Incompetence to call it as a "Polish death camp"

kokonut · 05-30-2012, 08:50 AM

The smartest president evah!

Obama Nazi death camp gaffe 'hurt all Poles': PM - Yahoo! News

Will he apologize for his gaffe?

Quote:

Poland's Prime Minister Donald Tusk said Wednesday Obama's words had hurt all Poles and he expected more from Washington than just "regret".

"I am convinced that our American friends can today allow themselves a stronger reaction than a simple expression of regret from the White House spokesman -- a reaction more inclined to eliminate once and for all these kinds of errors," Tusk told reporters in Warsaw.

"Today, this is a problem for the reputation of the United States," the prime minister said.

Poland's anti-communist icon Lech Walesa meanwhile termed Obama's error a "golden occasion" to set the historical record straight.

Between 1939 and 1945, nearly six million Polish citizens perished under Nazi Germany's brutal World War II occupation of their country.

More than half of Poland's victims were of Jewish origin and they, in turn, accounted for half of the six million European Jews who perished during the Holocaust.

Many were killed in death camps set up by Nazi Germany in occupied Poland -- including the most notorious, Auschwitz-Birkenau.

Obama Nazi death camp gaffe 'hurt all Poles': PM - Yahoo! News

Don't call it a "Polish death camp"...it was a Nazi death camp.

LoveBlue · 05-30-2012, 09:05 AM

Makes you wonder if he even reads what his speech writers write before he reads it to the public.

kokonut · 05-30-2012, 09:10 AM

I wonder how long it'll be until he apologizes? I wonder what are the odds he'll blame somebody else for his mistake?

Barbaro · 05-30-2012, 09:20 AM

I read it from Daily Mail UK. Well, he has misspoken that angered Poles. I can understand what Poles feel. Very sensitive topic. Obama just was referring to a death camp in Poland. Remember, Poland was under German occupation at the time.

kokonut · 05-30-2012, 09:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barbaro

I read it from Daily Mail UK. Well, he has misspoken that angered Poles. I can understand what Poles feel. Very sensitive topic. Obama just was referring to a death camp in Poland. Remember, Poland was under German occupation at the time.

Understandable but he needs to man up and apologize for his own mistake. The longer he waits the worse the apology will look to be more of a non-apology apology to them. Pretty simple, really.

caz12 · 05-30-2012, 09:29 AM

your president do makes some cock ups

CrazyPaul · 05-30-2012, 09:32 AM

Uh-oh, nobody is perfect. I am sure he will apologize soon because it's his fault that he did not review the speech or if he did, he didn't change it. Everybody makes mistakes. It will go away within 3-5 days.

Barbaro · 05-30-2012, 09:42 AM

We shall see what happen next few days.

I doubt it was Obama himself writing a speech. Presently, presidents have speech writers do it for them.

**Jiro** · 05-30-2012, 09:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kokonut

Understandable but he needs to man up and apologize for his own mistake. The longer he waits the worse the apology will look to be more of a non-apology apology to them. Pretty simple, really.

oh? you want him to apologize to Poles.... and yet you chastised him for bowing too low or apologizing to world.

oh my....

CrazyPaul · 05-30-2012, 09:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barbaro

We shall see what happen next few days.

I doubt it was Obama himself writing a speech. Presently, presidents have speech writers do it for them.

That's correct but still he should review it before and if he finds any error, he can correct it himself. Maybe he didn't realize that mistake. Nobody is perfect.

caz12 · 05-30-2012, 09:48 AM

he have another cock up by then.He obviously not reading his speech's properly,that a worry, men women dying in the name of usa,uk etc so it behove him to read things properly as buck do stop with him

CrazyPaul · 05-30-2012, 09:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jiro

oh? you want him to apologize to Poles.... and yet you chastised him for bowing too low or apologizing to world.

oh my....

Fact or bullshit?

I guess you know Koko very well.

Barbaro · 05-30-2012, 09:59 AM

I am having flashbacks of JFK saying Ich bin ein Berliner. Shoot, I can't eat berliner.

**Foxrac** · 05-30-2012, 10:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jiro

oh? you want him to apologize to Poles.... and yet you chastised him for bowing too low or apologizing to world.

oh my....

I don't think it will affect his reelection.

Kokonut is just nut.

Frisky Feline · 05-30-2012, 10:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jiro

oh? you want him to apologize to Poles.... and yet you chastised him for bowing too low or apologizing to world.

oh my....

meow!

kokonut · 05-30-2012, 07:14 PM

Personal accountability is one thing. Groveling is another.

kokonut · 05-30-2012, 07:42 PM

Shrugs off apology demand.

White House shrugs off Polish apology demands - Yahoo! News Canada

CrazyPaul · 05-30-2012, 08:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kokonut

Shrugs off apology demand.

White House shrugs off Polish apology demands - Yahoo! News Canada

quote:
"Poland's Prime Minister Donald Tusk said Obama's words had hurt all Poles and he expected more from Washington than just regret."

What more does the Polish want? MONEY?

To me, it's no big deal. REALLY! It was not meant to insult them. RIDICULOUS! They need to grow up.

kokonut · 05-30-2012, 08:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CrazyPaul

quote:
"Poland's Prime Minister Donald Tusk said Obama's words had hurt all Poles and he expected more from Washington than just regret."

What more does the Polish want? MONEY?

To me, it's no big deal. REALLY! It was not meant to insult them. RIDICULOUS! They need to grow up.

Not about money. It's about Obama's faux pas because these death camps were Nazi death camps in Poland. The German Nazis invaded Poland and killed nearly 6 million Polish citizens. The key thing on why Obama should apologize for his error is this:

Quote:

Poland's government keenly watches the global media for descriptions of former Nazi German death camps as "Polish" because it says the term -- even if used simply as a geographical indicator -- can give the impression that Poland bore responsibility for Nazi Germany's World War II genocide.

It was the German Nazis who bore responsibility for the death camps in Poland, not the country Poland itself. When it comes to refusing to own up and be accountable for his own mistakes Obama is the perfect person.

CrazyPaul · 05-30-2012, 09:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kokonut

Not about money. It's about Obama's faux pas because these death camps were Nazi death camps in Poland. The German Nazis invaded Poland and killed nearly 6 million Polish citizens. The key thing on why Obama should apologize for his error is this:

It was the German Nazis who bore responsibility for the death camps in Poland, not the country Poland itself. When it comes to refusing to own up and be accountable for his own mistakes Obama is the perfect person.

So you think that his apology should be enough. The Polish doesn't. What's up with that?

Barbaro · 05-30-2012, 10:42 PM

Let's not forget that Poland and Obama have a cold relationship. It is not the first time Poland felt insulted by Obama. Remember, Obama chose to not attend the funeral of the Polish President Lech Kaczynski, because his plane wasn't safe to fly due to volcanic ash. He played golf on that day. French President and German President could not attend due to volcanic ash. Other country leaders made the efforts by taking cars and trains to attend the funeral. And, remember he had changed his mind about the Missile Defense? It may be difficult to earn Poland's trust again.

kokonut · 05-30-2012, 10:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CrazyPaul

So you think that his apology should be enough. The Polish doesn't. What's up with that?

That's what the Prime Minister of Poland is asking. Also, the President of Poland did send Obama a letter about that, too. A simple apology. Something that he needs to own up and be a man, sometimes.

rockin'robin · 05-30-2012, 10:44 PM

Just saw on the news....they aren't buying his "so called" apology.....

CrazyPaul · 05-30-2012, 11:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kokonut

That's what the Prime Minister of Poland is asking. Also, the President of Poland did send Obama a letter about that, too. A simple apology. Something that he needs to own up and be a man, sometimes.

Ok, he must apologize ASAP to get over with it. Right?

kokonut · 05-30-2012, 11:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CrazyPaul

Ok, he must apologize ASAP to get over with it. Right?

No, not to just get over it but rather a sincere apology acknowledging his own mistake.

CrazyPaul · 05-30-2012, 11:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kokonut

No, not to just get over it but rather a sincere apology acknowledging his own mistake.

That's what I mean. Also to solve an issue.

**Jiro** · 05-30-2012, 11:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kokonut

No, not to just get over it but rather a sincere apology acknowledging his own mistake.

sincere apology? hmmm what would it sincere enough for you? by bowing lower?

CrazyPaul · 05-31-2012, 08:05 AM

I suggest the President to apologize for his mistake like "I am really very sorry for the misstatement I made. I **** up sometimes so I am not perfect. I can't believe that I am actually the President of the U.S. Thank you".

rolling7 · 05-31-2012, 08:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CrazyPaul

I suggest the President to apologize for his mistake like "I am really very sorry for the misstatement I made. I **** up sometimes so I am not perfect. I can't believe that I am actually the President of the U.S. Thank you".

Seconded

CrazyPaul · 05-31-2012, 08:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rolling7

Seconded

Simple and honest, right?

05-30-2012, 09:05 AM	#2 (permalink)
LoveBlue Registered User Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 3,351	Makes you wonder if he even reads what his speech writers write before he reads it to the public. airportcop likes this. __________________ Severe-to-profound hearing loss in both ears. SD @ 100db L-88% / R-96% - unaided Phonak Naida IX UPs

05-30-2012, 09:10 AM	#3 (permalink)
kokonut Registered User Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 15,348	I wonder how long it'll be until he apologizes? I wonder what are the odds he'll blame somebody else for his mistake? __________________ Before AD. After AD. "Restriction on free thought and free speech is the most dangerous of all subversions. It is the one un-American act that could most easily defeat us." -Thurgood Marshall, former Supreme Court Justice "... turns out they are telling the truth."

05-30-2012, 09:20 AM	#4 (permalink)
Barbaro Registered User Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: dæləs Posts: 1,308	I read it from Daily Mail UK. Well, he has misspoken that angered Poles. I can understand what Poles feel. Very sensitive topic. Obama just was referring to a death camp in Poland. Remember, Poland was under German occupation at the time. __________________ We know what we are but not what we may be. -Author:Shakespeare

05-30-2012, 09:42 AM	#8 (permalink)
Barbaro Registered User Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: dæləs Posts: 1,308	We shall see what happen next few days. I doubt it was Obama himself writing a speech. Presently, presidents have speech writers do it for them. __________________ We know what we are but not what we may be. -Author:Shakespeare

05-30-2012, 09:59 AM	#13 (permalink)
Barbaro Registered User Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: dæləs Posts: 1,308	I am having flashbacks of JFK saying Ich bin ein Berliner. Shoot, I can't eat berliner. __________________ We know what we are but not what we may be. -Author:Shakespeare

Today
Deafness	Sponsored Links __________________ This advertising will not be shown in this way to registered members. Register your free account today and become a member on AllDeaf.com

05-30-2012, 09:29 AM	#6 (permalink)
caz12 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 2,806	your president do makes some cock ups

05-30-2012, 09:32 AM	#7 (permalink)
CrazyPaul Registered User Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 2,968	Uh-oh, nobody is perfect. I am sure he will apologize soon because it's his fault that he did not review the speech or if he did, he didn't change it. Everybody makes mistakes. It will go away within 3-5 days.

05-30-2012, 09:48 AM	#11 (permalink)
caz12 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 2,806	he have another cock up by then.He obviously not reading his speech's properly,that a worry, men women dying in the name of usa,uk etc so it behove him to read things properly as buck do stop with him

05-30-2012, 07:14 PM	#16 (permalink)
kokonut Registered User Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 15,348	Personal accountability is one thing. Groveling is another. airportcop likes this. __________________ Before AD. After AD. "Restriction on free thought and free speech is the most dangerous of all subversions. It is the one un-American act that could most easily defeat us." -Thurgood Marshall, former Supreme Court Justice "... turns out they are telling the truth."

05-30-2012, 07:42 PM	#17 (permalink)
kokonut Registered User Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 15,348	Shrugs off apology demand. White House shrugs off Polish apology demands - Yahoo! News Canada __________________ Before AD. After AD. "Restriction on free thought and free speech is the most dangerous of all subversions. It is the one un-American act that could most easily defeat us." -Thurgood Marshall, former Supreme Court Justice "... turns out they are telling the truth."

05-30-2012, 10:42 PM	#21 (permalink)
Barbaro Registered User Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: dæləs Posts: 1,308	Let's not forget that Poland and Obama have a cold relationship. It is not the first time Poland felt insulted by Obama. Remember, Obama chose to not attend the funeral of the Polish President Lech Kaczynski, because his plane wasn't safe to fly due to volcanic ash. He played golf on that day. French President and German President could not attend due to volcanic ash. Other country leaders made the efforts by taking cars and trains to attend the funeral. And, remember he had changed his mind about the Missile Defense? It may be difficult to earn Poland's trust again. airportcop likes this. __________________ We know what we are but not what we may be. -Author:Shakespeare

05-30-2012, 10:44 PM	#23 (permalink)
rockin'robin Registered User Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Jacksonville, Florida Posts: 15,263	Just saw on the news....they aren't buying his "so called" apology.....

05-31-2012, 08:05 AM	#28 (permalink)
CrazyPaul Registered User Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 2,968	I suggest the President to apologize for his mistake like "I am really very sorry for the misstatement I made. I **** up sometimes so I am not perfect. I can't believe that I am actually the President of the U.S. Thank you".

Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Email this Page
Display Modes
Linear Mode Switch to Hybrid Mode Switch to Threaded Mode