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**Jiro** · 05-25-2012, 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by deafironchef

i have heard about them that they handle the kids , However to some people that feel they are unworthy to be call parent ( mother and father ) in the moral life they need the father and the mother . mother which give compassion and kindness and the father which tough them up and have fun where father can be role play on their kids about the future life . if it is mother and mother , the missing of moral is father where which they can be queer for boy. If father and father work with kids , boy will be toughest male without compassion and can lead them abuse on women for not be male and can cause women to be Tommy Girl. Also who know that wreck with our economic issues. For me , i have saw women's cousin which they are lesbian but do they handle them well ? From not what i see . The moral life need balance

thank you.

false. most homosexual parents with kids are more stable than heterosexual parents because of very low divorce rate.

**Jiro** · 05-25-2012, 12:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Reba

Have you seen blatant discrimination happening in your presence?

yes. right here in AD.

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Originally Posted by Reba

If so, what did you do?

standing up for them and speaking out.

**Foxrac** · 05-25-2012, 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by deafironchef

i have heard about them that they handle the kids , However to some people that feel they are unworthy to be call parent ( mother and father ) in the moral life they need the father and the mother . mother which give compassion and kindness and the father which tough them up and have fun where father can be role play on their kids about the future life . if it is mother and mother , the missing of moral is father where which they can be queer for boy. If father and father work with kids , boy will be toughest male without compassion and can lead them abuse on women for not be male and can cause women to be Tommy Girl. Also who know that wreck with our economic issues. For me , i have saw women's cousin which they are lesbian but do they handle them well ? From not what i see . The moral life need balance

thank you.

I smell your claim is fishy and fool.

I agree with Jiro about most homosexual couples raised their kids in stable condition. I met them in LA, SF, Chicago, Atlanta and DC.

Sex orientation isn't choice, period.

**Foxrac** · 05-25-2012, 12:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Jiro

false. most homosexual parents with kids are more stable than heterosexual parents because of very low divorce rate.

Yup, even married atheists have lowest divorce rate too.
Atheism & Divorce: Divorce Rates for Atheists are Among the Lowest in America - Why Do Conservative Christian Defenders of Marriage Get Divorced Most?

airportcop · 05-25-2012, 06:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Jiro

I'm not proposing for end of government control. we need government control otherwise these religious nuts would destroy this country with bigotry in the name of holy war like how they destroyed the civilizations in the past.

last time I recall... the government (for the people, by the people) still controls this country... not church. the day church rises up to sieze control of this country is the day of XIII

Not exactly! When a society steps away from God and turns it's back on Him that is when that society fails and is destroyed. Proven time & time again. Look at Rome.

airportcop · 05-25-2012, 06:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Reba

The Secular Case Against Gay Marriage - The Tech

Good article!

airportcop · 05-25-2012, 06:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Reba

A Secular Case Against Gay Marriage? · Secular Right

Another good read!

airportcop · 05-25-2012, 06:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Reba

A secular case against gay marriage « Wintery Knight

Reba,

Thanks for sharing these articles. I think that they provide good insight and information.

airportcop · 05-25-2012, 07:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Reba

Liberal Democrat author; no mention of Bible or God or Christianity.

Protecting marriage to protect children - latimes.com

Wow! Another good view on keeping the marriage an institution that it always has been and always should be. A healthy view as well that benefits our society.

airportcop · 05-25-2012, 07:04 AM

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Not just American atheists:

"So color me surprised when it comes to Australia's new Prime Minister, Julia Gillard. She's an atheist. She also lives with a man she's not married to. But she doesn't like gay marriage. In fact, she's made it crystal clear that as long as she's Prime Minister of Australia, gays and lesbians will never see the wedding aisle."
Atheists Against Gay Marriage? | Change.org News

This is where I see a problem. The gay and liberal view is stated here and what I really dislike is all the name calling and finger pointing. That is not in all of the other articles. Hate and bigotry go both ways!

airportcop · 05-25-2012, 07:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Jiro

how is it your business?

Well, because I am an American citizen, born and raised here and it is my right to speak and to vote!

airportcop · 05-25-2012, 07:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Jiro

in case you didn't know... whether or not of government redefines marriage law... the law prohibits discrimination based on sex, race, color, religion, national origin, familial status, and disability. and it has been like this for a long time.

Yes, sex as in male & female! Not by sexual orientation necessarily though. I am against gay bashing and there is a law that protects gays in this fashion.

airportcop · 05-25-2012, 07:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Jiro

incorrect.

What???? Where do you get that idea????

airportcop · 05-25-2012, 07:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Jiro

false. most homosexual parents with kids are more stable than heterosexual parents because of very low divorce rate.

Do you have any stats or facts to back that up?

rolling7 · 05-25-2012, 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by airportcop

Do you have any stats or facts to back that up?

He has none. Here is why.

Parents = to persons that reproduce a child together

therefore

two men together can NOT reproduce a child together and can NOT be parents

two women together can NOT reproduce a child together and can NOT be parents

GAOY: adoptive parent = adoptive parent....NOT real parent

Frisky Feline · 05-25-2012, 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Jiro

false. most homosexual parents with kids are more stable than heterosexual parents because of very low divorce rate.

I have a few close friends who are gay and have two or three children of their own and doing awesome. indeed I know many gay couples who have children and many children. I am very very happy about it.

Frisky Feline · 05-25-2012, 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Foxrac

Yup, even married atheists have lowest divorce rate too.
Atheism & Divorce: Divorce Rates for Atheists are Among the Lowest in America - Why Do Conservative Christian Defenders of Marriage Get Divorced Most?

Interesting. ha

Frisky Feline · 05-25-2012, 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by rolling7

He has none. Here is why.

Parents = to persons that reproduce a child together

therefore

two men together can NOT reproduce a child together and can NOT be parents

two women together can NOT reproduce a child together and can NOT be parents

GAOY: adoptive parent = adoptive parent....NOT real parent

there are many ways of having kids. you silly! again, gay people are REAL PARENTS.

**Jiro** · 05-25-2012, 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by airportcop

Not exactly! When a society steps away from God and turns it's back on Him that is when that society fails and is destroyed. Proven time & time again. Look at Rome.

we are not Rome. we do not have Caesar. we do not have Emperor. we do not have dictatorship.

Frisky Feline · 05-25-2012, 09:23 AM

Being a FagHag rocks! LOL

**Jiro** · 05-25-2012, 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by rolling7

He has none. Here is why.

Parents = to persons that reproduce a child together

therefore

two men together can NOT reproduce a child together and can NOT be parents

two women together can NOT reproduce a child together and can NOT be parents

GAOY: adoptive parent = adoptive parent....NOT real parent

really? I have none?

Children thrive equally with same-sex, heterosexual parents, psychologist testifies at Prop. 8 trial - latimes.com

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A Cambridge University developmental psychologist testified at a federal trial in San Francisco today that broad research has documented that children of same-sex parents are just as likely as those of heterosexual parents to be well-adjusted.

"Studies have found children do not require both a male and female parent," testified Michael Lamb, who heads Cambridge's Department of Social and Developmental Psychology.

Why Gay Parents May Be the Best Parents | Gays, Lesbians & Same-Sex Marriage | Advantages of Gay Parenting & Gay Adoption | LiveScience

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On Jan. 6, Republican presidential hopeful Rick Santorum told a New Hampshire audience that children are better off with a father in prison than being raised in a home with lesbian parents and no father at all. And last Monday (Jan. 9), Pope Benedict called gay marriage a threat "to the future of humanity itself," citing the need for children to have heterosexual homes.

But research on families headed by gays and lesbians doesn't back up these dire assertions. In fact, in some ways, gay parents may bring talents to the table that straight parents don't.

Gay parents "tend to be more motivated, more committed than heterosexual parents on average, because they chose to be parents," said Abbie Goldberg, a psychologist at Clark University in Massachusetts who researches gay and lesbian parenting. Gays and lesbians rarely become parents by accident, compared with an almost 50 percent accidental pregnancy rate among heterosexuals, Goldberg said. "That translates to greater commitment on average and more involvement."

And while research indicates that kids of gay parents show few differences in achievement, mental health, social functioning and other measures, these kids may have the advantage of open-mindedness, tolerance and role models for equitable relationships, according to some research. Not only that, but gays and lesbians are likely to provide homes for difficult-to-place children in the foster system, studies show. (Of course, this isn't to say that heterosexual parents can't bring these same qualities to the parenting table.)

and more here - http://www.webmd.com/mental-health/n...-adjusted-kids

**Jiro** · 05-25-2012, 09:31 AM

what I'm reading in here is just plain dang awful. just awful. the amount of bigotry and ignorance is just outstanding. a stark reminder of our dark past.

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"Blacks are mentally inferior, by nature subservient, and cowards in the face of danger. They are therefore unfit for combat."

-1925 U.S. Army War College Study

and now this??? gay parents = unfit for parenting and society? wow...

**Jiro** · 05-25-2012, 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by airportcop

This is where I see a problem. The gay and liberal view is stated here and what I really dislike is all the name calling and finger pointing. That is not in all of the other articles. Hate and bigotry go both ways!

hate and bigotry go both way.... oh I see. either you have a sub-par intelligent or you're being funny today... I do not know.

soutthpaw · 05-25-2012, 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by rolling7

He has none. Here is why.

Parents = to persons that reproduce a child together

therefore

two men together can NOT reproduce a child together and can NOT be parents

two women together can NOT reproduce a child together and can NOT be parents

GAOY: adoptive parent = adoptive parent....NOT real parent

So based on your logic, straight couples that adopt a child are not real parents either?? you sir are an _____... besides do you know the cost and effort involved in adopting a child.. Adoptive parents are much better parents than the biological parents that gave the child up..

rolling7 · 05-25-2012, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by soutthpaw

So based on your logic, straight couples that adopt a child are not real parents either?? you sir are an _____... besides do you know the cost and effort involved in adopting a child.. Adoptive parents are much better parents than the biological parents that gave the child up..

Adoptive parents = Adoptive parents.....not BIRTH parents.

A child raised within the proper environment of human nature is the ONLY way to satisfy Mother Nature. If that makes me "an ..........", so be it.

rolling7 · 05-25-2012, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Frisky Feline

there are many ways of having kids. you silly! again, gay people are REAL PARENTS.

Yes, there are many ways that mankind had come up with BUT only one way Mother Nature made it possible.

rolling7 · 05-25-2012, 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Jiro

what I'm reading in here is just plain dang awful. just awful. the amount of bigotry and ignorance is just outstanding. a stark reminder of our dark past.

and now this??? gay parents = unfit for parenting and society? wow...

Try putting your words in someone else mouth because I'm certainly not allowing you to come within a inch of my mouth.

rolling7 · 05-25-2012, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Jiro

really? I have none?

Children thrive equally with same-sex, heterosexual parents, psychologist testifies at Prop. 8 trial - latimes.com

Why Gay Parents May Be the Best Parents | Gays, Lesbians & Same-Sex Marriage | Advantages of Gay Parenting & Gay Adoption | LiveScience

and more here - Study: Same-Sex Parents Raise Well-Adjusted Kids

Of course you could not look up Mother Nature and use her as a source.

deafironchef · 05-25-2012, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by rolling7

He has none. Here is why.

Parents = to persons that reproduce a child together

therefore

two men together can NOT reproduce a child together and can NOT be parents

two women together can NOT reproduce a child together and can NOT be parents

GAY: adoptive parent = adoptive parent....NOT real parent

that clear point

deafironchef · 05-25-2012, 10:54 AM

you have point there jiro , however , it the problem that that child or children will have the hell of life . here it is , some children do not accept them as social life as they have normal life. when kids knew they have gay or lesbian , from what i see it can lead bully or make fun of them . i found this website almost same as you jiro. He had two point , one of your point and other point of impact of community with that issues ( why Gay Parent should not raise children)

i like his view but he has more detail of why they should not ........

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deafironchef Registered User Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Texas Austin Posts: 478	you have point there jiro , however , it the problem that that child or children will have the hell of life . here it is , some children do not accept them as social life as they have normal life. when kids knew they have gay or lesbian , from what i see it can lead bully or make fun of them . i found this website almost same as you jiro. He had two point , one of your point and other point of impact of community with that issues ( why Gay Parent should not raise children) i like his view but he has more detail of why they should not ........ airportcop likes this.

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