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Unread 05-24-2012, 04:39 PM   #121 (permalink)
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common sense......
Common sense tells me that that's not a real "law."

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discrimination law.
There is no such law called "discrimination law." There are laws that pertain to employment, education, voting, public facilities, interstate commerce, etc. Each one is different. There is no umbrella "discrimination law."
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Unread 05-24-2012, 04:41 PM   #122 (permalink)
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victims.
Victims of what? You are so vague.


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bigots. ignorants. etc.
You're not answering my questions. What on earth are you referring to? The victims of what? By whom?
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Let me try again. Maybe my questions weren't clear.

"Originally Posted by Jiro
well I'm sorry to hear that. I guess you're not going to stand up for people who get humiliated in public by ignorant bigots."


Who are the people who are being humiliated in public? How are they being humiliated?

Who are the "ignorant bigots" committing this humiliation?

Are you referring to some other post?
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The Skeletal Reaper Horseman
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Unread 05-24-2012, 04:54 PM   #125 (permalink)
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I need set the time machine to make back to London, England in 1200.

Yup, the homosexuality is illegal and punished by death.

There was public hanging on street of London and there was guard that enforce the biblical law so you will be tortured for being too unnatural.

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Common sense tells me that that's not a real "law."


There is no such law called "discrimination law." There are laws that pertain to employment, education, voting, public facilities, interstate commerce, etc. Each one is different. There is no umbrella "discrimination law."
each one is different? you mean like... this place is allowed to discriminate against homosexual people and that place is allowed to discriminate against Islamic people?
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Victims of what? You are so vague.

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You're not answering my questions. What on earth are you referring to? The victims of what? By whom?
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Let me try again. Maybe my questions weren't clear.

"Originally Posted by Jiro
well I'm sorry to hear that. I guess you're not going to stand up for people who get humiliated in public by ignorant bigots."


Who are the people who are being humiliated in public? How are they being humiliated?

Who are the "ignorant bigots" committing this humiliation?

Are you referring to some other post?
vague? I thought my answer was clear. I guess I'll have to spell it out then. Victims of bigotry and ignorance.... such as... discrimination based on sex, race, color, religion, national origin, familial status, or disability.

If you see a store owner refusing a service to Muslim customers and he's yelling at them to get out and go back to where they're from... would you speak out?

If you see a jerk taunting and bothering homosexual couples... would you speak out?

That's what I was getting at.
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hawaii? if it were in hawaii, why should i be inside the house while out there the beautiufl ocean is there. i dont drink coke zero. i drink regular coke.
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hawaii? if it were in hawaii, why should i be inside the house while out there the beautiufl ocean is there. i dont drink coke zero. i drink regular coke.


let us swim at blue ocean and let him watch The Blue Lagoon
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That's easy....end government sanctioned marriage.
Now you want to Furk with my marriage? do you know how many people are married by a Justice of the peace rather that a clergy member?
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Now you want to Furk with my marriage? do you know how many people are married by a Justice of the peace rather that a clergy member?
Point?
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hawaii? if it were in hawaii, why should i be inside the house while out there the beautiufl ocean is there. i dont drink coke zero. i drink regular coke.
I'm back in dreary ol California now.
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Watch out for the rip currents. Lot's of lava in Kona.
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each one is different? you mean like... this place is allowed to discriminate against homosexual people and that place is allowed to discriminate against Islamic people?
No, I mean each category of anti-discrimination law is different.

One law doesn't cover every aspect of possible discrimination. The types of discrimination are different, the penalties are different, the enforcement jurisdictions are different, etc.

For example, compare the wording of laws pertaining to fair housing, equal opportunity employment, school segregation, voting rights, and ADA. You'll see a big variety.

It all depends on the individual law and what it covers.
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Unread 05-24-2012, 08:59 PM   #135 (permalink)
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vague? I thought my answer was clear. I guess I'll have to spell it out then. Victims of bigotry and ignorance.... such as... discrimination based on sex, race, color, religion, national origin, familial status, or disability.

If you see a store owner refusing a service to Muslim customers and he's yelling at them to get out and go back to where they're from... would you speak out?

If you see a jerk taunting and bothering homosexual couples... would you speak out?

That's what I was getting at.
I hope that I would speak up. I haven't yet seen those things happen in my presence.

Truthfully, most discrimination that happens in the USA today is not that blatant. It's the discrimination that happens in corporate board rooms, lending offices, school boards, hiring decisions, news director meetings, etc., that is more prevalent and harder to dig out.

I have done my share of advocating for the underdog in situations, and I've taken my lumps for that action at times.

Have you seen blatant discrimination happening in your presence? If so, what did you do?
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hawaii? if it were in hawaii, why should i be inside the house while out there the beautiufl ocean is there. i dont drink coke zero. i drink regular coke.
Oh my... I HATE COKE ZERO!!!

Yup, I prefer regular Coke, however I love Sprite.
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He's just asking you if you want to destroy his marriage after take marriage away from government's hand.
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let us swim at blue ocean and let him watch The Blue Lagoon
lol, it is just old movie back in 1980.
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He's just asking you if you want to destroy his marriage after take marriage away from government's hand.
Yeah I know. I guess he feels it's not love unless it's licensed.
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Yeah I know. I guess he feels it's not love unless it's licensed.
Be careful... He is bigger than you and he is going to intimidating you until you give up to being Christian.



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It is none of your business to put your bogus belief in government's mouth and government represent everyone, not just only for anti-gay Christians as special treatment.

Legalize gay marriage isn't going affect your life so quit being whine about our government being gay friendly.
I have to tell that i have quite disagree with you , it is does infuse other people about this issues . it will cause public gay make out front of kids which it is really gross . If i see them in the public , i will report for it. if i see the opposite sex make out i will say get a room ..... this is really impact in our community ..


sorry to say but it is true
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I have must tell i am quite disagree with you , it does infuse other people about this issues . it will cause public gay make out front of kids which it really gross . If i see that i will report for it. if i see opposite sex make out i will say get a room ..... there is really impact in our community ..


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You do have a point there!
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I have must tell i am quite disagree with you , it does infuse other people about this issues . it will cause public gay make out front of kids which it really gross . If i see that i will report for it. if i see opposite sex make out i will say get a room ..... there is really impact in our community ..


sorry to say but it true
Homosexuality isn't illegal but gay marriage is banned in 30+ states.

You don't know about relation between homosexual families and kids so I met them so numerous time and they got excellent experience.

Lastly, I just explained to airportcop about being fair and I just let him to disagree whatever he wants, even he could tell government about everything that he wants. That's effectively end the debate between me and him.
Black pastors bash NAACP for endorsing gay marriage
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You do have a point there!
What? You told me that you don't have problem and doesn't care, even you stated about it is none of business with marriage.

Now, you are mixed up.
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I am not bring religious issues but i am bring to whole community viewpoint of this ...
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I'm not discussing about religious issues in my post.

I just try to point about homosexuality is legal, not illegal.

You don't see about relation between same sex couples and their kids so you don't have any experience about them.
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I have to tell that i have quite disagree with you , it is does infuse other people about this issues . it will cause public gay make out front of kids which it is really gross . If i see them in the public , i will report for it. if i see the opposite sex make out i will say get a room ..... this is really impact in our community ..


sorry to say but it is true
report them for what?

You have a problem with "Public Display Affection" and that's ok but there's nothing illegal about it.
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i have heard about them that they handle the kids , However to some people that feel they are unworthy to be call parent ( mother and father ) in the moral life they need the father and the mother . mother which give compassion and kindness and the father which tough them up and have fun where father can be role play on their kids about the future life . if it is mother and mother , the missing of moral is father where which they can be queer for boy. If father and father work with kids , boy will be toughest male without compassion and can lead them abuse on women for not be male and can cause women to be Tommy Girl. Also who know that wreck with our economic issues. For me , i have saw women's cousin which they are lesbian but do they handle them well ? From not what i see . The moral life need balance

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No, I mean each category of anti-discrimination law is different.

One law doesn't cover every aspect of possible discrimination. The types of discrimination are different, the penalties are different, the enforcement jurisdictions are different, etc.

For example, compare the wording of laws pertaining to fair housing, equal opportunity employment, school segregation, voting rights, and ADA. You'll see a big variety.

It all depends on the individual law and what it covers.
let's see....

Fair Housing
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To create equal housing opportunities for all persons living in America by administering laws that prohibit discrimination in housing on the basis of race,color, religion, sex, national origin, disability, and familial status.
Equal Opportunity Employment
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The U.S. Equal Employment Opportunity Commission (EEOC) is responsible for enforcing federal laws that make it illegal to discriminate against a job applicant or an employee because of the person's race, color, religion, sex (including pregnancy), national origin, age (40 or older), disability or genetic information.
Civil Service Reform Act of 1978 (CSRA)
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and bunch more with very similar language. I dont see a big variety.
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