Incompetence to call it as a "Polish death camp" - Page 2

rolling7 · 05-31-2012, 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by CrazyPaul

Simple and honest, right?

Yes, simple and honest. I'm with you.

**Foxrac** · 05-31-2012, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Barbaro

Let's not forget that Poland and Obama have a cold relationship. It is not the first time Poland felt insulted by Obama. Remember, Obama chose to not attend the funeral of the Polish President Lech Kaczynski, because his plane wasn't safe to fly due to volcanic ash. He played golf on that day. French President and German President could not attend due to volcanic ash. Other country leaders made the efforts by taking cars and trains to attend the funeral. And, remember he had changed his mind about the Missile Defense? It may be difficult to earn Poland's trust again.

In bold, we had to stopped due to heavy criticism from Russia and we don't want break the diplomatic relation with Russia because of deploy the missile defense in Poland.

I think that diplomatic relation with Russia is more important than Poland.

**TXgolfer** · 05-31-2012, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Foxrac

In bold, we had to stopped due to heavy criticism from Russia and we don't want break the relation with Russia because of deploy the missile defense in Poland.

I think that relation with Russia is more important than Poland.

We have relations with Russia?

**Foxrac** · 05-31-2012, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by TXgolfer

We have relations with Russia?

I means - diplomatic relation.

I didn't find these spelling until recently.

**TXgolfer** · 05-31-2012, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Foxrac

I means - diplomatic relation.

I didn't find these spelling until recently.

We have diplomatic relations with Russia?

**Foxrac** · 05-31-2012, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by TXgolfer

We have diplomatic relations with Russia?

Yup for 200 years.
200th Anniversary of U.S.-Russia Diplomatic Relations - Bicentennial Partnerships: Education and People-to-People Connections

We have embassy in Moscow and Russia has embassy in DC.

**TXgolfer** · 05-31-2012, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Foxrac

Yup for 200 years.
200th Anniversary of U.S.-Russia Diplomatic Relations - Bicentennial Partnerships: Education and People-to-People Connections

We have embassy in Moscow and Russia has embassy in DC.

You took that a little too literally.

**Foxrac** · 05-31-2012, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by TXgolfer

You took that a little too literally.

Why are you funny?

I'm not playing with you and I said US has diplomatic relation with Russia - that's fact.

Barbaro · 05-31-2012, 04:51 PM

U.S. Embassy is in Russia doesn't mean they have "good" diplomatic relationship. Ever hear the saying, "keep your friends close, but your enemies closer?" My father is a former high security level diplomat.

Russia and Poland were at war several times before the beginning of the 20th century. East Prussians have hatred for Stalin far more than Hitler, because Stalin had taken their land and Prussian identity away. East Europeans have very cold relationships with Russia for a thousand year to this day.

**saywhatkid** · 06-01-2012, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Jiro

sincere apology? hmmm what would it sincere enough for you? by bowing lower?

That would be groveling. He either does not apologize enough, or he grovels. There is no middle ground here. Certainly you know the rules by now.

**Foxrac** · 06-01-2012, 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Barbaro

U.S. Embassy is in Russia doesn't mean they have "good" diplomatic relationship. Ever hear the saying, "keep your friends close, but your enemies closer?" My father is a former high security level diplomat.

Russia and Poland were at war several times before the beginning of the 20th century. East Prussians have hatred for Stalin far more than Hitler, because Stalin had taken their land and Prussian identity away. East Europeans have very cold relationships with Russia for a thousand year to this day.

You misunderstood my post, I don't say Russia and US have good diplomatic relationship, just simply diplomatic relationship, that it.

Having diplomatic relationship don't need be very friendly and they can disagree on issues while maintain diplomatic relationship.

Barbaro · 06-01-2012, 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Foxrac

You misunderstood my post, I don't say Russia and US have good diplomatic relationship, just simply diplomatic relationship, that it.

Having diplomatic relationship don't need be very friendly and they can disagree on issues while maintain diplomatic relationship.

Gotcha, I am with you. Why do you think the diplomatic relationship between US and Russia is far more important than Poland?

**Foxrac** · 06-01-2012, 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Barbaro

Gotcha, I am with you. Why do you think the diplomatic relationship between US and Russia is far more important than Poland?

because of oil, space program, investment and other deals.

I think Obama should apology to Poland for misname, just like I did to TXGolfer last night for rude comment.

kokonut · 06-01-2012, 08:00 PM

Um, folks, it's up to the president of Poland to decide if his apology is enough. That's pretty clear. After all it was the Prime Minister who brought it up the demand for an apology.

Barbaro · 06-01-2012, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Foxrac

because of oil, space program, investment and other deals.

I think Obama should apology to Poland for misname, just like I did to TXGolfer last night for rude comment.

White House press secretary had told the media that Obama had misspoken, and "regret the misstatement." Poland is not satisfied with it, because White House press secretary issued it, instead of Obama hasn't shown himself and say he will regret it. I have no idea if Obama has called them directly on the phone to tell them he was sorry or not. If so, White House press secretary should mention it.

CrazyPaul · 06-01-2012, 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Barbaro

White House press secretary had told the media that Obama had misspoken, and "regret the misstatement." Poland is not satisfied with it, because White House press secretary issued it, instead of Obama hasn't shown himself and say he will regret it. I have no idea if Obama has called them directly on the phone to tell them he was sorry or not. If so, White House press secretary should mention it.

That's right. That's what it's all about. Poland doesn't accept a regret from his spokesperson. They demand that Obama delivers his apology himself.

airportcop · 06-02-2012, 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by LoveBlue

Makes you wonder if he even reads what his speech writers write before he reads it to the public.

He is so vain and full of himself that I seriously doubt it! All this coming from a guy who has his barber flown in to DC 2 times each month for a trim!

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Barbaro Registered User Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: dæləs Posts: 1,308	U.S. Embassy is in Russia doesn't mean they have "good" diplomatic relationship. Ever hear the saying, "keep your friends close, but your enemies closer?" My father is a former high security level diplomat. Russia and Poland were at war several times before the beginning of the 20th century. East Prussians have hatred for Stalin far more than Hitler, because Stalin had taken their land and Prussian identity away. East Europeans have very cold relationships with Russia for a thousand year to this day. __________________ We know what we are but not what we may be. -Author:Shakespeare

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kokonut Registered User Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 15,348	Um, folks, it's up to the president of Poland to decide if his apology is enough. That's pretty clear. After all it was the Prime Minister who brought it up the demand for an apology. __________________ Before AD. After AD. "Restriction on free thought and free speech is the most dangerous of all subversions. It is the one un-American act that could most easily defeat us." -Thurgood Marshall, former Supreme Court Justice "... turns out they are telling the truth."

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