Oy! Teacher Tells Student He Could Be Arrested for Talking Badly About Obama - Page 4

kokonut · 05-23-2012, 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by TXgolfer

Oh you know this. It's not 100% accurate but you can often tell race by voice. You can also tell what region someone is from by voice. Even Harry Reid has mentioned this dialect a time or 2. No big deal really

Yes, which is why I said it's a pretty safe bet the woman is black just by listening to her voice on YouTube. A bet that I'm likely to win.

kokonut · 05-24-2012, 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by kokonut

Yes, which is why I said it's a pretty safe bet the woman is black just by listening to her voice on YouTube. A bet that I'm likely to win.

Hmm, her name is Tonya Dixon-Neely.

N.C. teacher suspended after telling student not to slander president | CharlotteObserver.com & The Charlotte Observer Newspaper

Looks like I'm right.

CrazyPaul · 05-24-2012, 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by kokonut

Hmm, her name is Tonya Dixon-Neely.

N.C. teacher suspended after telling student not to slander president | CharlotteObserver.com & The Charlotte Observer Newspaper

Looks like I'm right.

Obviously she's a control freak. She expected to get what she wanted but she got busted. Grayma said it all. The teacher was not professional. She gave bad attitude as well. She's not supposed to teach at school. Now we know her name so hopefully she will not be able to teach anymore.

**Reba** · 05-24-2012, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by kokonut

Well, ask those who can hear that audio on YouTube and ask them. Like I said, I think it's a pretty safe bet that the voice was a black woman heard in the background based on the way she sounded and talked. The voice comes in pretty clear around the 3:12 mark about not to disrespect the president. She has a southern accent alright but the dialect is distinctively black. There is no class to teach this. One just need to listen and know the difference. Again, ask someone who can hear and listen starting at the 3:12 mark for about a minute. Heck, have Reba or anybody else in AD listen to it.

Here's the link for your convenience:
Teacher yells at student because of a question he asked about Obama! - YouTube!

First, let me say that not everyone who "sounds black" is black, and not every black person "sounds black." However there are vocalizations that are common in black American dialect, and the woman speaking/yelling on the recording seems to have those. So I would say, yes, it sounds like a black woman speaking/yelling on the recording.

kokonut · 05-24-2012, 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Reba

First, let me say that not everyone who "sounds black" is black, and not every black person "sounds black." However there are vocalizations that are common in black American dialect, and the woman speaking/yelling on the recording seems to have those. So I would say, yes, it sounds like a black woman speaking/yelling on the recording.

Absolutely which is why I said that I thought it was a pretty safe bet that the woman talking is a black woman. A bet that I'm likely to win. And thank you for confirming that with me.

**Foxrac** · 05-24-2012, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Reba

First, let me say that not everyone who "sounds black" is black, and not every black person "sounds black." However there are vocalizations that are common in black American dialect, and the woman speaking/yelling on the recording seems to have those. So I would say, yes, it sounds like a black woman speaking/yelling on the recording.

I don't understand why people care about race colors.

JoeyDeafNinja · 05-24-2012, 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by CrazyPaul

Since I am not a Christian, I can't. Sorry.

Will Smith has said once. "People who uses bad language is not smart."

So, using bad language doesn't make you look smart or cool. Christian or not, it apply to everyone.

**TXgolfer** · 05-24-2012, 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by JoeyDeafNinja

Will Smith has said once. "People who uses bad language is not smart."

So, using bad language doesn't make you look smart or cool. Christian or not, it apply to everyone.

Will Smith also said "Gettin' jiggy with it"

Grayma · 05-24-2012, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Foxrac

I don't understand why people care about race colors.

I don't either, but Jiro is the one who brought up race.

**Jiro** · 05-24-2012, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Grayma

I don't either, but Jiro is the one who brought up race.

where exactly?

Babyblue · 05-24-2012, 01:33 PM

Wirelessly posted

Freedom of speech does not apply in school. Which is why dress codes are applied and other rules.

I agree the teacher went too far as yelling at the student and tell him he is going to be arrested. She let her anger get the best of her. Perhaps teaching is not a field she should stay in.

**TXgolfer** · 05-24-2012, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Jiro

where exactly?

Post 22

**Jiro** · 05-24-2012, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by TXgolfer

Post 22

that's it? there's a difference between "race card" and "ribbing"

Grayma · 05-24-2012, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by saywhatkid

As a guy that had normal hearing for 33 years, I missed the class where they taught us "sounds like a black person" dialect. Could you describe this for me? What are the cues?

REally? I find this hard to believe. It's not universal, just as not all people from the south sound precisely the same, and not all people from New Jersey sound precisely the same, and not all deaf accents sound precisely the same- but there are speech patterns that are generally shared by each of these groups and there is a particular speech pattern that is shared, in general, by the American black population.

It's not just the way they each pronounce certain words, but there's also a cadence, a rhythm to it. It's often very pleasant. The black poet Paul Lawrence Dunbar wrote some beautiful dialect poetry utilizing patterns and pronunciations representative of common black speech.

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For the poet of color, whose repository of language is often composed of multiple “englishes” (standard English being only one of them), the dialect poem can become a site of great experimentation–and great conflict. Best known in the American canon, at least in terms of dialect poetry, are the works of noted African Americans poets like Paul Laurence Dunbar and later, Langston Hughes with his jazz and blues poetry during the Harlem Renaissance. Dunbar, often considered to be the first African American poet of national eminence, is widely read both for his black vernacular and standard English verse. The marked differences in syntax, register, tone, and even subject matter that distinguish works like “We Wear the Mask” or “Ships That Pass in the Night” from ”When Malindy Sings” are fascinating to me, particularly because both “voices” are grounded, I think, in Dunbar’s understanding of himself as an English language/African American poet.

Editors’ Picks: The Art of Writing in Dialect | Lantern Review Blog

There's nothing wrong with recognizing something that black poets and song-writers themselves celebrate in their art.

Grayma · 05-24-2012, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Jiro

that's it? there's a difference between "race card" and "ribbing"

Who said anything about a race card? I said that you are the first one who brought up race, and you are. If that embarrasses you, maybe you shouldn't have brought it up.

**TXgolfer** · 05-24-2012, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Jiro

that's it? there's a difference between "race card" and "ribbing"

She didn't say "race card"......she said "race"

**Jiro** · 05-24-2012, 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Grayma

Who said anything about a race card? I said that you are the first one who brought up race, and you are. If that embarrasses you, maybe you shouldn't have brought it up.

in case you didn't know... CrazyPaul is known for his dislike toward black people because of their violent, uncivilized tendency.

**Jiro** · 05-24-2012, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by TXgolfer

She didn't say "race card"......she said "race"

and....?

I guess you're turning a blind eye on her insidious attempt to turn this into a finger-pointing race card.

***naisho*** · 05-24-2012, 01:54 PM

This is my thoughts why political issues are not always the best discussion to have in some situations.
Some folks can't control themselves from saying or doing something on the whim and can get emotionally involved in response.

It applies for any discussion, both in real life or online.

***naisho*** · 05-24-2012, 02:03 PM

The NC High school teacher in question:
http://www.thenationalpatriot.com/20...nded-with-pay/

The student:
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nati...icle-1.1082565

**Foxrac** · 05-24-2012, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Jiro

in case you didn't know... CrazyPaul is known for his dislike toward black people because of their violent, uncivilized tendency.

Yup, I'm notice about that too.

Frisky Feline · 05-24-2012, 02:13 PM

rockin'robin · 05-24-2012, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Jiro

in case you didn't know... CrazyPaul is known for his dislike toward black people because of their violent, uncivilized tendency.

Black people have a violent, uncivilized tendency??

**TXgolfer** · 05-24-2012, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Jiro

and....?

I guess you're turning a blind eye on her insidious attempt to turn this into a finger-pointing race card.

Race was not mentioned in this thread until you mentioned it....period.

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in case you didn't know... CrazyPaul is known for his dislike toward black people because of their violent, uncivilized tendency.

So you were trying to provoke him then? That's a violation of forum rules.

**Jiro** · 05-24-2012, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by TXgolfer

Race was not mentioned in this thread until you mentioned it....period.

So you were trying to provoke him then?

see Post #109.

It's appearing that you are engaging in trolling and enticing. If you look at my Post #22 - that was it. the end of it.... therefore nothing's happening. and now look at what you're doing. you're dragging this on.

tsk. shame that you're resorting to this farce. you see mine as provocation and you see yours as "ribbing" - Our Financial State of America

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Originally Posted by TXgolfer

That's a violation of forum rules.

I don't see

tag on you so why don't we leave this to mod to decide?

rockin'robin · 05-24-2012, 02:17 PM

Unbelievable about that link (the teacher and the student)....I hope they kick her azz back to the skid-row alley she came from!

**TXgolfer** · 05-24-2012, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Jiro

see Post #109.

It's appearing that you are engaging in trolling and enticing. If you look at my Post #22 - that was it. the end of it.... therefore nothing's happening. and now look at what you're doing. you're dragging this on.

tsk.

I don't see

tag on you so why don't we leave this to mod to decide?

Did you mean "enciting"? Anyway, the answer would be no. You asked the question....You brought race into the thread even if it was just one post. End of story.

Frisky Feline · 05-24-2012, 02:24 PM

crap, it needs more buttery and salty ..

**Jiro** · 05-24-2012, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by TXgolfer

Did you mean "enciting"?

No. Enticing.

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10.) No enticing or provoking other members to cause them to get into trouble.

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Originally Posted by TXgolfer

Anyway, the answer would be no. You asked the question....You brought race into the thread even if it was just one post. End of story.

like I said.... there's a difference between "race card" and "ribbing". I was "ribbing" CrazyPaul because he is known for his dislike toward black people for their violent, uncivilized tendency.

**TXgolfer** · 05-24-2012, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Jiro

No. Enticing.

like I said.... there's a difference between "race card" and "ribbing" as CrazyPaul is known for his dislike toward black people for their violent, uncivilized tendency.

No one said anything about the "race card" not sure why you continue with this....

05-24-2012, 01:33 PM	#101 (permalink)
Babyblue Registered User Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Florida Posts: 12,001	Wirelessly posted Freedom of speech does not apply in school. Which is why dress codes are applied and other rules. I agree the teacher went too far as yelling at the student and tell him he is going to be arrested. She let her anger get the best of her. Perhaps teaching is not a field she should stay in. Grayma likes this.

05-24-2012, 01:54 PM	#109 (permalink)
*naisho* Forum Disorders M.D.,Ph.D Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: 127.0.0.1 Posts: 6,162	This is my thoughts why political issues are not always the best discussion to have in some situations. Some folks can't control themselves from saying or doing something on the whim and can get emotionally involved in response. It applies for any discussion, both in real life or online. airportcop likes this.

05-24-2012, 02:17 PM	#116 (permalink)
rockin'robin Registered User Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Jacksonville, Florida Posts: 15,285	Unbelievable about that link (the teacher and the student)....I hope they kick her azz back to the skid-row alley she came from! TXgolfer likes this.

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*naisho* Forum Disorders M.D.,Ph.D Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: 127.0.0.1 Posts: 6,162	The NC High school teacher in question: http://www.thenationalpatriot.com/20...nded-with-pay/ The student: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nati...icle-1.1082565

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Frisky Feline Registered User Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 20,237	crap, it needs more buttery and salty ..