’; Soon Whites ‘Will Be the Minority’ In the Country They ‘Took’ The day before Memorial Day, Nation of Islam leader Louis Farrakhan lamented that Mexico had lost territory to America due to the Mexican-American War and disparaged American military action around the globe. The poorly-timed rant took place in San Diego in front of a partially Hispanic audience. The oft controversial minister began by disparaging “White Mexicans” of Spanish decent before announcing that “Africans were in that part of the World [Mexico] maybe before [Mexicans] got there.” The minister lamented that illegal Mexicans are called “aliens” and declared that Americans “ought to be praising the Mexicans because we living on land that was once theirs.” Farrakhan went on to declare that he was “sad that Mexico lost California, Arizona, New Mexico, and Colorado” after the Mexican-American War “trickery.” This led to the minister generalizing about the American people as “a people that make war and blame the person they makin’ war on and then take your land.” However, The minister sounded overjoyed that minority births outnumber white births in America, according to recent US Census reports. Given the news, Farrakhan noted that white people will soon “be the minority in their own country that they took from the native people.” He also projected that minorities will soon “become governor of every state.” Key Farrakhan Quotes: •“They make you think that the original Mexicans are all white Mexicans. I don’t have anything against a white Mexican, but you’re not the original. What language did the original Mexicans speak? Why are you speaking Spanish? You’re not Spain. You’re not Spanish.” •“Where did you get that name you have? Sanchez. Ramirez. Look at you. ‘My name is Sergio Sanchez. I’m not one of those black ones.‘ But, Africans were in that part of the world maybe before you got there.” •“And now you’re an alien. That‘s terrible that Americans can call Mexicans ’aliens.’ You know, we ought to be praising the Mexicans because we living on land that was once theirs, San Diego. Or maybe it should be ‘San Diablo.” •“Brothers and sisters, it’s sad that Mexico lost California, Arizona, New Mexico, Colorado — all of this was once Mexico. And through trickery, a war was started. You see, this is a people that make war and blame the person they makin’ war on and then take your land. That’s a modus operandi all over the world.” •“A racist, white supremist must be going crazy, you know, because for the first time, Hispanic, black and Asian babies outnumbered white babies. An ominous sign for the future. Now listen now, in the next 30 or 40 years, white people will be the minority in their own country that they took from the native people.“ •“That must be a terrible feeling, to know that in just a few short years, the majority’s gonna be the minority. And one man, one vote. So, we become governor of every state — ah, we give ‘em a few.” Farrakhan Laments: Oceanbreeze and airportcop like this.

05-30-2012, 03:00 PM	#2 (permalink)
Sares Enjoy the quiet life Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Cheyenne Wyoming Posts: 212	All this fighting over land that sooner or later they will be under it in place of on it. Will they never understand they cannot take it with them. Oceanbreeze, rockin'robin and airportcop like this. __________________ I always enjoy a quiet evening at home.

05-30-2012, 04:24 PM	#3 (permalink)
Roca Registered User Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: VA Posts: 71	Message #1 Robin,this is par for the course with what is a black supremicist religious cult. They believe that blacks were the original people,whites are evil,etc. and etc. Farrakhan's group,Nation of Islam,is the direct descendant of Elijah Muhammad's organization. The Nation of Islam is not an orthodox Islamic sect. I wouldn't give him too much press. Most Muslims (Islamists) and black Americans don't believe his nonsense. P.S.-I'm an African-American and Native American history buff. Oceanbreeze, saywhatkid and airportcop like this.

05-30-2012, 08:42 PM	#4 (permalink)
saywhatkid Emerging from the sun Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: In space Posts: 7,270 Blog Entries: 2	It never ends, these anti-black threads. Sad that this is where the current events forum has gone, mostly because a white guy shot a black guy, and everyone wants to even the thing up racially. Does everyone get daily news feeds from Aryan Nation? You want me to post white on black crimes, to even the score back the other way? We could start with wage scales... deafdyke likes this.

05-30-2012, 09:15 PM	#5 (permalink)
kokonut Registered User Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 15,348	No one said Farrakhan committed any crimes. Just his utter stupidity and hate. They're in the same league as the Phelps Klan of Westboro Baptist Church when it comes to a hate group. As for wage scales: Women paid significantly less in Obama White House than their male counterparts \| Mail Online Oceanbreeze and airportcop like this. __________________ Before AD. After AD. "Restriction on free thought and free speech is the most dangerous of all subversions. It is the one un-American act that could most easily defeat us." -Thurgood Marshall, former Supreme Court Justice "... turns out they are telling the truth."

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05-30-2012, 10:46 PM	#8 (permalink)
Barbaro Registered User Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: dæləs Posts: 1,308	Farrahkhan's got his facts mixed up. He just wants to stir it up to grab attention, and put his name all over media. It is unfortunate he has his followers with him. Oceanbreeze and airportcop like this. __________________ We know what we are but not what we may be. -Author:Shakespeare

05-31-2012, 09:24 AM	#12 (permalink)
kokonut Registered User Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 15,348	Kind of desperate to do these veiled name callings on ADers. __________________ Before AD. After AD. "Restriction on free thought and free speech is the most dangerous of all subversions. It is the one un-American act that could most easily defeat us." -Thurgood Marshall, former Supreme Court Justice "... turns out they are telling the truth."

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airportcop Registered User Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Springfield, MO Posts: 1,088	It's really great being a conservative! I love it! Frankly I would never be anything else! I really don't see anything wrong with talking about a racist like Farrakhan other than it gives him too much credit and attention that he doesn't deserve! rockin'robin likes this. __________________ Romans 12:12 (NIV) Be joyful in hope, patient in affliction, faithful in prayer. Last edited by airportcop; 05-31-2012 at 02:48 PM. Reason: spelling and add to

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